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Hi Lisa, It's good to have you here. I was also sent an amendment contract and did not sign it. I sent them a letter stating pretty much the same thing and got the "we grant you" speech. It used to be "Don't Take That Tone With US" and "You Will Apologize". For some reason they are taking a different Tone and it could be that we pointed that out so much on this board. My concerns are that they have some how amended my contract themselves without my knowledge because they act like I did sign it. They are suddenly "granting permission" as stated in contract. Bull Crap! I don't need their permission and if they have changed my contract then they are looking at a heavy lawsuit. Glad to see your spunk. You and I will get a long goodOriginally Posted by Lisa Maliga
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Little Missy, I'm glad to see your feeling better. I missed you yesterday! I didn't miss yesterday, could have done without yesterday, but I missed youOriginally Posted by Sher2
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Forgive me for butting in, but I just had to delurk for a sec ... was the book actually printed and sold like that!? That's horrible.Originally Posted by James D. Macdonald
As long as I'm here, anybody wanna be on a reality show for authors?
(Check out the bookmillionaire.com link in the first post.)
I was playing the Dungeon Siege II preview build last night (computer game), and I came upon something called an invocation circle (or incantation circle, or something like that). Anyway, the description of it was something like, "This invocation circle resonates with harmonic <something-or-other>," and my first thought was of PA. I don't think I'll ever be able to see that word again without thinking of PA.
That is quite probably the dullest sounding reality show I've ever heard. I would not make gripping viewing.
"HE'S SITTING ON HIS *** POSTING ON FORUMS INSTEAD OF DOING THE WRITING HE SPENT THE WHOLE DAY SWEARING TO DO! NO, WAIT....HE'S LOADING UP WORD...LOADING....LOADING AND-OH THE EXCITEMENT!"
"Jeremy, if you look at the clock, you'll see-"
"We'll be back after he's finished watching Dead Like Me. Folks, we're sorry. We didn't think this through. So sorry. Really. Great commercials coming right up."
Originally Posted by MsRasputina
Howdy, MsRasputina, it's nice to meet you. Welcome to AW. I hope you enjoy the site.
And I can assure you that PA prints and sells stuff like that all the time. Go to Amazon.com and check out the cover for Wyverinia Chronicles sometime. That's my PA book. Ugh, that cover is awful -- and I drew the darned thing myself! I never realized it would look that bad in print.
I'm sure PA realized that, though; they just didn't give a flip, and that's one reason I don't like that publisher too much.
PER THE MODERATORSOriginally Posted by Gratian Gasparri
This thread is not about ME. So any questions or concerns about ME and MY BOOK need to be addressed to ME in PM.
In answer to your question about PA...they didn't say anything to me about cookie cutter books or convince me to go with them by any manner.
I sent my manuscript...they accepted it. There were no sales tactics used to persuade me to join PA.
Lastly I have 3 novels that PA does not have and in the process of writing #4 and #4, could you please refer me to your publisher?
I really should bookmark this man's website and insist all members of my critique group read it regularly.Originally Posted by MartyKay
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Thank you, Mem. Feelin' much better thanks to all the virtual stuff y'all sent out yesterday. I'm not subjecting myself to a repeat of yesterday, though -- that would be too, too much punishment.Originally Posted by T42
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So, where are they holding auditions?Originally Posted by Richard
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I have to get this off my chest because yesterday exhausted me! I think it is great to invite Pa authors over to talk about their viewpoints and to listen to what they have to say but to allow it to go on all day and evening and for all of us too feed into it was sick. Even though it was suggested by other members to let it go we all kept feeding into this persons game. Myself included. I was under attach in her very first post and I had to put up with that at Pa and do not want that in a thread in which I am supposed to be safe from harassment. Pa let their authors bash me for a week before they banned me and guess who's post were always deleted. When I saw that happening last night, I was upset. I had to listen to and put up with all that garbage before I found this place and I make a point not to go to the Pa threads very much for the same reason. Itís the same ridiculous stuff. These people are going to defend PA until they have gotten a belly full and to allow them to come to a thread at AW and do this is not right in my opinion. Let them state an opinion and then move on. By allowing what happened yesterday, we are inviting harassment from every Pa author that wants to come over and do this. (Donít think this whole thing wasn't being watched) This thread is supposed to be about changing what is happening at PA or closing it down. I know some people are not out to close PA down but I am if they are not willing to change and I donít see that happening. If they close down I am no worse off then my book sitting with them for seven years. Personally, I think the IRS will do it for us.
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Gena, I wouldn't take it too harshly. Misunderstandings like that always pop up on the Net. It's just the way things work in the public domain.Originally Posted by gena140
For whomever else wants to know, I believe the individual who made the 'Superfriends' remark was a gentleman on the PA boards by the name of SCHarrison. I could be mistaken on that, but I did read that quote on the PA boards and I'm pretty darned sure that quote was not Gena's.
this only shows how desparate they are for reality shows...Originally Posted by Sher2
unless it's going to be like NaNoWriMo where they have to produce something in a month... now that might be interesting if only for the nervous breakdowns that are gonna happen on camera...
