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    Mostly Harmless SuperModerator CaoPaux's Avatar
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    Winghill Writing School / Quality of Course, Inc.

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    06-15-2006, 12:43 PM
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    Wing Hill Writing School?

    http://www.winghill.com/winghill/default.asp

    Anyone familiar with this school? Is it like Writer's Digest? Opinions? A friend is thinking of signing up. Thanks.
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    06-15-2006, 12:54 PM
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    Your best bet would be to check out the writing credentials of the instructors, and whether or not they have experience teaching. Some terrific writers are rotten teachers. I'd make sure the writers are published and well-respected in their genre--I'd be hard pressed to feel I'd received my money's worth if I were paying to get writing advice from someone who was no further along in his/her writing career than I.
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    06-15-2006, 01:18 PM
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    I'm with Nomad. Check them out thorughly.

    They also seem to be known as Quality of Course at http://www.qualityofcourse.com/default.asp

    They list the same tutors, and at this site there are tutor bios.
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    06-15-2006, 05:12 PM
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    Thanks for the input.
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    06-19-2006, 12:17 PM
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    Huh. Twenty years in business, yet only three examples of students' published work.

    http://www.qualityofcourse.com/published.asp
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    I googled a few of the tutors' names. Several had almost no web presence at all except for the bio on the school's site. One wrote under a pseudonym, which is fine, but it made it difficult to track his work down because he's listed by real name in his tutor bio.

    One of the tutors has apparently had several books published through Zebra that are currently available by reprint through the Author's Guild backinprint service. But the excerpt on her website is so sloppy I thought she was vanity-published before I looked further. I just wasn't very impressed, overall.

    If it were *my* thousand dollars on the line, I'd do a LOT more research. Actually, I'd go buy a few books on writing and maybe a course or two from someone I *knew* was legitimate.
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    Boast, boast, brag....
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    06-19-2006, 03:36 PM
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    Quote:
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    Boast, boast, brag....
    I stopped counting at 50.
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    I stopped counting at 50.
    I checked the instructor's list and my inner fanpoodle had a seizure. It wasn't pretty. It's too bad they make you actually write something to get in, or I'd go just to stalk-- er, talk.
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    I'm also looking at this school, and hope someone comes up with some information. I can't find anything bad about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madhatter View Post
    I'm also looking at this school, and hope someone comes up with some information. I can't find anything bad about them.
    But can you find anything good about them (not written by them)?
    Why doesn't George R. R. Martin use Twitter? He already killed off all 140 characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madhatter View Post
    I'm also looking at this school, and hope someone comes up with some information. I can't find anything bad about them.
    Interesting that they don't list the cost of their course anywhere on the site.

    Before doing this type of correspondence course, it might be worth looking into community college writing classes. if you're interested in writing classes. Many have continuing ed classes for not too much money. And you meet local writers, too.

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    WELL great...i just sent them money booo. What a letdown, so they really are a scam? because i dont see why, i paid friday and have already logged into the student center and i can already check out my first assignment...Should i ask for a refund? All i wanted to do was get some more training, because im the type where i'll start something, but end up getting stuck and trunk the whole thing! They dont offer creative writing where i live, all they have are journalism degrees and i dont want that! i guess im stupid and naive to think that 53 dollars a month will help me finish and get published....

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    Hi all,
    I am a student support specialist at the Winghill Writing School and thought I would get back to you.

    I think it’s important for everyone to do research and find the right school/training for them as every writer is unique. It is always nice to see forums like this where writers support each other.

    If you would like more information about our school, check us out on the Better Business Bureau (BBB). Also, check us out on Facebook if you have questions for us, our graduates, our current students, or other enquirers.

    Of course, please always feel free to contact the school if you have any questions, concerns, and/or comments.

    Shirley
    Student Support Specialist
    Winghill Writing School

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    I enrolled with Winghill. It is a scam. They boast about their money back guarantee, but it's not true. Take this example of my experience for instance, if you do any of the assignments (the first four assignments are easy and the tutor does not even "correct" them) they will take money off the refund. On top of this you have to pay to return the the "course materials" which are a group of awful self published books. if they're not in "mint and unused" condition, they deduct more money. You must return them with a tracking number, which is more money you will not get repaid. All together, I paid $53 for the first month. I canceled within the 21 day money back guarantee period, but i have been told that I will not receive my $53. Also, it will cost me $32 on top of my $53 (that I will not see again) just to ship the materials back.

    I consider this a scam, but even if not a scam, it is a waste of time and money to pay such a sneaky and conniving business.

    Better take your money elsewhere and avoid winghill / quality of course.

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