Can a world government convince a modern public to support the creation of child soldiers?

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The world is at war with an hostile alien race. This species invaded earth a few decades back, and forced the governments of the planet to unite under a single federation. This world government is similar to the EU and retains some of its democratic institutions, but with more centralized power. This was done to combine resources and to make fighting back more effective. Unfortunately, the war is going badly. People are being slaughtered in the hundreds of millions, genocide on a scale unprecedented in human history. These aliens are comitted to exterminate the human race for unclear reasons. Trying to reason or understand them has failed, and the world government has resigned itself to total war. In these circumstances, the human race has just barely managed to hold on.
A secret organization within the government, called "the organization of secrets (OOS)", has managed to develop a weapon referred to as a geneseed. It is an advanced form of genetic engineering that turns humans into supersoldiers. People who are implanted with the seed transform into beings similar to the demigods of mythology. They are able to move at incredible speeds, and have the strength to lift dozens of tons. They also gain a host of other abilities, including increased intelligence, heavy resistance to weaponry, and heightened senses.
These abilities come with a cost. The geneseed can only be implanted successfully in children between the ages of 10-16, with anyone older dying horribly from the process. These child soldiers grow and mature at a quickened pace, and have little to no memory of their former life. Their emotions are suppressed due to the strain of the change on their bodies. They are then indoctrinated by the government to become the perfect weapons, killing when necessary and obeying orders without question .
The government is considering mandating this policy, but want to sell this program to the public without too much resistance. One idea is to treat the parents of said child as saviors, honoring them as heroes doing their duty to save their species. Parades and celebrations are made in their honor to acknowlege their sacrifice. Men and women are encouraged to have children, the more the better, in a program similiar to mussolini''s "battle of the births" in facist italy. Lifetime priveleges, such as tax reduction or free schooling for their other children, to cash grants, to other monetary benefits, are offered to couples as a way of increasing cooperation among the masses.
Would these steps the world government is taking be enough to sell a modernized public to support this policy? What other methods can be helpful in normalizing it?
 

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First, I assume the word in your title is meant to be "convince".

Second, you're writing a fiction story. You have my total permission to make it work any way you like.

caw
 

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Necessity trumps every other consideration in an end-of-the-world scenario such as this, but very few parents are going to willingly hand over their children to be mind-wiped and genetically engineered unless they have no choice. If the government can spin it as the saviour of humanity people will buy into it to some extent. First they would use the war orphans, those without family, then they would go for the families of the starving and the poor...
 

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It's a war with aliens! This plan gets my vote, let's get the propaganda machine warmed up, train 'em and send 'em out there.

SUPPORT OUR YOUNG HEROES

THEY FIGHT FOR EARTH - FOR ALL HUMANKIND

DEATH TO SQUIDS

I presume my family and other elite ruling families (aka the billionaires' club) will be exempt from such recruitment or can purchase exemption for their kids.

-Derek
 

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Humans can convince other humans to do anything as long as they assure them that Thing is an essential part of their identity, and particularly one that is under threat.
 

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Humans can convince other humans to do anything as long as they assure them that Thing is an essential part of their identity, and particularly one that is under threat.

"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities"
 

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Plato proposed in his utopia that we should invent a religion where the political ruler is effectively a divinity. He estimated it would take 3 generations for this belief to take root.

He was wrong--it took one. (Again, the Japanese, in ww2).
 

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Plato proposed in his utopia that we should invent a religion where the political ruler is effectively a divinity. He estimated it would take 3 generations for this belief to take root.

This was the religion in a number of ancient societies.

But, to be fair, I don't know how many generations it took for that to take root.
 
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Indoctrinating them early makes a big difference.

* Uniformed soldiers in schools, and if it fits your economy, military providing and running the schools as a direct recruitment route.
* Glorification of the military across all media: music, games, movies, TV shows.
* Strong, visible, positive military presence. Military in place of a friendly local police force. Military as school lollipop ladies. Military teachers, military patrols in the streets, military charity events.
* Recruitment campaigns and posters visible everywhere.
* Family military traditions. Military parents raising military kids, military siblings following in their older sister or brother's footsteps, friend groups at school all enlisting together.
* Big focus on the glory: the money, the experience, the friends and camaraderie, the skills and life-changing experience, bringing out your hidden skills and turning you into your best self. Current UK army and RAF promotional materials are good at this.
* Money, always, can be a powerful incentive. Especially for young kids with no real concept of earning a wage--the idea of making a thousand pounds in a month without needing to pay rent, being able to afford the latest games console and games, can be a huge incentive.

