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    Wolf & Raven Publishing

    Link: http://www.wolfravenpublishing.com/

    Another very new group liking pitches on #PitMad today. I didn't see an AW thread for them, so here's a stump listing for anyone starting to research them.

    So brand-new they have no authors or books listed yet.

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    I would also like to know. They liked one of my pitches, but when I went to their website, they have no authors or anything. I'm debating whether to submit to them or not. I'm not opposed to indie publishing, and I know companies have to start somewhere, but I'm not sure.

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    Still poking about, but I found their FB page and this caught my eye. It's dated May 1st: "The submission window is now open. If you have a YA, NA, Adult novel of 20,000 to 130,000 words in the genres Sci-Fi/Fantasy (and all subgenres), Historical Fiction/Alternate History, or Horror...." Isn't 20k words a little short to be considered a novel? I admit to being a complete and total dinosaur, one who's fairly unfamiliar with e-pubs, but 20K? https://www.facebook.com/wolfravenpublishing/?pnref=lhc
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    Quote Originally Posted by FluffBunny View Post
    Still poking about, but I found their FB page and this caught my eye. It's dated May 1st: "The submission window is now open. If you have a YA, NA, Adult novel of 20,000 to 130,000 words in the genres Sci-Fi/Fantasy (and all subgenres), Historical Fiction/Alternate History, or Horror...." Isn't 20k words a little short to be considered a novel? I admit to being a complete and total dinosaur, one who's fairly unfamiliar with e-pubs, but 20K? https://www.facebook.com/wolfravenpublishing/?pnref=lhc
    Yeah, I think 20k still passes for a novella. I always assumed 50k+ was novel length. Maybe they accept novellas too? But then I'd think they would say that.

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    Still poking. Their domain name registration comes back to a Dawn Price who isn't listed under the "Who We Are" on their webpage, though a Amara Nicole Price is. The registrant address comes back to what appears to be a home in Bethel, Ohio and I'm unable to locate an Ohio business by that name (searching "Wolf and Raven", "Wolf & Raven", "WolfandRaven", "Wolf&Raven", etc.). That's assuming, of course, that they are licensed to do business in the same state as the domain registrant. No other physical location info is available on their website (or I missed it. Totally possible after a long day at work.) Also, they list an "independent editor we like". Clicking the link for said editor, takes you to their FB page where their fees are listed as:
    "UNDER 100K- 250 (GBP OR GBP EQUIVALENT)
    OVER 100K- 300 (GBP OR GBP EQUIVALENT)
    AN UPFRONT PAYMENT OF 50% IS EXPECTED IN FULL BEFORE EDITING BEGINS AND AFTER THE SIGNING OF AN NDA AGREEMENT PROTECTING THE AUTHOR'S WORK. (Should you as the author want one of course) THE REMAINING 50% OF THE EDITING FEE SHOULD BE PAID IN FULL BEFORE RECEIVING THE FINAL CHAPTER EDIT VIA EMAIL." (caps in the original)

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    Hmm. That smells a little like a conflict of interest to me. They are too new, and have too little proven info about themselves, to interest me. I'll check back with them in a couple of years.

    It's worth saying in general about the small new presses in the SFF/Romance genre: they are smack between the Big Five and the larger independents, and the sea of the self-published. If the small presses cannot offer the same level (or better!) editing, cover design, and marketing that the big guns can....what earthly reason does an author have to pick them over self-publishing?

    Publishers have to earn their cut of sales. Too many of these new ones probably never will.

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    A bit late to the party, but this publisher is shuttered from what I can tell. Received a full MS request last month, this month their web presence has completely vanished - social media, website, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by argossol View Post
    A bit late to the party, but this publisher is shuttered from what I can tell. Received a full MS request last month, this month their web presence has completely vanished - social media, website, etc.
    Did you send it to them?

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    The perils of newborn publishers, alas.

    M/M/M contemporary erotic romance novella out now from NineStar Press!

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    The first ten pages, yes. I was a bit excited anyone had wanted to see any of the novel, but a bit of research made me scrub the follow-up.

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    Shortly after that, I received a full request from another small publisher - Curiosity Quills. I'm cautiously optimistic.
    Last edited by argossol; 08-02-2016 at 07:27 PM.

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