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Hi guys! So I noticed that the Horror subforum isn't exactly bustling with activity, so I decided to change that.

Let's talk horror monsters!

Basically, let's talk about our evil creations, exchange notes and tips and see who's scaring who the most!

Why not let's start with me, shall we?

My story is set in Singapore, in which a writer has been called up for military reservist duties (there's conscription in Singapore). But he's been transferred to a new unit in a new camp built on a remote island right at the border of the country's waters.

Cutting the long story short, people started changing in their behavior, becoming more aggressive, violent and greedy. The protagonist was haunted in his dreams (though they may not be dreams) by an entity that looks like some poor sod who's been dismembered and cut up and put together wrong (its torso and legs were facing backwards while its arms and head is facing the right way). It was a rotten thing, all emaciated and dripping with blood and bodily rot-water.

But that's not the end, after from it. To cut the long story short more successfully this time, it's basically about a cosmic-horror Cthulu level deity who claims Southeast Asia as her domain, the island as her palace, and takes pleasure from 'collecting' people, and twisting them and changing them for her amusement. She loves shaking the ship, and watching people scramble for their lives.

And she's been doing it ever since long before time memorial, long before even the old, forgotten civilisations of humanity started uttering their first words.

Her creatures were the result of people succumbing to her psychic influence, or dying and then raised with their flesh reworked in parts or whole. Those that succumbed to her change horrifically, starting with mere bleeding from the eyes and orifices, to necks elongating, toes growing to obscene lengths, twisting and turn such that body parts are all at the wrong places... Or in the worse case, exploding to cover the controls of an Armoured Personnel Transport with muscle fibres and appendages so that he could control it for the amusement of the ancient one.

What do you guys think? I hope I didn't ruin anyone's lunch or sleep. :)
 
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There's quite a bit of Lovecraft inspired icky bug out there (my word for monster-related horror). I like anything icky bug and don't have much interest in human killer types. I only like ghost or supernatural stories if there's some physical alterations involved as well. Slasher stuff is a huge turnoff. Same with torture porn stuff.

I grew up on B-movie creature features and Lovecraft fits right into that, though I don't personally write that style. I've read some that were pretty good though.

I wish you well with it.

As for myself, my icky bugs aren't actually bugs (long story how I got that name), but have supernatural elements that manifest into creatures or something possessed, sometimes humans as well.

All in the tradition of the B-movies, just without the naked chicks that have nothing to do with the plot (plus the hot chick that has sex and is always the first one to die).

Rock on!
 

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There's quite a bit of Lovecraft inspired icky bug out there (my word for monster-related horror). I like anything icky bug and don't have much interest in human killer types. I only like ghost or supernatural stories if there's some physical alterations involved as well. Slasher stuff is a huge turnoff. Same with torture porn stuff.

I grew up on B-movie creature features and Lovecraft fits right into that, though I don't personally write that style. I've read some that were pretty good though.

I wish you well with it.

As for myself, my icky bugs aren't actually bugs (long story how I got that name), but have supernatural elements that manifest into creatures or something possessed, sometimes humans as well.

All in the tradition of the B-movies, just without the naked chicks that have nothing to do with the plot (plus the hot chick that has sex and is always the first one to die).

Rock on!

Lol, I like how you have a personal name for monsters.

Having supernatural elements in your monsters is a good choice. Opens up a lot of possibilities. It's like magic, you get to escape the confines of reality even more, and delay the explanation only right up to the end of the novel/series (just make sure you have an explanation handy at the end). Magic is unexplained science, and so supernatural elements can remain unexplained, and doesn't have to be unrealistic either. It's awesome to slide left and right on the Sci-Fi/Fantasy scale, huh?

But thanks for the vote of confidence. I'm glad that Lovecraftian horror isn't dead yet, even though there's plenty of parody to reduce its effect, to bring it down to the level of the vampire and werewolf.

Also, I forgot to mention that my Cthulu-like Ancient Deity/Cosmic Horror could block out the sun and control the elements in her domain :) As if flesh-sculpted undead horrors aren't enough.
 

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Her creatures were the result of people succumbing to her psychic influence, or dying and then raised with their flesh reworked in parts or whole. Those that succumbed to her change horrifically, starting with mere bleeding from the eyes and orifices, to necks elongating, toes growing to obscene lengths, twisting and turn such that body parts are all at the wrong places.

This is some grade A body horror. That would keep me awake for weeks, and I would probably read it anyways. How quickly do people transform? Can they fight, or are they stuck once she's claimed them?

I tend to stick to sff, but I love making monsters. I've got one that I'm particularly proud of, which is a poorly assembled patchwork of different classical monster -bits (wings, tentacles, sometimes scales, too many arms, too many teeth) crudely grafted together. They only show up in mirrors, and they rip apart people's reflections.
 

