US launches airstrikes against ISIS (QSIS) targets in Syria
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Anybody who thinks air strikes will be enough to end the ISIS horror is living in CloudCuckooLand.
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The quote in the OP mentions that the effort is "ongoing".
The article itself says the strikes are in advance of any ground presence - and that the US has a plan to train Syrian troops for that purpose.
I haven't found a reference in the article of anyone stating that air strikes alone will do it. Have I missed it?
The article itself says the strikes are in advance of any ground presence - and that the US has a plan to train Syrian troops for that purpose.
I haven't found a reference in the article of anyone stating that air strikes alone will do it. Have I missed it?
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No. I don't think you have. I don't think that's been said. By anyone, anywhere. Certainly not by anyone with any idea about the Middle East and all that stuff.
ETA: But, hey - Australia's Jacquie Lambie hasn't weighed in yet....
No. I don't think you have. I don't think that's been said. By anyone, anywhere. Certainly not by anyone with any idea about the Middle East and all that stuff.
ETA: But, hey - Australia's Jacquie Lambie hasn't weighed in yet....
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Yeah, she's a big help.
And she can't even see Lakemba from her house.
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Ah. See, Mr. Mondale, there I go again. Me culpa.
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And she can't even see Lakemba from her house.
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Ah. See, Mr. Mondale, there I go again. Me culpa.
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The press conferences and talk on the Hill and etc., convinced me that we really don't need to have a goal of "end[ing] the ISIS horror."
From Gingrich to Kerry, talking about stuff like 'looking at" people, seeing "evil" and needing to "destroy them," ridding the world of a "cult," etc.
No talk of any actual threats, no talk of actual, planned anything, just the same fucking rhetoric that's trotted out every time this happens.
Air strikes in Syria would've been nice a couple of years and a couple hundred thousand murdered civilians ago too. I don't really see the point of this, particularly, besides yet another mess that's likely to bite the U.S. in the ass sooner or later, because the U.S. can't stop sticking its nose everyplace.
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Oh, no. This is just to show the US's leadership from the air, since leadership from behind has worked so well.
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They already told us that al Qaeda disavowed alliance with ASIS. Now we're targeting ISIS-aligned elements with "seasoned al Qaeda veterans"?
Uh... yeah. ISIS was once part of al Qaeda. I'm not saying it isn't possible. But I feel my credulity stretching a bit nonetheless.
Uh... yeah. ISIS was once part of al Qaeda. I'm not saying it isn't possible. But I feel my credulity stretching a bit nonetheless.
The training of Syrian "moderates" could take a year to complete. Not sure what we do in the interim - can't just bomb them for that long.
And if history is any indication, a year later they'll be the new "extremists" and we'll have to train another group of "moderates" to take them out.
It's unprecedented, seeing a group of Arab nations bomb another Arab nation in an effort with Western powers. That part is really amazing.
I have a pet peeve against headlines everywhere just mentioning the US or US-led and not naming all the other allies involved in these things. I know the list tends to be long, but maybe rotate names or something
In this case, the Arab nations are the ground-breaking part, so I really would name all of them!
Why no other Western powers? It seems so strange. But I'm glad to see Sunni nations go against QSIS. That's key. And amazing.
I have a pet peeve against headlines everywhere just mentioning the US or US-led and not naming all the other allies involved in these things. I know the list tends to be long, but maybe rotate names or something
In this case, the Arab nations are the ground-breaking part, so I really would name all of them!Why no other Western powers? It seems so strange. But I'm glad to see Sunni nations go against QSIS. That's key. And amazing.
It's not that unprecedented. It happened in the first Gulf War. Syria even helped out.
Sorry, I used the word after hearing Christiane Amanpour use it about the situation, but I'm sure she meant unprecedented cooperation or similar now that you mention it
Syria's army was the one I was familiar with in the first Gulf War. Did they do any bombings themselves then?
I wish I knew more about the current military structures of countries in the ME. I'd love to know who has good ground troops and might be likely to use them against QSIS. Outside of Iran, I mean!
I'm also still trying to figure Turkey out in all this. Am I wrong in thinking that the role of the Kurds is huge in Turkey's current position? It might just be their actual vulnerability given this conflict, because that's certainly enough. The freeing of their hostages gives them the green light, so we'll see, I guess!
According to the interview in William's thread "Confessions of an ex-ISIS member", Turkey has it's hands full and it's eyes firmly shut...
"How and why did you end up in Serekaniye (Ras Al-Ain) because I am not sure if it is possible to travel from Al-Raqqa to the Kurdish region these days?
My commander said Kurdish YPG was an infidel secularist army and impure, arguing that each jihadist has the duty to first purify his own people and if we were all pure then infidels would not exit. The commander and others too gave me examples of Palestine and Israel as well as Kosovo and Serbs. They told me jihadists should first fight impure Muslims of Palestine and Kosovo to purify them and this way Israelis and Serbs would not exist. This was argued against my Kurdish people too. I joined a new battalion; we went back to Turkey and crossed the Turkish border to enter Serekaniye.
And what about the Ceylanpinar Turkish border post that is heavily controlled by Turkish soldiers?
They just turned a blind eye.
How?
We were initially told by the IS field commander to fear nothing because there was cooperation with the Turks at the border. The watchtower light caught us and our commander said everybody should stop but do not look at the light. He talked on the radio, then the watchtower light began to move after 8-10 minutes and that was the signal saying we could safely cross the border."
I'm not sure why we bombed buildings at 2 am when they were most likely empty or, most likely, only had a few of our enemy inside. So now the enemy will hide out with civilians - making it much harder to kill them.
U.A.E.’s first female fighter pilot dropped bombs on the Islamic State
Source: Washington Post
"Maj. Mariam al-Mansouri, the first female fighter pilot in the history of the United Arab Emirates, led the the Gulf state's bombing raids over Syria this week. Photos of al-Mansouri, beaming from her cockpit, that were released by the country's state news agency have taken social media by storm."
Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ter-pilot-dropped-bombs-on-the-islamic-state/
Source: Washington Post
"Maj. Mariam al-Mansouri, the first female fighter pilot in the history of the United Arab Emirates, led the the Gulf state's bombing raids over Syria this week. Photos of al-Mansouri, beaming from her cockpit, that were released by the country's state news agency have taken social media by storm."
Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ter-pilot-dropped-bombs-on-the-islamic-state/