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    Quote Originally Posted by nighttimer View Post
    ... Unless he's sent back to jail ....
    Not likely, he's already out on bail.

    This is interesting, but nonetheless disturbing: It’s good he was arrested and charged with murder, but the Supreme Court made it hard to actually convict trigger-happy police officers.
    Slager will almost certainly be tried before a jury in South Carolina, and this jury will be charged with making a determination as to Slager’s justification in the use of force using criteria articulated by the Supreme Court in Tennessee v. Garner (1985) and Graham v. Connor (1989).
    Garner states that deadly force “may not be used unless necessary to prevent (an) escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others.”
    That prediction in the Daily Beast well over a year ago is so far holding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rugcat View Post
    No prosecutor is going to "throw in the towel" when the jury (if as accurately reported) was voting 11-1 for a conviction. There will be another trial.

    In a retrial, the prosecution almost always has the advantage. The prosecution originally puts on their case, and the defense attempts to poke holes in it or come up with counter theories. The prosecution gets to see what worked and what didn't and adjust their strategy accordingly. If the original jury had questions about certain things, the prosecution now knows to amplify and clarify those areas.

    Why would there be a plea bargain? Well, it all depends on exactly how the rest of jury was split. If nine jurors wanted a guilty verdict on the murder charge and only two of them wanted voluntary manslaughter, the chances of a murder conviction at the next trial are pretty good. Slager really might not want to risk that.

    But if the jury was more evenly split, and the prosecution is unsure whether they will be able to get a conviction on the murder charge, they could well agree to a manslaughter plea.

    Given the video tape evidence, there is no rational way for anyone to believe that Slager is innocent. The question of whether he is guilty of murder or manslaughter is, however, not as clear-cut.

    It is to me; I think this is a clear case of second-degree murder. But there is a rational argument for voluntary manslaughter instead.

    In any case, the probability Slager ending up in prison is extremely high, imo.
    Respectfully--and I mean that with all sincerity--RESPECTFULLY, I disagree.

    I wish I could believe you're right, but I don't. I simply cannot. This isn't like Rodney King getting his ass kicked by LAPD while someone films the incident. This isn't like John Crawford II walking around a Wal-Mart with a toy gun getting shot down by cops. This isn't even like Tamir Rice walking around a park with a toy gun getting shot down by copes.

    Why isn't like any of those recorded on video killings? Because there's no ambiguity in the video of Walter Scott running away (and "running" is perhaps too generous of a description) from Michael Slager. We saw what happened same as over 90 percent of the prospective jurors saw. But all you need is one and the defense found that one juror. Someone who saw a White law enforcement officer take down a lumbering, middle-aged Black suspect and saw nothing wrong with it.

    The lone holdout juror probably wasn't a clandestine KKK member who infiltrated and poisoned the jury pool. It probably was someone who seriously believes a police officer is owed the benefit of the doubt when they pull and discharge their weapon. Cops don't randomly shoot people for the shit and giggles of it. They shoot them for a reason.

    However, one of those reasons is the fear of Black men whom are often depicted as being predisposed to criminality and violence.
    The point is, simply, that the presumption of innocence, a cornerstone of our criminal-justice system, at least in theory, is rivaled by another American tradition — the presumption of guilt that weighs upon black Americans and the devastatingly disproportionate punishments it wreaks upon its victims. It can be seen in the way black men are so often described as hyper-aggressive superhuman threats by prosecutors looking to convict them or police officers seeking to justify a use of force against them.

    Still, that 12 jurors could not reach a unanimous verdict on what would seem to be as clear cut a case as a jury is likely to see is baffling. It must be noted that all the jurors except for one were white. Still, this case had video footage of a police officer calmly raising his gun, carefully taking aim and firing multiple rounds into the back of a fleeing, unarmed man and then handcuffing him as he lay on the ground. Former North Charleston police officer Michael Slager claimed that he was in “total fear” during a struggle between the two men and that Scott had grabbed his Taser. But he was captured on video placing his Taser next to Scott’s lifeless body after the shooting.
    One must wonder: What detail could be added to make Slager look more guilty of Scott’s murder — or at the very least, of manslaughter, an option that was available to the jury?