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This is some grade A body horror. That would keep me awake for weeks, and I would probably read it anyways. How quickly do people transform? Can they fight, or are they stuck once she's claimed them?

There's no set time for people transforming into one of them night terrors, as I call them. It's up to the whim of the Keeper. They could remain intact forever, even to the point of looking (almost) totally human, or they could explode in a cloud of viscera with with body parts shifting quickly right in front of someone's eyes. Had a girl once who was stuck in the cosmic deity's cavernous domain for two weeks entirely intact, only for her head, spine and gastrointestinal tract to evacuate through the neck to form a floating-head-like creature when approached by the protagonist and his (remaining) squadmates.

Or that time when a stillborn baby still attached via the cord to its dead mother- You know what? Nevermind. I think I've given you enough to last through the night...

Let's just say it decided to make a female soldier's womb its new home, and it crawled in through the mouth. Too bad that the unborn baby it replaced was displaced as a result, though.

Yeah, I better stop typing.

Then there was this once- Yeah, I'll stop.

I tend to stick to sff, but I love making monsters. I've got one that I'm particularly proud of, which is a poorly assembled patchwork of different classical monster -bits (wings, tentacles, sometimes scales, too many arms, too many teeth) crudely grafted together. They only show up in mirrors, and they rip apart people's reflections.

Wow, now that's something new. I've never heard of creatures that assault and kill your reflections before. Now that's something I'd read. They do sound like some kind of an eldritch abomination, no doubt :D
 
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So... No more freaky stuff in the closet?

You know, here's something else to restart the heart of this thread...

Has Lovecraft-inspired eldritch abomination become the 'ultimate' in monsters?

How is creating a monster without drawing on Lovecraftian traditions different?

But most importantly, how do we create a monster that's effective without using Lovecraftian methods?
 

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Ooh, nice, I like your style. And that demon giant sack thing? Awesome.

I've never really thought to create monsters in such a manner before, mixing and matching characteristics of different animals and... Us *gasp*. It gets somewhat technical, your style, and that's a good thing too. Wow, you've opened my eyes so much.

For what I hope would become my debut novel, I basically took a human being and mutilated him/her beyond what even the most depraved serial killers would shake his head and gag at. Well, I guess that's one way of doing things. Now, if I combine that with your method...
 
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I think the big thing that separates Lovecraftian monsters is their sense of scale and the fact that we literally cannot understand them. They are so divorced from us and our reality. And what's more, they do not care about us. They are bigger, scarier, un-comprehendable, and do not see humans or our world as important. We are bugs on their windshield, and that is pretty freaking terrifying when you get down to it.

It seems like the monsters described here fall more on the uncanny valley side of things. They are mutilations of the familiar and normal into something awful. We all have bodies, we can all imagine what it would be like to have them twisted or invaded. It's basically the exact opposite of Lovecraft.

I dunno, I find the two extremes interesting. On the one hand you have something so weird, bizarre, and cosmic then on the other you have something so close to the familiar but in some very significant way it's wrong. And both have great horror potential. Also kind of gets into the mind/body divide. Lovecraft deals much more with horrors of the mind, body horror deals with...bodies. And horrifying things happening to them.

And I don't care how many plushie Cthulus they make, Lovecraft/cosmic horror will always terrify me.
 

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I tried to read Lovecraft and couldn't get into it. On the other side of that, William Hope Hodgson's Night Land is my absolute favorite and I'm particularly fond of Clive Barker.

I wish I had more pics to show but this is what I have so far. One of my favorite monsters of my own creation is Ebb, the stilt-dog Nightmare. She's about 6 ft tall and looks like a skinned dog with her muscles exposed, although the colors are more muted grays and pink. Her feet end in points and her head is round and smooth. Her face is flat and human-like, but the proportions are off, giving her the vacant expression of a beluga whale. And since she's an emotion-eater type of Nightmare, she mimics her prey, namely humans. So, as she comes rushing at you with her impossibly fast feet, from her throat, like a bad radio signal, comes the voice of a mother comforting her child. Previous prey with emotion packed phrases that Ebb liked the delicious sound of and decided to repeat when she gets excited - usually at the sight of other prey.

Some sketches I did of her:

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Her head was too big when I drew it, looked kinda phallic and ridiculous, so when I added paint, I made it smaller:

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I tried to read Lovecraft and couldn't get into it. On the other side of that, William Hope Hodgson's Night Land is my absolute favorite and I'm particularly fond of Clive Barker.

I wish I had more pics to show but this is what I have so far. One of my favorite monsters of my own creation is Ebb, the stilt-dog Nightmare. She's about 6 ft tall and looks like a skinned dog with her muscles exposed, although the colors are more muted grays and pink. Her feet end in points and her head is round and smooth. Her face is flat and human-like, but the proportions are off, giving her the vacant expression of a beluga whale. And since she's an emotion-eater type of Nightmare, she mimics her prey, namely humans. So, as she comes rushing at you with her impossibly fast feet, from her throat, like a bad radio signal, comes the voice of a mother comforting her child. Previous prey with emotion packed phrases that Ebb liked the delicious sound of and decided to repeat when she gets excited - usually at the sight of other prey.

