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    Watch out for NEWBIE mistakes. They dock your post count.

    I have been a member since April.

    I asked about some contests in a forum to see if they were still running. Lisa, the moderator, says that was wrong of me and docked me 15 posts.
    I am confused. What is this site all about? I thought it was about helping each other, whether we are new or published. I have been penalized for asking questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias54 View Post
    I have been a member since April.

    I asked about some contests in a forum to see if they were still running. Lisa, the moderator, says that was wrong of me and docked me 15 posts.
    I am confused. What is this site all about? I thought it was about helping each other, whether we are new or published. I have been penalized for asking questions.
    Actually, Lisa is the site Admin and sent you this PM:

    Quote Originally Posted by AW Admin
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    Please stop posting in four and five year old long dead threads about contests that are over.

    Particularly stop posting when you're asking why there are no recent responses to the thread.

    It looks very much like you're rushing to get to 50 posts in order to post in Share Your Work.

    Assuming that that is the case (and it might not be) there's a reason we require members to engage with the community, to read some crits, and to actually try critting themselves.

    It's because members who rush to get to 50 posts in order to post something of their own aren't ready for crit. They don't know what it means to be critted, what it's like or how to respond, and it results in distress.

    Please read the stickies in Share Your Work.

    Read why we require 50 posts.

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    And you've been haranguing me in PMs ever since. I'm tired of trying to explain to you that you're not the center of the universe.
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    "Tobias" first joined in February of 2011, as Itobias.

    He was banned for harassing other members.

    Thanks to the sharp-eyed members who remembered the initial SYW post in 2013 and recognized it when an excerpt was posted again.

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    The same piece of work, four years later? Oh dear...
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    And thanks to another sharp-eyed member, we have another sock account: oscar54.

    Bleamy's Corner from oscar54
    Bleamy's Corner from Itobias

    My Cover Creep from Itobias
    My Covers Creep from Tobias54

    Wilmas's War from oscar54
    Wilma's War from Itobias

    It's telling I think that we have someone who rushes to 50 for crit, but doesn't crit anything.

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    Annnd now he's trying to leave hostile comments on the AW blog.

    Using a Proxy IP that I'm banning, and an email address tied to a previously banned sock.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Gender
    Lisa S is not a good person.
    She is one of the reasons the worlds is getting so cold.
    Keep in mind that this is the same person who wants AW to crit, but never gives back by critting.

    Don't be this guy. This is being an entitled, exploitive jerk. Note, by the way that the first known account was banned for harassing and web stalking another AW member.
    Last edited by AW Admin; 06-20-2017 at 10:27 PM.

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    Sheesh, I'm sorry you have to put up with shit like this, Lisa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ Litke View Post
    Sheesh, I'm sorry you have to put up with shit like this, Lisa.
    The rest of the members make it worthwhile, really they do, but I do get tired of people like this guy and various banned as trolls with hate blogs etc.

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    The really sad thing is, his writing's actually not bad! Ah well, his loss...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maryn View Post
    (I was once a moderator at a chat, but quit when its owner reversed a ban I set on a member who insisted on calling other members an ethnic slur I won't repeat here, even after being warned. That's no way to run a joint.)
    It isn't. Our admin created amnesty for all the banned members. It made all of us mad, as you can imagine, and they all disappeared. So now it's me full time and another who pops in once a month to moderate about 11,000 members. I bid my time until the troublemakers get about a dozen red cards and permabanned them. Ridiculous. If any of them are ever allowed to come back I won't be back.
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    I love this place. Not only because it has a jerk filter but because when I, sweet, silvery haired Grammy Shakey, get a little batshit crazy, myself, and start believing that I am infallible and genius and Jane Fonda's anointed prophet, some mod slips me a PM and tells me to cool it, I cool it. I might stew in gin and tonic water for an hour or two, but then I remember that I love and respect the mods for the peace they keep.

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    Chiming in to add my thanks to the mods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlys View Post
    Chiming in to add my thanks to the mods.
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    I really can't get into the mindset of someone who is so determined to do this kind of thing. I (sort of) understand casual trolls. And I've been guilty of a little drive-by snark in the past, but how is it possibly worth the effort of creating sock-puppets, changing IPs, etc.?

    Thanks mods, for dealing with this so that this can be a nice place for everyone else.

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    I admire the equanimity with which Lisa, Mac, and the other mods deal with extreme provocation. Lisa, especially, deals with a near steady stream of abuse in dealing with peeps like that. A lot of the time you might think a 30-day timeout or a banning was overkill based on the behavior you saw on the screen. Boy oh boy, you have no idea what went on backchannel in response to a perfectly innocuous PM like the one Lisa quoted above. o_O It boggles, it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlys View Post
    Chiming in to add my thanks to the mods.
    And the members. For instance, it was two members who recognized the story excerpts and pointed to the previous incarnations.

    We've got a pretty great group, despite the Tobias' specimens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabitha Rose View Post
    I really can't get into the mindset of someone who is so determined to do this kind of thing. I (sort of) understand casual trolls. And I've been guilty of a little drive-by snark in the past, but how is it possibly worth the effort of creating sock-puppets, changing IPs, etc.?

    Thanks mods, for dealing with this so that this can be a nice place for everyone else.
    Same. I just don't get it. We all get pissy sometimes, but what's with the years-long obsessions that fester in some people after they're banned? It must be draining. Why not channel all the vituperative rage-energy into something constructive, like, I dunno, writing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindyt View Post
    It isn't. Our admin created amnesty for all the banned members. It made all of us mad, as you can imagine, and they all disappeared. So now it's me full time and another who pops in once a month to moderate about 11,000 members. I bid my time until the troublemakers get about a dozen red cards and permabanned them. Ridiculous. If any of them are ever allowed to come back I won't be back.
    Heh Mac did the same via her Jubliblee year in March of 2016. She even offered socks amnesty.

    So I'm not inclined to look the other way for repeatedly banned members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albedo View Post
    Same. I just don't get it. We all get pissy sometimes, but what's with the years-long obsessions that fester in some people after they're banned? It must be draining. Why not channel all the vituperative rage-energy into something constructive, like, I dunno, writing?
    One of the primary characteristics of the repeatedly banned is that they frequently make bad decisions about publishing, ranging from picking the most notoriously unprofessional publishers and agents, to some poorly thought out efforts at self publishing (they tend to think self-publishing is easy when it's hard to do well), instead of concentrating on their writing. This is particularly true of the small cadre who keep creating socks, get banned because they're writing identifies them, and then do it again.

    You'd think if we were so awful a community, run by such cruel people, they'd stop trying to join.

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