    It forces one, yet again, to confront the overwhelming evidence that this is a feature of our criminal-justice system, not a bug.
    Your earlier prediction in the OP was pretty cut-and dried: This incident was caught on video by a bystander. I don't see any way this officer will not be found guilty. It is murder pure and simple.

    Unfortunately, it was also wrong. There's no reason to think a second bite of a wormy apple will yield a better result.
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    Update:

    In a dramatic turn of events, a former South Carolina police officer who spent years fighting charges in a high-profile shooting of an unarmed black man pleaded guilty Tuesday in his federal case.Michael T. Slager entered his plea in federal court in Charleston, S.C., more than two years after he fatally shot Walter Scott five times as Scott fled on foot after being pulled over for a broken brake light.

    Slager pleaded guilty to one federal charge of violating Scott’s civil rights. In exchange, two other federal charges against him will be dropped, as will a state murder charge, according to his plea agreement.

    The move allows Slager, who was an officer in North Charleston, S.C., at the time of the shooting, to avoid a jury trial.

    U.S. District Judge David Norton of the federal District Court of South Carolina will decide Slager’s sentence, which could include life in prison. With a guilty plea, Slager has a better chance at a lesser sentence. Under the plea agreement, the federal government will advocate for Slager’s crime to be treated as a lower-level offense.

    Slager entered his plea during a pretrial hearing Tuesday in Charleston. The trial was scheduled for May 15.

    “We hope that Michael’s acceptance of responsibility will help the Scott family as they continue to grieve their loss,” Slager’s lawyer, Andrew J. Savage III, said in a statement.



    Justice is...served?

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    https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/wa...inity_20171207

    20 years for a mans life. He pled guilty to violating his civil rights. One down and too damn many to go.
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    Michael Slager is going to prison and that's where he belongs. If cop killers should be behind bars, killer cops deserve no less.

    Slager is not going to have a lot of fun in prison. Cops never do behind bars. There's a line from Better Call Saul where ex-cop Mike Ehrmantraut tells his daughter-in-law, "You know what a cop fears most? More than getting shot, more than anything? Prison. Getting locked up with everybody you put away."

    What happens next to Slager is probably a long time kept away from the prison general population and a lot of time in segregation. To keep him safe and alive. That's one hell of a punishment, but if Slager can hang tough for the next 20 years (probably less), he can come out safe, if not entirely whole on the other side.

    It's unforgivable what Michael Slager did to Walter Scott. Being shot in the back as you flee in fear? That's an ugly way to go out. But if Scott's family can forgive Slager, I have no recourse but to try to do the same.

    Not that it is going to be easy.

    First came the words of forgiveness, followed by a sentence of retribution: Twenty years behind bars.


    A white policeman who gunned down an unarmed black man received absolution from the victim’s mother Thursday before a federal judge threw disgraced ex-cop Michael Slager in jail for two decades.


    The former South Carolina law enforcer, after hearing from victim Walter Scott’s mother, wiped tears from his eyes as a four-day court hearing came to an emotional end.


    First came the words of forgiveness, followed by a sentence of retribution: Twenty years behind bars.


    A white policeman who gunned down an unarmed black man received absolution from the victim’s mother Thursday before a federal judge threw disgraced ex-cop Michael Slager in jail for two decades.


    The former South Carolina law enforcer, after hearing from victim Walter Scott’s mother, wiped tears from his eyes as a four-day court hearing came to an emotional end.

    “I forgive Michael Slager,” said Judy Scott, facing her son’s killer. “I forgive you. I pray for you, that you would repent and let Jesus come in your life.”

    Slager wept only a few feet away at the defense table. “I’m sorry,” mouthed the disgraced law enforcer who pumped five bullets into Scott’s back after a traffic stop.
    Justice may have been served, but nobody walks away a winner here. It's just a damn tragedy all the way around. It can be argued Walter Scott's actions made things bad. It's inarguable Michael Slager's actions made things far worse.

    Scott suffered more, but Slager will suffer longer. There's a certain symmetry in that I suppose.
    Last edited by nighttimer; 12-08-2017 at 09:13 PM.
    It is a dangerous time to be a black woman in America. It’s a time when we are not safe in the streets or at home or at school or at work and nobody seems to be able to do anything about it. Nobody. Not us. Not our mamas. Not the police. Not the people we elected to look out for our interests. Nobody. We’re just out here.
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