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You know those bibliographies in the back of narrative nonfiction books? Are they necessary? How does a person even keep track of their sources, considering some of these are pages long?

I'm not writing any nonfic right now, but this seems like important info to have. My google-fu is bringing up bibliographies for homework and one possibly-relevant-but-kinda-suspicious article.
 

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Of course they're necessary. If you use another's work, you cite it. You'd likely also need permission to quote anything.

You keep track by keeping track. If you're doing something research-based, you need to be careful.
 

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Of course they're necessary. If you use another's work, you cite it. You'd likely also need permission to quote anything.

You keep track by keeping track. If you're doing something research-based, you need to be careful.

Got it. *nods*

I have so much respect for people who can research things and keep everything organized.
 

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Find and chat up an indexer. That is an underappreciated skill.
 

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In the olden days, I used to record references on index cards as I went along. I've still got file boxes of them and I'm sure I'm not the only one hereabouts with those things taking up storage space. Now it's easy just to enter references into a ready-made database. It's a pain in the neck at the time, but oh my goodness it saves a lot of time and headaches later on.
 

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Although bibliographies are not legally required, especially if sources are cited in the text of a work, academic publishers and respected mainstream publishers generally do require them as a matter of policy. Although unethical, plagiarism per se is not illegal unless it also involves copyright infringement. For example, as plagiarismchecker points out,

William Shakespeare's plays are not copyrighted because they're too old [i. e., they are in the public domain]. Even though it would technically be legal to copy from one of those plays for an English assignment, it would still be plagiarism if you didn't give credit to Shakespeare. Your teacher may not be able to take you to court over it, but she can certainly give you an F. You might even get suspended or expelled from school. Even though copying one sentence from a Web site is legal according to United States copyright laws, that may still count as plagiarism in your teacher's book.

To be safe, it is always best to cite sources in the text (body) of the work and to provide full publishing information in the format required by the discipline involved (e. g., Modern Language Association, American Psychological Association, Chicago Manual of Style, etc.).
 
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