Australian Politics - Office of Home Affairs and the Section 44 Mess

Albedo · Jul 25, 2017

If we're lucky they'll discover that constitutionally, no-one's allowed to sit in the parliament at all.

Albedo · Jul 25, 2017

If we're lucky they'll discover that constitutionally, no-one's allowed to sit in the parliament at all.

"Sorry, guys, looks like the last 116 years of legislation is invalid. We need to start again."

Helix · Jul 25, 2017

At last, some good has come from s44.

Piss off, Canavan.

Albedo · Jul 25, 2017

"Until then, everything is legal. Everything."

Albedo · Jul 25, 2017

Helix said:
At last, some good has come from s44.

Piss off, Canavan.

What's happening with Malcom;bitcoin.ROBERTS?

Albedo · Jul 25, 2017

The best part is, it was his Mum what did it. Or at least, he's blaming her: https://twitter.com/ccroucher9/status/889762575788802048

Helix · Jul 25, 2017

Hanson has suggested he lead an inquiry into s44.

I might have misread that. *goes to check*

ETA: It was something like that: https://twitter.com/PaulineHansonOz/status/889761122785517568

Albedo · Jul 25, 2017

Helix said:
Hanson has suggested he lead an inquiry into s44.

I might have misread that. *goes to check*

ETA: It was something like that: https://twitter.com/PaulineHansonOz/status/889761122785517568

I did enjoy the responses to that. God, it would be good if it turned out she was a dual citizen of somewhere else. That's probably too much to hope for, though.

Say, do you think if we very nicely asked the government of, I dunno, the Comoros or somewhere, they'd start awarding honorary citizenships to Australian pollies?

Helix · Jul 25, 2017

How about Nauru? They can all bugger off to Nauru and we can put asylum seekers into parliament.

be frank · Jul 25, 2017

A flock of birds had a balls-out brawl on our bedroom roof yesterday morning (at about 6:00am. Thanks for that, birdbrains). There was squawking and shrieking for a full 20 minutes. Mr. BF said, "It sounds like something's getting killed out there." Me: "It sounds like parliamentary question time."

Albedo said:
What's happening with Malcom;bitcoin.ROBERTS?

Wait, is there something going on with Malcolm Roberts that I missed? (please, please, please).

Albedo said:
The best part is, it was his Mum what did it. Or at least, he's blaming her

Ah, the Warnie Defence. It's a classic.

Albedo · Jul 25, 2017

be frank said:
Wait, is there something going on with Malcolm Roberts that I missed? (please, please, please).

He was born in India. There's some speculation that he might be an Indian citizen.

be frank · Jul 25, 2017

Albedo said:
He was born in India. There's some speculation that he might be an Indian citizen.

Oh, interesting. I'm guessing he's too young for British citizenship to also be a risk there.

Fingers crossed!

Helix · Jul 25, 2017

But his father was British, so that makes British citizenship a possibility. Or something. Both Independent Australia and the Australian had something about this issue.

It would be so very good if Senator Colon was buried by s44.

be frank · Jul 25, 2017

It'd be wonderful.

Just did some reading. Seems unlike Tony Abbott (frex) who insisted he only has Australian citizenship, and then presented the documentation (pity), Roberts insists the same but hasn't shown any proof.

Course, even if he's found to have both British and Indian citizenship, he'll just claim there's no empirical evidence, and it's all just a NASA conspiracy anyway.

Ambrosia · Jul 25, 2017

*Marks another country off my list of possible places to escape to.*

Helix · Jul 25, 2017

Buzzfeed has been digging up Senator Colon's records: https://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistef...g-a-one-nation?utm_term=.bsJWw0aGp#.hf18JxXPq

Meanwhile, everyone else has excavated Canavan's background and noticed that the application for Italian citizenship happened at about the time that his dad was done for nicking $1.6 million from Nestle.

ETA: http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...m/news-story/2bdedbae431500a9f11f80f38b2bda16

RightHoJeeves · Jul 25, 2017

Albedo said:
If we're lucky they'll discover that constitutionally, no-one's allowed to sit in the parliament at all.

"Sorry, guys, looks like the last 116 years of legislation is invalid. We need to start again."

Yeeeeeeah I'm not so sure that would be such a good thing...

Albedo · Jul 25, 2017

Helix said:
Buzzfeed has been digging up Senator Colon's records: https://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistef...g-a-one-nation?utm_term=.bsJWw0aGp#.hf18JxXPq

Oh please, oh please let this go somewhere. And please let Malcolm\\semicolon

rObErTs go full sovereign citizen at the High Court. It'll be legendary.

Meanwhile, everyone else has excavated Canavan's background and noticed that the application for Italian citizenship happened at about the time that his dad was done for nicking $1.6 million from Nestle.

ETA: http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...m/news-story/2bdedbae431500a9f11f80f38b2bda16

be frank · Jul 25, 2017

Helix said:
Buzzfeed has been digging up Senator Colon's records: https://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistef...g-a-one-nation?utm_term=.bsJWw0aGp#.hf18JxXPq

Oh please, oh please, oh please.

*crosses hooves*

Helix · Jul 26, 2017

He might be on the verge of going full SovCit

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...e-was-never-a-uk-citizen-20170727-gxjp3c.html

be frank · Jul 26, 2017

Helix said:
He might be on the verge of going full SovCit

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...e-was-never-a-uk-citizen-20170727-gxjp3c.html

LOL. I came here to post that article. I especially like:

"He is choosing to believe that he was never British. He is preferring to believe that he was never British because he has no allegiance or exercised any citizenship arrangement. However they have renounced and released him of anything to do with them," [Malcolm Robert's spokesman] said.

"... There is nothing wrong or incongruent with Malcolm Roberts putting his hand up and saying as far as I'm concerned I'm not British, never was - the British government may have a different view."

Bolding mine. This is kinda the crux of the issue, yes? It doesn't matter what you believe -- what matters is reality. For example, it doesn't matter if you believe climate change is all a NASA hoax, reality will still bite you in the ass one day.

Helix · Jul 26, 2017

Neither Scott Ludlam or Larissa Waters believed they were dual citizens, yet Senator Colon is holding an inquiry to see whether they should be paying back their salaries. Salaries earned while they were doing a proper job in the Senate, not behaving like a whiny tinfoil-hatted drongo. (No offence to other types of drongos.)

I not only hope it bites him in the arse, I hope it bites his arse right off.

be frank · Jul 26, 2017

I still cannot comprehend how this nutbag is in the Senate having garnered only 77 actual votes.

Albedo · Jul 27, 2017

be frank said:
I still cannot comprehend how this nutbag is in the Senate having garnered only 77 actual votes.

It's the way our senate voting system works. Enough people voted for ON in Queensland that Hanson got a full quota and the remainder spilled over to elect ;. (It's crazy I know, but at least it's better than under the old system. Now you at least know those voters intended to elect a One Nation candidate.)

be frank · Jul 27, 2017

Oh, I understand how. I just don't understand hooooow.

Like, in a hair-tearing-out kinda way.

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