I am curious to see what insiders have to say about this question. I'd also like to hear what you think of the changes?
The quality of writing being published is generally on the up. Intense competition and smaller markets will do that to books, especially on the literary end.
You just have to read some retro scifi to see how the genre has, on the whole, improved vastly.
Hmm, that's at least partly a question of taste. Captain Future or Lucky Starr would never see the light of day today, but those were some of my favorite books growing up. OTOH, I'm not particularly a fan of cyberpunk or steampunk.
Hmm, that's at least partly a question of taste. Captain Future or Lucky Starr would never see the light of day today, but those were some of my favorite books growing up. OTOH, I'm not particularly a fan of cyberpunk or steampunk.
I don't know that I'd agree that writing is of a higher quality now than it was in 2007, though. Or 1997, or before that.
I'm noticing technical changes on the querying side, as others have mentioned. More online submission forms and more agents looking for email only queries. More granular realtime info on agent wishes and reactions. More online communities.
While the books got longer, the format in which YA is published seems to have transitioned. I used to find all my books in mass-market paperback. Until Twilight. Now, YA books are released as hardcover, then trade paperbacks. The last new YA book I saw in mass-market (ironically) was a printing of Twilight with the movie poster as the cover. I found it in a grocery store or an airport or something. Everything else--trade.
This is more of just a publishing trend in general. Mass-market paperbacks are on their way out, in general - ebooks have kind of taken over the price point, and the only authors who really sell well in mass-market are the big ones (Stephen King, etc.).
As Pierce pointed out in the acknowledgements for TRICKSTER'S QUEEN, it wasn't until the later books of HP that publishers started to think kids would read long books, and allow YA books to extend past roughly 200-300 pages. My memory of other books in that time period backs this up--lots of very slim books (Amelia Atwater-Rhodes, Laurie Halse Anderson, Vivian Vande Velde, Meredith Ann Pierce). If you look at those same writers today (the ones who are still writing), their books have largely gotten longer and thicker. The middle grade books being published today are longer than YA was when I was in middle school. I've got a book on my shelf that contains three novels from the pre-Twilight era; the whole thing is the same thickness as one of Beka Cooper's (Tamora Pierce again) books.
When QueryShark started, anything over 80,000 words or so was flagged as "too long" for YA; more recent YA queries for books 100k or so don't even get blinked at.
While the books got longer, the format in which YA is published seems to have transitioned. I used to find all my books in mass-market paperback. Until Twilight. Now, YA books are released as hardcover, then trade paperbacks. The last new YA book I saw in mass-market (ironically) was a printing of Twilight with the movie poster as the cover. I found it in a grocery store or an airport or something. Everything else--trade.
It's probably to do with the small sample I've looked at, but I have trouble finding a steampunk world I would want to stay in for more than ten pages or so. Part of it is that I am largely assumed to be female but I do not identify as female, and I resent any world that tries to justify putting people with my physiology in boxes. This is, in turn, probably why the one steampunk-ish world I read through to the end and thoroughly enjoyed was by Adrienne Kress (THE FRIDAY SOCIETY). Three female characters, placed variously on the gender-presentation spectrum.
Okay, tangent over.
It depends. Most of my reading throughout my life has been in YA, and I still have pre-HP books on my shelves from that age range. I will tell you that, in my opinion and that of my Pierce-loving friends, Tamora Pierce didn't shine nearly so brightly in Alanna's books as she did in Kel's and Aly's. A large part of that is to do with the number of pages per book she was allowed, which brings me to another way publishing (at least in YA) has changed.
As Pierce pointed out in the acknowledgements for TRICKSTER'S QUEEN, it wasn't until the later books of HP that publishers started to think kids would read long books, and allow YA books to extend past roughly 200-300 pages. My memory of other books in that time period backs this up--lots of very slim books (Amelia Atwater-Rhodes, Laurie Halse Anderson, Vivian Vande Velde, Meredith Ann Pierce). If you look at those same writers today (the ones who are still writing), their books have largely gotten longer and thicker. The middle grade books being published today are longer than YA was when I was in middle school. I've got a book on my shelf that contains three novels from the pre-Twilight era; the whole thing is the same thickness as one of Beka Cooper's (Tamora Pierce again) books. When QueryShark started, anything over 80,000 words or so was flagged as "too long" for YA; more recent YA queries for books 100k or so don't even get blinked at.
While the books got longer, the format in which YA is published seems to have transitioned. I used to find all my books in mass-market paperback. Until Twilight. Now, YA books are released as hardcover, then trade paperbacks. The last new YA book I saw in mass-market (ironically) was a printing of Twilight with the movie poster as the cover. I found it in a grocery store or an airport or something. Everything else--trade.
(The above is all what I've seen as a reader and observer. I may be wrong in the grander scheme of things.)
Oh yeah. No longer are things lost in the mail--now, a good chunk of agencies have auto-responders confirming they got the query, and plenty of agents tweet with how far back they are in their slush.
HP was growing up, and so he wasn't really a suitable character for proper YA books anymore. So as he aged in the books, the books' genres changed slightly with him.
I really don't know where you get the idea that YA was not a thing, that there was some rule YA books couldn't exceed 200-300 pgs, and now that there weren't YA hardbacks, before ... you started reading YA.
There was tons of YA, some long, some released in hardback, years and years ago. I used to go park myself in the YA section, among shelves and shelves. I used to mine the used bookstore too, for older stuff (they had a whole little room of YA) and I remember reading stuff from Danziger, Zindel, Cooney, Duncan, Sleator, even V.C. Andrews, and ten tons more.
Not for nothing, but longer does not equal better. Some of the later Harry Potter books needed cutting.
Doesn't HP go from MG-->YA, not YA-->adult?
Nevertheless, my point about HP the character growing and ageing through the series stands.