Make sure to cover what happens to the kids who don't fit the mold, though. How does your org handle disabled kids, queer kids, introverted kids etc?

One of the big problems I see is that your org is hidden, which limits a lot of their abilities to indoctrinate and spread propaganda. They might need to work closely with a well-regarded military or company to gain legitimacy.

I presume my family and other elite ruling families (aka the billionaires' club) will be exempt from such recruitment or can purchase exemption for their kids.

For real, this bit is HUGE. Get the elite on your side with preferable treatment, and you'll really give yourself a tactical advantage.


(...Wow, this thread is depressingly true to life.)
 
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Seriously, if it's a choice between sacrificing a few children, and having the human race wiped out, I'm not sure you can even call this "evil." If hundreds of millions are going to die otherwise, I think most people would consider it a tragic necessity.

Let's face it, there's not a black and white difference between using teens as soldiers and using people in the 18-25 range. Their lives are important too. There are lots of people in the world today who have no qualms about recruiting and using child soldiers, and for far less justification.
 

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Don't overthink this. There's a reason readers are willing to accept just about any evil done at the hands of government in fiction novels.
 

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(Might want to change the name of your phlebotinum - a "geneseed" implanted into pubescent teens that turns them into warrior demigods that fight aliens is both the name and the mechanism used by Games Workshop to describe Space Marines in Warhammer 40,000.)
 

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I mean, ISIS is using child soldiers to commit violent atrocities, so sure it can be done.
 

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Necessity trumps every other consideration in an end-of-the-world scenario such as this, but very few parents are going to willingly hand over their children to be mind-wiped and genetically engineered unless they have no choice. If the government can spin it as the saviour of humanity people will buy into it to some extent. First they would use the war orphans, those without family, then they would go for the families of the starving and the poor...
Take away free education from children and offer it only to children signed up in said-military. Parents that wouldn't have enormous wealth would be really torn on creating a better future at risk of death or keeping them simple.

I also think that there are more people than anyone would willingly admit who would give up their children for money.
 

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How many children would this program need? If they aren't stripping the streets bare of youths, it's easier for the public to ignore. And, if the families give up one child, the rest are 'safe'.
And, I agree with Alli B:
I also think that there are more people than anyone would willingly admit who would give up their children for money.
If the rewards are big enough, 'One for the family, one for the world', might become a useful slogan. Increase the birthrate, even. A second, (or more) child, more or less ignored, raised by staff, no-one getting too attached, as one's 'patriotic duty'. And, glad to get away from 'home', and on to it's 'destiny'.

And, look at the children in foster care. If these children (who could be given autonomy to sign themselves up) can get their rewards up front - a place in the 'adult world', a permanent home for their surviving off-spring, money for their siblings' education and medical care. Wouldn't even have to be single-family homes - those 'SOS Children's Villages' would work, just a stable, safe home - like living on base for military families.

Kids in dire circumstances, slums, slave labour, etc. might well volunteer - the 'anything is better than this' idea. You have all the world, a world full of desperate poverty and refugees. Yeah, people would sell their kids, and kids would join up on their own. Lots of people want to be heroes - super-strong, well-cared for, respected war-heroes. They don't think of death and maiming, not as it might affect them.
 

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Honestly, yes. We like to say it couldn't happen. That we would not be willing to do such thing. But the truth is, yes we would. The trick is writing in such a way as they consider it normal, or they feel its necessary, and the people feel its necessary. Remember, Nazi Germany was on something similar (without the implant thing), teens getting pregnant for the good of the fatherland. They were happy to do it. So actually, looking at things, probably very easy.
The problem for me for such soldiers, isn't the war, or how they got that way, but what happens after the war is over. Its not like a tank, or ship where it can be sent to the salvage yard to be cut up for scrap.
Personally I see in such a situation where cloning would become a highly sought after science instead of trying to raise soldiers from the natural process. Especially soldiers who genes are better suited to this geneseed process being cloned in mass numbers.
 

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The government could offer protection or wealth to impoverished or at risk families, those in dangerous zones. Parents with little regard for their children, or with multiple children, may opt to offer their son up for a home in a haven, or city protected, a fortress of sorts. Their child would be the cost to save the rest of the family, and after all- they can always repopulate.

Also, delinquent children- those who would be in modern day jouvie or just at risk youth could be forced into this, or those with no parental guardian such as an orphan could be convinced to join and promised wealth and a better life if they serve, of course that wont be true- but children are the easiest to lie to.