Randomly, check the other links on that Book Millionaire site. I smell rats. With up-sell products on hand.
This is quite amusing though:
*cough* SHILL *cough*You and others will complete a series of tasks which pertain to book promotion and living the lifestyle of a best selling author. You will not need to have your own book finished for the filming. Rather, we will use prominent company products and currently published books for the tasks.
Last edited by Richard; 04-14-2005 at 06:03 PM.
Sean, I'm sorry but why are we still bringing up her post? Yesterday was enough. Haven't we given her enough time? If she wants to talk about why Pa doesn't work for their authors then I would be willing to talk but please...enough is enough...Originally Posted by SeanDSchaffer
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Richard, good catch. I found this tidbit to be particularly interesting:Originally Posted by Richard
Q: Do I have to have a book already written or published? Or can I have just a book idea?
A: All applicants will be considered for the show regardless if their books are written, partially written or still an idea. We are looking for a person who desires to be America's next Book Millionaire and best selling author. This means the book may or may not be written yet nor would it need to be written before filming of the show.
Uh, huh. If the book isn't finished, how do they even know the author can finish a book? Also, a lot of the pages were the same. Looks like they're just trying this "interesting marketing concept" to get people sucked into their services.
This site is run by Best Seller Publishing, Inc., discussed before at AW:Originally Posted by Richard
I think the rats are professional ones...
I love how they're talking about airing in Fall 2005 when they haven't 1. picked anyone yet, 2. lined up any sponsors, or 3. even gotten a deal with any networks, if I'm reading the FAQ correctly.
The Three Stooges are probably thinking " :Smack: -- why didn't *we* think of this one?"
Er, instead of making three or four different posts at one time, I tend to try and make one post covering various topics. My response to the quoted section was the first part of that post (before the Superfriends comments, and the bit about free books, which also had nothing to do with you, btw). Sorry to have confused you...Originally Posted by gena140
Mem, I hear what you are saying, and I sympathize with your aggravation.
But I think it is important that this thread remains open to those who hold a differing opinion. I too would rather that everyone here come and present their opinions in a rational and mature manner, but we both know that is not going to happen. There are trolls out there and they are always going to be out there, no matter what side of an issue you are on.
All we can do is present our argument and our proof and allow those who are reading to make up their own minds about the truth of the issue. People will create their own reputation and earn the respect that they deserve by the way that they conduct themselves online in public. This is the most popular thread on a public board on a popular site for the publishing industry -- it is by all accounts rather famous in and of itself -- and the actions of people here will be remembered for a long time by many in the industry, I suspect.
I will never feel as strongly as you do about PA Mem, because I was never a PA author and I am not in your shoes. That distance lets me take a more neutral tone at times. But make no mistake, I both understand and sympathize with the passion of the ex-PA authors and I admire those of you who are brave enough to come here and recant some of the things previously said.
Keep the faith, Mem. It is obvious that PA is not the company it was even six months ago. The efforts of those here have changed the manner in which PA conducts its business, to a certain extent. They are most certainly on the run, and they will either clean up their act, or they will go out. Our job, I think, is simply to keep educating people -- which will deprive PA of a portion of their next victims -- and will force one or the other result.
I wish you the best.
"We'll move up into the mountains so far that we can't be found..."
Sorry, I needed to do that. Is it safe in here now? I woke up to about 15 pages of posts this morning, all reading about the same crap. It was like watching grass grow. We all stated our opinions (some of which is well informed and has lots of experience behind it) and yet the same thing over, and over and over...
I think alot of this could have been avoided if the person in question had started out by reading the "reasons we don't like PA" thread.
Now.... PA sucks. Why? Because they treat their authors like Purple Pony waste. In so many ways and on so many levels. The End.
I really need to get back and finish my rewrite - yes, I'm still working on it. But, on the upside, I'm down to the last ten pages and almost done. Then I can start on the new book.
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Yeah, BUT what IF....we could all be stars, we could be rich and famous, we could be on PA's front page, right next to Jamie who?Originally Posted by Susan Gable
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Actually, I've often thought that a reality show about authors would be coming sooner than later. Although many authors may be dull people in what they do (sit around and write by themselves), the personality conflicts alone would probably drive ratings. Just think if you could get ten authors together in a room, all with different ideas of how things should work. Writers, by definition, have something to say...and many can be very opinionated (and stubborn).Originally Posted by Richard
Jeff thank you and I don't mean to be upset with anyone here. In fact, I'm not upset with anyone here. I am just very passionate about my views on PA and I suppose it is because I allowed myself to be taken by them and it makes me very angry at myself sometimes. I just felt like I could have gone to the PA threads to hear all of that yesterday. Forgive my inpatients! Heck for that matter, forgive my writing...it stinks!Originally Posted by Jeff
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