Charlie Sheen announces he is HIV-positive

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This may be true, but it doesn't change anything, imo. I still think it is a) unlikely he told all of his partners in the last four years his status (and it doesn't matter how difficult it is for him to transmit the virus; it's their call to make, not his)

Of course it's their call to make, but why does that make it so unlikely that he told them his status? His status was HIV positive, but his HIV was, and is, undetectable. That makes a huge difference. I'm assuming he didn't just say he was HIV positive but leave out the fact that his viral load was so low that it was undetectable.
 

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Of course it's their call to make, but why does that make it so unlikely that he told them his status? His status was HIV positive, but his HIV was, and is, undetectable. That makes a huge difference. I'm assuming he didn't just say he was HIV positive but leave out the fact that his viral load was so low that it was undetectable.

Even though his viral load is low, do you think the entirety of the 200 people he slept with in the four years since he was diagnosed care about that? I certainly don't think so. Some one , some how would've told sooner if all of them had known. There's no avoiding that not everyone would've accepted being bought off in order to keep their mouths shut, doesn't matter whether he was sleeping with prostitutes or not.
 

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Nothing says he didn't use condoms with anyone. It's possible there were those who would go without and those who wouldn't. I don't know.

This was not though, apparently, much of a secret in the industry; there's an email that came out in the Sony hack that mentioned his HIV status as if it were common knowledge. I can go look for it, but it's between two Sony execs whose names aren't notable. One sent a link to an online thing regarding Sheen's behaviour on the set and the other replies with a reference to the odds on an HIV+ drug addict being able to do 40 eps a year without issue.
 

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Even though his viral load is low, do you think the entirety of the 200 people he slept with in the four years since he was diagnosed care about that? I certainly don't think so.

Yeah, I think they would. I know I would.

Some one , some how would've told sooner if all of them had known. There's no avoiding that not everyone would've accepted being bought off in order to keep their mouths shut, doesn't matter whether he was sleeping with prostitutes or not.

So now we think he must have lied because if he had told the truth, someone would have told the press? That seems a bit presumptuous. He says that some people blackmailed him, but I think a lot of others may just have respected his privacy.
 

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Nothing says he didn't use condoms with anyone. It's possible there were those who would go without and those who wouldn't. I don't know.

This was not though, apparently, much of a secret in the industry; there's an email that came out in the Sony hack that mentioned his HIV status as if it were common knowledge. I can go look for it, but it's between two Sony execs whose names aren't notable. One sent a link to an online thing regarding Sheen's behaviour on the set and the other replies with a reference to the odds on an HIV+ drug addict being able to do 40 eps a year without issue.

That seems to be the case. Before he announced it, all I was hearing was, "Charlie Sheen is going to announce that he has HIV." Many people clearly knew what he was going to say.
 

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I don't see a problem here.
Sheen is best known for the character he 'portrayed' in that awful sitcom.
The more people associate Sheen with that character,
and that character with a sexually contacted and potentially lethal disease...
then, the behavior of the sitcom character might be seen as an irresponsible and dangerous!

-and since we always knew he was type-cast and never had to act for that sitcom role-

It's all good.

It's like perfect.


:Shrug:
 

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I watched an old episode of Two & a Half Men the other day. Charlie was young, healthy and really good looking at that point - I kept wondering when he got it and hoped he told his partners over the years!!
 

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Carlos Estevez is a legend in his own mind.

Apparently lost in the massive Sony e-mail hack that wreaked havoc on Hollywood last winter: this e-mail sent to several Sony Pictures Television executives in March 2014:
“I think I will win the 90/10 bet on the over under on this … it’s hard to to be a drug addict and be HIV positive and do 40 eps (episodes) a year.”


Included was a link to a TV Week article about how Charlie Sheen was a no-show on the set of his FX series “Anger Management,” and crew members were so frustrated they were threatening to quit.


The hacked e-mail amounts to a tasteless joke by an executive, saying that he didn’t expect Sheen to reach the 100-episode mark that would send “Anger Management” into syndication (and create a lucrative windfall for all involved). The 90/10 refers to the “Anger Management” deal that said if 10 episodes did well in the ratings, FX would pick up 90 more. As a reminder, Sheen landed the series, which aired from June 2012 to December 2014, after he imploded and was fired from CBS’s “Two and a Half Men.” The conventional wisdom at the time was that Sheen, known for erratic behavior, would be able to hold it together for 100 “Anger Management” episodes shot in just a couple years. (The show filmed exactly 100 episodes.)

The e-mail indicates that Sheen’s HIV diagnosis was no secret to some in the entertainment industry. And while Sheen’s announcement that he is HIV-positive (and his claims that he spent $10 million trying to keep it quiet) was a huge story this week, a passing reference to the news was out there for two years for anyone to see, be it publications that initially pored over the documents or anyone who dug into the Wikileaks Sony hack page. And yet the story was never revealed.


“Let me ask you about working and your career,” [Matt] Lauer said. “You had a show canceled a couple years ago. You are, I imagine in need of working again … how do you think this revelation might impact your status or standing in Hollywood?”


“As we speak, I have the chairman of Sony excited about doing a show again,” Sheen said. “I have a couple of films lined up that I could, you know, put start dates on. There’s a lot of people that we’ve even told that I’m going to do this [interview] before I came on — privately, of course — and they said, ‘Well, of course… he’s still the best guy for the job.’ ”

“And so thus far,” Sheen concluded, “there’s been no resistance.”