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    facing hate with grace

    Sat Nam! (literally "Truth Name"--a Sikh greeting)

    One man's way of treating hate with grace:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/11/opinio...lah/index.html

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    I saw that through a link on Twitter and wondered if the gentleman could be cloned and widely distributed. We could use the racist woman for parts, maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siri Kirpal View Post
    Sat Nam! (literally "Truth Name"--a Sikh greeting)

    One man's way of treating hate with grace:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/11/opinio...lah/index.html

    Blessings,

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    I admire this man.

    I think it is time to revisit the philosophy of MLK Jr. and Gandhi, but it is indeed hard in times when so many seem to think that various segments of the population shouldn't be allowed to exist at all, or (at best) should have most of their rights and freedoms stripped away.

    Fighting hate with hate isn't the answer, but will angry, frightened people be able to take the moral high road in a time when discrimination is being framed as Constitutionally (in the US, at least--not sure how it's being framed in Canada) protected "free speech" and "religious freedom" and the supreme court is one justice away from agreeing with them? I've never been so worried for the future of our society.
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    I watched it on Twitter, too. I was awed by the man's patience. From what I read, the loudmouth woman is a fixture anywhere "muslims" are gathering, shouting them down just like this no matter what. The problem, of course, is she so horrifically, obnoxiously ignorant, she doesn't even know (or maybe just care) the man's a Sikh.

    The effect he was having on those around him who were sympathetic (and clearly worried) was remarkable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElaineA View Post
    The problem, of course, is she so horrifically, obnoxiously ignorant, she doesn't even know (or maybe just care) the man's a Sikh.
    I don't agree that this is the problem. I don't care that he's a Sikh and not a Muslim either. He himself refused to point that out, because to do so would imply that her behaviour would be okay if he were a Muslim. And I don't think it would be okay if he had been.
    The problem, imho, is her hatred of anything other. Her ignorance is the vomit flavoured icing on her shitty, shitty cake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyB27 View Post
    I don't agree that this is the problem. I don't care that he's a Sikh and not a Muslim either. He himself refused to point that out, because to do so would imply that her behaviour would be okay if he were a Muslim. And I don't think it would be okay if he had been.
    The problem, imho, is her hatred of anything other. Her ignorance is the vomit flavoured icing on her shitty, shitty cake.
    ACK! You're absolutely right. Though I didn't mean the implication you pointed out at all, my post was carelessly worded. Thank you for calling it out. I agree 100% with your concluding sentences.
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    The woman then went onto Facebook to issue an "apology" in which she confused Hindus and Sikhs. So that's the level we're dealing with, here.

    This is probably the most attention an NDP leadership candidate has or will ever receive.

    I'm still not voting for him . Though I do like him. And whoever wins is likely, IMO, to be a very temporary fixture, politically, given how fractured the NDP party base is right now.

    As a few people have pointed out, we too often celebrate/expect his rare and difficult constraint in the face of hate and condemn any reaction that doesn't meet with social standards when what he showed is in fact incredibly hard to pull off and not something that can be reasonably expected of the vast, vast majority of people faced with such comments.

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    Sat Nam! (Literally "Truth Name"--a Sikh greeting)

    Oh, yes, this one is hard to pull off and doesn't work at all when the person(s) is/are pulling triggers or wielding a wild car. I'm not suggesting this is the only way to go.

    And Jimmy's right about why the man acted the way he did.

    My only reason for posting this is to show that love in the face of hate IS possible...because we don't always remember.

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