Wanting to use others' words in a new thread post

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Hello.

Recently I followed an AW member's signature line link to an interesting blog post on, very roughly speaking, what constitutes a working writer. I shared the link/post with a poet friend of mine who emailed me a stirring rebuttal. To my eyes, the combination of the two disparate viewpoints, side by side, is stunning.

I would like to start a new thread, with both posts in their entirety. Presumably permission would be needed? The poet said his words were now my words, his gift to me and to where I would display them. Which leaves the AW member. Even though his signature link directs a reader to his post, he would need to actually post the words, or might a PM granting his approval be sufficient? I would certainly attribute both writers' content.

I think this is a topic rife for discussion, and these two viewpoints offer an excellent beginning.

Also, which AW Forum do you suppose?
 

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If somebody shared my work here or anywhere they would be in deep dooky. In fact, I just had an experience with something like that last month with a newspaper correspondent who posted my blog article under "staff writer."
 

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If somebody shared my work here or anywhere they would be in deep dooky. In fact, I just had an experience with something like that last month with a newspaper correspondent who posted my blog article under "staff writer."

Did you miss the part where I said it would be with the writer's permission, and attribution?
 

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Your friend gave you permission; post it. If it's merely an opposing view, you can leave a link to the article--as long as what you post doesn't defame or criticize the other author in any way.

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Aside from possibly ticking someone off, technically it's not illegal. If it's a blog post, it's been made public. That means it can, for the most part, be made public other places with a citation. Am I wrong? Correct me if so.
 

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Did you miss the part where I said it would be with the writer's permission, and attribution?
You said "Presumably permission would be needed?" Sorry.

Aside from possibly ticking someone off, technically it's not illegal. If it's a blog post, it's been made public. That means it can, for the most part, be made public other places with a citation. Am I wrong? Correct me if so.
No. It's called intellectual property and unless you have permission you cannot reproduce it.
 

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You said "Presumably permission would be needed?" Sorry.

No. It's called intellectual property and unless you have permission you cannot reproduce it.

My bad. It's just that I see people quote stuff from the news and other people's websites all the time. It doesn't seem like copying the post, since it's been made public, albeit not in the public domain.

Mentioning that someone posted something, discussing it and then linking to it is of course fine. Whether or not it's in bad taste will be a different issue, I suppose.
 

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This really is a question for the site admins. Send a private message (PM) to anyone listed as a moderator and they should route it to the right people.

I can't comment on the legality, but as a member here I held my breath reading your post. Even though we post links to other websites all the time and discuss the content, something struck me as off about posting two pieces from two different blogs (neither of which is AW) in their entirety and discussing them. Perhaps it's just because I've not seen it done, I don't know. Ignore me if I'm erring on the side of paranoia :)
 

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Hello.

Recently I followed an AW member's signature line link to an interesting blog post on, very roughly speaking, what constitutes a working writer. I shared the link/post with a poet friend of mine who emailed me a stirring rebuttal. To my eyes, the combination of the two disparate viewpoints, side by side, is stunning.

I would like to start a new thread, with both posts in their entirety. Presumably permission would be needed? The poet said his words were now my words, his gift to me and to where I would display them. Which leaves the AW member. Even though his signature link directs a reader to his post, he would need to actually post the words, or might a PM granting his approval be sufficient? I would certainly attribute both writers' content.

If you were to do it, remember you can't quote entire blog-posts here. You have to respect fair use.

And if the AW member who wrote the piece wanted to put it onto AW they would have. They want the discussion on their blog, so I suggest you and your poet-friend continue the discussion there.

Did you miss the part where I said it would be with the writer's permission, and attribution?

You didn't say that.

But even if you had, your comment would be on the edge of appropriate.

I strongly suggest you read The Newbie Guide To Absolute Write in its entirety right now, and cut back on the snark. Thanks.
 

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My bad. It's just that I see people quote stuff from the news and other people's websites all the time. It doesn't seem like copying the post, since it's been made public, albeit not in the public domain.

Mentioning that someone posted something, discussing it and then linking to it is of course fine. Whether or not it's in bad taste will be a different issue, I suppose.

Quoting something, especially something designed for distribution, like a newspaper article, is wholly different from reproducing said thing, even if it is a newspaper article with attribution. You'll notice when people mention an article, they usually link and put up a representative quote, NOT the whole article.

Just because something is posted online doesn't mean it's fair game, in any way. "Been made public" is not a thing. That's like 'well, so-and-so posted this pic publically, on Twitter, so I can use it, right?
 

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Quoting something, especially something designed for distribution, like a newspaper article, is wholly different from reproducing said thing, even if it is a newspaper article with attribution. You'll notice when people mention an article, they usually link and put up a representative quote, NOT the whole article.

Just because something is posted online doesn't mean it's fair game, in any way. "Been made public" is not a thing. That's like 'well, so-and-so posted this pic publically, on Twitter, so I can use it, right?

Well, that's why I said, "albeit not in the public domain." Things on my blog have been made public. But they're not in the public domain. People can't copy my entire post and put it somewhere else, even with a cite. But they can post a snip to show what it's about and link to the rest.
 
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