I think we've crossed another threshold in terms of lies

Devil Ledbetter said:

I don't understand why Chris Matthews doesn't even question her "Bowling Green Massacre" claim.

Also, I could swear she says "protecting American Americans" at 3:58.

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Maybe he was trying to figure out what the hell she was talking about? I don't know. I wish he had.

Alessandra Kelley said:

I think it is important to point out how very important it is to Trump and Putin that protesters shut up and go away.

All the more reason to exercise one's Constitutional rights to assembly and petition and redress of grievance.

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Isn't Trump also tweeting this morning that the protestors are paid?

Alessandra Kelley said:

I think it is important to point out how very important it is to Trump and Putin that protesters shut up and go away.

All the more reason to exercise one's Constitutional rights to assembly and petition and redress of grievance.

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The March for Science is ON for Earth Day, April 22. As with the Women's March, these will be worldwide. Keep an eye out for your city's event.

ElaineA said:

The March for Science is ON for Earth Day, April 22. As with the Women's March, these will be worldwide. Keep an eye out for your city's event.

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Sweet!

ElaineA said:

The March for Science is ON for Earth Day, April 22. As with the Women's March, these will be worldwide. Keep an eye out for your city's event.

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Definitely hoping to attend the next marches in my city. I missed the women's march here. I'm trying to hear of any marches and book around them rather than 'go if I can make it'. I feel they're priority.

I won't be attending any marches on American soil, as I have sworn myself off American soil while IT is in the White House. Hell, as it is...whenever I fly, I demand they lop off the right wing prior to my putting my ass on the plane. I need not the right wing in order to fly. If anything, it impedes flight.

Devil Ledbetter said:

I don't understand why Chris Matthews doesn't even question her "Bowling Green Massacre" claim.

Also, I could swear she says "protecting American Americans" at 3:58.

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Worse he ended the piece complimenting her on her counter arguments.

Conway walked her fake facts back this morning claiming she misspoke, not misspoke in that she had her facts wrong, but misspoke in that she meant something else. The press being all over her lie had an effect.

Spicer half corrected his outrageous statement when called on it by a member of the press corp:
Press Secretary Sean Spicer Falsely Accuses Iran of Attacking U.S. Navy Vessel, an Act of War

Major Garrett of CBS News quietly corrected him, saying “a Saudi vessel,” and Spicer then responded almost inaudibly: “Sorry, thank you, yes a Saudi vessel. Yes, that’s right.” He did not in any way address his false claim that it was an Iranian attack, however.

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Planning to be at the Science March in Boston (possibly in a brain hat).

My friends and I have talking about the effort to paint all protesters/marches as thugs or paid protesters (Trump tweeted that again today) and those who normally don't make political posts on social media are posting comments and photos of themselves attending marches. It might make it a little harder for some to believe that we're all just doing it for a paycheck (which is such an idiotic idea, but still).

I post whenever I march, but I'm also making social media noise about just how punishing it for me, with significant physically challenges, to be out there and that no one could pay me enough money to do hurt myself that much.

Since the Bowling Green comment was meant to defend the Muslim ban, I'll put a link to the ACLU Massachusetts Twitter feed. They're in court this morning fighting to defend the court order blocking Trump's EO.

KTC said:

Definitely hoping to attend the next marches in my city. I missed the women's march here. I'm trying to hear of any marches and book around them rather than 'go if I can make it'. I feel they're priority.

I won't be attending any marches on American soil, as I have sworn myself off American soil while IT is in the White House. Hell, as it is...whenever I fly, I demand they lop off the right wing prior to my putting my ass on the plane. I need not the right wing in order to fly. If anything, it impedes flight.

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AND minutes after I typed that I received an email:

JOIN US IN TORONTO ON FEB 4, AT 12:30PM AT THE U.S. CONSULATE FOR A MARCH AGAINST ISLAMOPHOBIA, WHITE SUPREMACY & DEPORTATIONS.

Damn. I'm away in Niagara Falls this weekend. I'll have to miss this one too. Going to see if I can push back the Niagara Falls thing an hour or two...ANYONE IN TORONTO WHO WANTS TO ATTEND THIS, THE ADDRESS IS:

360 University Ave, Toronto, ON M5G 1S4

Seattle's got an Awesome icon for the March for Science. Might have to get that shirt.




ETA: If you google (or search Twitter) March for Science + your city name you can see if there's already an organization in place

So Conway now says that she made a mistake and misspoke. She meant to say 'Bowling Green terrorists' instead of 'The Bowling Green Massacre'. How exactly do you make a mistake that involves spontaneously inventing a tabloid/history book event title on the spot?

I'm going to write an ode to the neglected event of the Sacking of Brevard. I'm sorry. I meant to say, the tailgate party at Brevard high last Friday night. I mean, it got pretty wild.

Perks said:

So Conway now says that she made a mistake and misspoke. She meant to say 'Bowling Green terrorists' instead of 'The Bowling Green Massacre'. How exactly do you make a mistake that involves spontaneously inventing a tabloid/history book event title on the spot?

