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[Publisher] Koehler Books (John Koehler)

Rhoda Nightingale

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Hey gang,

Is this the same publisher as Koehler Books? I've been told I'm in close geographic proximity to one of their authors (my mother practically pushed me towards his website, saying, "He writes about vampires just like you!!"), and after learning that it's a POD outfit (at least I think it is?), and they're expecting their authors to do a LOT of the marketing, I'm skeptical. Basically, I think my mom wants me to meet this guy and get him to coach me on How To Get Published, but I don't think this publisher--and by extension, anything this guy can tell me--are what I'm looking for. I'm seeking confirmation that I'm right. OR confirmation that she's right, in which case I'll work on setting up an interview or something.
 

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(Copied from Koehler-Hintz Publishers.)
 

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They get the bare minimum of points for having a homepage geared toward readers and complete staff bios. Also nice to see a diverse company for a change. After these high points things quickly go downhill.

The staff has experience in journalism and advertising, but the closest they come to book publishing is the Cafe Con Leche publisher who also runs Savvy Literary Service.

The website is functional, but far from user friendly. The prices are all over the place. 7.99 for a three year old ebook. 1.99 for a 2014 release. 1.99 for a 2016 #1 Amazon Bestseller. This shows a lack of knowledge about pricing trends. No one really messes around with the 1.99 price point. Readers buy free, 99cents or jump to 2.99. Also the #1 Amazon Bestseller badge is tacky and meaningless. It doesn't belong on the cover.

Those faults are mild compared to what's going on at their imprint Cafe Con Leche. In addition to being a literary agent, the publisher also offers author services. Evaluation, strategy, roadmap and coaching begin at $699 for 30 days. Editorial proofread and review starts at $499 for the first 50k words. A deluxe editing package will set you back $2399 for the first 50k words. Back cover copy is $599.

This is where my brain hamster immediately fell off his wheel and ran into next week. There are inception-level conflicts of interests going on here. Steer clear.
 
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Yeah, the more I poke around their website, the weirder it seems. The page talking about various types of publishing--all of which they presumably offer, including "traditional"--is downright baffling. Either they're a traditional publisher or they aren't. This "collaborative" business is just off.
 

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Although by all appearances disassociated now, be aware that Koehler signed on as the fiction imprint of Morgan James back in '12. (PW article)

Even if they're no longer in business together, you can see where they learned it.