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Hi,

I was reading the website from Churn Digital Publishing, who publishes Kimball Lee (I actually can't tell if they publish anyone else *but* Kimball Lee.) Has anyone had any experience with them?

http://www.churnpublishing.com/

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They talk about publishing services being offered at no cost. That they use this language at all is a problem. Not a fatal one, but a bad sign.

They call an advance a signing bonus.

They've called the company churn. I have friends in start-ups who spend months working out what to call themselves. It's the beginning of a brand identity. That this publisher has chosen a name synonymous with bad publishing, then proceeds to use language often found in bad publishing shows that this publisher doesn't understand the market. They may be a great place to sell a book. They may have a dedicated readership (though I'm SOL if I want to join that readership as I cannot find their books on their site--they talk a lot about promotion but the most basic of promotion is being able to direct an interested, prospective reader to your publisher's page).

Tread lightly.
 

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seems kind of sketchy to me; submit and try to get published for 50% royalties. Or if you want to keep 100% of your royalties or they don't want to sign you, there are self publishing options starting at 99$ per book. I'm pretty sure that's per title, not per copy.
Is it considered kosher to play both sides of the aisle, like that?
 

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I have no idea if offering that option is considered ethical...unless they reject EVERYTHING and then push people to pay to get published. It's just something I found, they weren't listed in QueryTracker or PM and so I was curious. The payout is good but then again 50% of nothing is nothing and if they don't really publicize or do anything for you, you're probably better off keeping 70% and indie-publishing...
 

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Company's run by Lee's son. No sign yet of publishing others.

ETA: Site gone by end of '16. Only published Lee, who continues to self-pub.
 
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