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I'd guess:

1. It was a deliberate prior fabrication, hoping that no-one in the media would notice.
2. It was a deliberate prior fabrication, not caring that the media would notice, as long as she won that cycle.
3. She only skimmed the talking points prior to the interview.
4. Whoever constructed her talking points got it wrong.
5. She flubbed it, in the heat of a tv interview.
6. She exaggerated it in the heat of a tv interview, to help win her case.

And there's bound to be more possibilities.

I'm afraid, at this stage, I have no idea which of those is more likely.

tiggs said:

I'd guess:

1. It was a deliberate prior fabrication, hoping that no-one in the media would notice.
2. It was a deliberate prior fabrication, not caring that the media would notice, as long as she won that cycle.
3. She only skimmed the talking points prior to the interview.
4. Whoever constructed her talking points got it wrong.
5. She flubbed it, in the heat of a tv interview.
6. She exaggerated it in the heat of a tv interview, to help win her case.

And there's bound to be more possibilities.

I'm afraid, at this stage, I have no idea which of those is more likely.

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Number 4 sounds about right, with 3 also a contender.

I'll add #7: She got her facts from Breitbart.

Because we all need a little levity to get through this:

#BowlingGreenMassacre is trending on Twitter

It's got dueling bunnies.

And hedgehog* bowling balls.


*No hedgehogs were hurt making the video.

There's also a website: https://www.bowlinggreenmassacrefund.com/
(donate button goes to ACLU donations page)

MaeZe said:

Because we all need a little levity to get through this:

#BowlingGreenMassacre is trending on Twitter

It's got dueling bunnies.

And hedgehog* bowling balls.


*No hedgehogs were hurt making the video.

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WUT? I have the bunnies on my feed--I've rewatched a hundred times--but I haven't seen the Hedgehogs!

ElaineA said:

Seattle's got an Awesome icon for the March for Science. Might have to get that shirt.

ETA: If you google (or search Twitter) March for Science + your city name you can see if there's already an organization in place

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There are some clever science shirts on Etsy* (*not promoting the sellers).

MaeZe said:

Because we all need a little levity to get through this:

#BowlingGreenMassacre is trending on Twitter

It's got dueling bunnies.

And hedgehog* bowling balls.


*No hedgehogs were hurt making the video.

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This link and all the tweets made my day.

James D. Macdonald said:

So:

1) Literally insane (unable to tell reality from fantasy), or
2) Sending minions to say bizarre things in order to distract us from what they're really up to?

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3) Those are intended leaks by those close to Trump to show how crazy is the guy and meant to be a cry for help.

-cb

Perks said:

So Conway now says that she made a mistake and misspoke. She meant to say 'Bowling Green terrorists' instead of 'The Bowling Green Massacre'. How exactly do you make a mistake that involves spontaneously inventing a tabloid/history book event title on the spot?

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I think it was a mistake, but a telling, rather Freudian, one. Her subconscious said, as it assembled the sentence, "Ooh, I'm saying something about radicalized Islamic immigrants. There's something about bombs. That must mean Americans died horribly. Ok, I have the words "Bowling Green" ready to speak ... now add "massacre". Nailed it!"

I still say it's conscious Bannon-style tactics which lead to people believing in underground pedophile catacombs beneath Clinton's volcano lair, even when the origin of the story later says "I misspoke".
It's information flow pollution and truth-dilution as overall strategy. They believe this is poetic justice against the decadent postmodern lefties: "So there's no truth is there? So it's all socio-political constructs, is it? Fine, let's see how you like it when we hoist you by your own petards!"
For decades they sulked, they seethed, the analyzed, they schemed. And the anger and determination didn't go away.

ElaineA said:

The March for Science is ON for Earth Day, April 22. As with the Women's March, these will be worldwide. Keep an eye out for your city's event.

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I saw that! I'm stoked. I signed up to volunteer at the DC event, but reading between the lines they seem to have lots of help already. I'm still going to offer, though.

kaitie said:

Isn't Trump also tweeting this morning that the protestors are paid?

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Where's my check then?

As to the OP, CNN is reporting that Conway later clarified that she was referring to two Bowling Green, KY men with refugee status who came to the US in 2009 and were arrested in 2011 on terrorism charges for trying to get weapons to Al Qaeda in Iraq. There was of course no massacre, and no shooting. So, at least she has some claim to being confused and using the wrong words. But words mean things and at this level of public scrutinty "woopsie" doesn't cut it for me.

Alessandra Kelley said:

I think it is important to point out how very important it is to Trump and Putin that protesters shut up and go away.

All the more reason to exercise one's Constitutional rights to assembly and petition and redress of grievance.

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ElaineA said:

The March for Science is ON for Earth Day, April 22. As with the Women's March, these will be worldwide. Keep an eye out for your city's event.

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A national general strike against Trump is being planned for February 17, too, the day before President's Day. Here's their website. There's some big local peaceful protesting plans for that day in a nearby city and I'm trying to figure out how to get myself there to attend.

A friend and I are also making tentative plans to attend the March for Science. It sounds like local plans are being made for a sister march (the turnout for the Women's March in the same area was much larger than expected), so if they also do one for the Science March, we'll be there.