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    Centum Press

    Hi CaoPaux,

    Do you have any information on an anthology publisher called Centum Press? Or know where I could find any? I went to Preditors and Editors and they didn't have anything. Anything will help me. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calliopenjo View Post
    Hi CaoPaux,

    Do you have any information on an anthology publisher called Centum Press? Or know where I could find any? I went to Preditors and Editors and they didn't have anything. Anything will help me. Thank you.
    I'm not the inestimable CaoPaux, but are you talking about this Centum Press? It's an imprint of Allegiant Publishing Group, and there's a somewhat new (and therefore a bit scanty) thread here about them and another of their imprints, Snow Leopard Publishing.

    A quick look at the Centum website shows the usual new publisher's trumpeting of a publishing model that's supposed to be an improvement on "traditional" publishing. In this case, they proclaim that they ACTUALLY PAY ROYALTIES for stories in their anthologies! Imagine that! Something decent publishers have been doing for decades!

    BUT WAIT! There's more! Like this tidbit from the website that explains how their model works:

    Wondering how our model works? Each of our anthologies contains one hundred short stories or pieces of flash fiction, each of which is written by a different author. We don't have a preorder requirement, but our goal is that our authors will work together and with us to make each book a success.
    So what does the royalty structure look like practically?

    • We'll give each author his or her own unique discount code for the books sold on our site and pay him or her 15% of the list price of each book on which his or her discount code was used.
    • We'll split up a 10% royalty among all of the authors who contributed to an anthology on the list price of books on which a discount code wasn't used and on the list price of books that weren't sold through our site.


    Please note that each author's discount code is for ten percent so that his or her fans don't have to pay full price when purchasing from our website. We try to push sales to our website because both we and our authors will make more money from books sold through our site.


    The whole Allegiant/Snow Leopard/Centum/WizardsKeepPublishing (yep, there's a fourth entity, apparently a recent aquisition) empire looks amateurish in the extreme. At Allegiant's main website, they express an interest in acquiring even more small publishing companies, although the actual publishing experience of Allegiant's two principals seems sketchy at best.

    I'd keep well away.

    ETA: I missed one more of Allegiant's imprints: Azure Spider Publications

    So here's the breakdown of all Allegiant's imprints, from their website:


    - Snow Leopard Publishing, which is its flagship imprint and which publishes all genres excepting erotica.
    - Centum Press, which publishing anthologies to which one hundred authors contribute one short story or piece of flash fiction in exchange for real royalties rather than a small, flat fee.
    - Wizards Keep Publishing, a fantasy, science fiction, and paranormal imprint that it acquired from Andretta and Jon Schellinger in early 2016.
    - Azure Spider Pubications, an imprint that we partially acquired for Wizards Keep Publishing in April of 2016 that publishes epic speculative fiction. Wizards Keep Publishing co-owns Azure Spider Publications with founder Victoria Osborne.

    Coincidentally, Ms. Osborne is the sole author listed with Azure Spider.

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    So -- if I've interpreted that correctly -- an author gets 15% of the list price if someone buys the anthology directly from Centrum using that author's code, while the other 99 authors get nothing from that sale.
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    0.1% of the list price of a book sold at another outlet

    Yeah. That's enticing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    So -- if I've interpreted that correctly -- an author gets 15% of the list price if someone buys the anthology directly from Centrum using that author's code, while the other 99 authors get nothing from that sale.
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    0.1% of the list price of a book sold at another outlet

    Yeah. That's enticing.
    The naivete is jaw-dropping.
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    Imagine doing the accounting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Imagine doing the accounting.
    I'm sure they have a computer program set up for doing that.

    Here's how anthologies usually pay their authors:

    An editor pops up who sells an anthology idea to a publisher. The publisher says, "Great idea!" and gives the editor an advance. The editor uses the advance to buy stories.

    The editor turns in the anthology, it's published, goes on sale, and garners royalties in the usual way (15% of the cover price of each copy sold; when more royalties have been collected than the original advance, the overage goes to the editor).

    When/if the anthology has earned out the editor gets a biannual/quarterly/whatever check. The editor keeps half (reward for the work of putting together the anthology). If an agent was involved the agent's percentage comes out of the editor's portion.

    The other 50% goes to the authors in one of two ways (and which it was will have been spelled out in painful detail in the contracts between the authors and the editor). One way is this: Each author get's one share per story. So in an anthology with 100 authors, each would get 1% of the 50% that would be the authors' share. The other way is that the shares are split up by story length, so that if an author's story was 3% of the anthology's word-count, that author would get 3% of the authors' 50%, while another author whose story was 0.5% of the anthology's word-count would get 0.5% of the authors' 50%.

    Centum's plan seems to be designed to screw authors. Not from malice, I'm sure, but rather from ignorance.
    Last edited by James D. Macdonald; 07-19-2016 at 03:01 PM.

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    Thanks everyone. You gave me a lot to consider.

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    Thank you for this! They invited me to consider submitting to them, but I've been burned one too many times to jump right on.

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    I had a piece of flash fiction published in 100 Voices. I was new to publishing and had yet to get paid for a story, so I was excited at the time, but I wouldn't submit to them again. The piece was about 900 words. I ended up getting about $10 in royalties. Since then, I have been in anthologies that pay advances between $10 and $50. Only one has earned royalties beyond the advance. While its not bad for an early publication, or as a last resort for a story you would otherwise post on your blog or keep in your "trunk," I'd either stay away or think of them as a last resort.

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