Some sketches I did of her:

Her head was too big when I drew it, looked kinda phallic and ridiculous, so when I added paint, I made it smaller:

Holy smokes, that's freaky! Not unheard of, but definitely one of the more original kinds of monster I've seen so far. If I had to take a guess, these Ebbs are either psychic such that they could affect how people perceive them or supernatural/demonic, considering their appearance, which defies biology.

Oh, the Keeper just texted me. She said she'd be interested in moulding some of her collected humans into the Ebb's form. :) lol awesomesauce!
 

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I kind of go all over the spectrum in terms of what I enjoy. Primal horror really does it for me in a lot of ways. Things like Cujo; that's terrifying because that could actually happen. That could happen to me! And it's a different kind of fear than what you get from supernatural entities. I'm never gonna see a chest-bursting xenomorph in my lifetime, and I wouldn't want to. But the thought of that thing just makes my skin crawl. Then there's this clown that's going around the Carolinas, and I'm like nope. Nope nope nope. Clowns don't even have to be doing creep stuff like that to be terrifying.

Lately, I've been really big on ghosts and folklore monsters though. I've always had a soft spot for werewolves, too.
 

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All but one of my horror-genre yarns feature the human psyche as the 'monster'. As in, 'we' are the monsters. Ideally, the source of the horror is found in the narrator themselves. They freak out when they realize it is 'them all along' who has been the evil thing in the story. The 'shock-of-recognition' is my favorite form of terror.

I tried one story with a complicated, convoluted monster and it was a gut-busting ordeal to make it 'work'. So many loose ends and loopholes to track down and resolve.

Consequently, simple horror is the best for me. I try to take 'the known' and make it unfamiliar, strange, and perverse; I take common situations from everyday-life and show frightening aspects of them. I feel it's the most powerful technique and the most foolproof.

Trying to describe something fantastic or alien--which most readers have never heard of or imagined before--too much work for me! I salute authors who can do that; but it's not where my own skillset lies.
 
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The last time I wrote about a non-human monster, it turned into a buddy story called Scruffles n' Me. It's a novella right now and I'm cleaning it up to sub after NaNo.

And now I realize how hypocritical that is because I used to rant and rave about how we de-monstered the monsters. They're our heroes now and humans are all too often the true monsters. That made me mad but now I sort of get it--my own negative views on humanity are often reflected by others in fiction.

This means I'm going to have to come up with a bad monster that does bad things to go people and needs to be stopped because it's bad.

No more sparkling monsters!
 

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The last time I wrote about a non-human monster, it turned into a buddy story called Scruffles n' Me. It's a novella right now and I'm cleaning it up to sub after NaNo.

And now I realize how hypocritical that is because I used to rant and rave about how we de-monstered the monsters. They're our heroes now and humans are all too often the true monsters. That made me mad but now I sort of get it--my own negative views on humanity are often reflected by others in fiction.

This means I'm going to have to come up with a bad monster that does bad things to go people and needs to be stopped because it's bad.

No more sparkling monsters!
My big thing about this is how fundamentally humans feel compelled to dehumanize:

"Gays are pedophiles!" despite pedophiles being disproportionately straight, "Muslims are terrorists!" despite them being disproportionately victimized by the terrorists who pretend to be on their side, "Blacks kill each other more often than cops kill them!" despite the fact that they're not allowed to get away with it as often as cops are

When I write non-human villains, the fact that they're non-humans is not the thing that's causing the problem.

Even when one species skews more strongly towards disregard for the lives of other people (in my fantasy world, the Orc baseline is about 45% Evil, the HalfHuman/HalfOrc and Psoglav baselines are about 55% Evil, the Human baseline is about 65% Evil, and the Vampire baseline is about 90% evil), there are still individuals of each species who are capable of incredible goodness and compassion. Just not necessarily as many.
 
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When I'm writing monsters, I go for bizarre. My go-to inspiration isn't necessarily Lovecraft, but more Clive Barker and the Silent Hill series. I prefer monsters that end up really twisting your perceptions of reality in a way that's pretty nightmarish.

One example, and this draws heavily from Junji Ito's work, a thing washes up on shore. A shark with transluscent skin that branches arms into the soil. The soil corrodes, maggots start to gather, and people all around it just lose the will to live. They just sit around, letting ever-growing maggots swarm over them...

I dunno, I find that kinda unsettling. But the story didn't sell, so I don't think it was too exciting.
 

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Great thread. I love creating monsters in my series. One I'm writing about at the moment are the Valorcs. They're basically a hybrid of orcs and valkyries. So imagine an orc with wings. :)
 
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