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    Freedom Forge Press

    I've found a press listed on Duotrope and Ralan, and their manifesto is very interesting. I've always been a fan of exploring the concept of freedom, to which this press is dedicated to. Any thoughts or experiences with their team?

    Link: http://www.freedomforgepress.com/


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    Their blog posts don't sound very nonpartisan, imho. I don't know enough to be able to say much else.
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    It reads very 'Tea Party' to me, but that was at a cursory glance.

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    The founder has no publishing experience, and although the editor appears to be generally qualified, she also has no actual experience working for a publisher and has a difficult, time-consuming day job (English teacher).

    'Publisher' is not a part-time job, and people with no industry experience tend not to end up with successful presses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Filigree View Post
    It reads very 'Tea Party' to me, but that was at a cursory glance.
    Yeah, it basically sounded that way to me, too. You can't say you want something "nonpartisan" and then basically ask for stuff of a particular party. It doesn't get to be nonpartisan just because you left off the name.

    Anyway, annoyance at their dishonest mission statement aside, I'm not sure even if they had the experience that I'd want to go for a publisher like this. They're looking for books that promote a particular ideology. They might actually sell well among people who believe the same thing, but in my experience books written to make a point aren't usually very good books.

    From a personal perspective, because they have a very narrow definition of what they're looking for (reading the comments on their blog is enlightening as well), I wouldn't want to be associated with them because I'd worry about alienating readers in the future.


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    I actually give them points for being fairly honest about the kinds of submissions they want. They are far from nonpartisan, and the terms they use are standard 'code' to attract attention from like-minded writers and readers. I am not likely to send them anything, but I appreciate a publisher who gives fair warning.

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    I'm reaching, but could references to non-partisan be an attempt to deny any formal relationship with an actual political party? It occurs to me that such a relationship could have tax ramifications they don't want.

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    I don't think the discussion about what kind of material they're looking for is actually relevant. If a writer writes that kind of material, what they need to know is whether this is a good publisher for them to submit to.
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    True. Looking at the store page, it doesn't seem like they've got much out. I don't know whether or not that's a good thing? But the covers look kind of amateurish to me.
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    If this ideology is your cup o' tea then the things I see that they're not clear on are what rights they're taking and how much they're paying on the anthologies, novels and novellas. I'm assuming that would all be covered in the contract, but I would just make sure that the part under "Unpaid Submission Opportunities" that says "FFP is looking for people who want to write stories (real or fiction) about freedom and liberty" is truly only referring to blog posts.
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    Thought I drop a note in here and provide an update for anyone looking at this press.

    I sold a sci-fi short story to them for their 1st anthology back in 2013. The anthology has since been published. Authors received a $10 check advance against royalties (which cleared!), contributor's copy, and we all have a (very, very small) royalty. Perhaps no surprise, but almost a year later and the royalty isn't anywhere near the $10.

    The editors were prompt to emails, questions, friendly, etc. Edits I received to my story were mostly grammar, few word choices, no major changes to the story. Overall it was easy to work with them. However, as others have noted here, they do have a certain political philosophy. I haven't had any dealing with them since so I don't know if my information is out of date.

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    Oh, huh, this is the press of a guy in my critique group, wrote the non-anthology book on their sales page. He seems happy with them and his experience so far. I can update if anything changes.
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    Hi guys,

    I have a story in their upcoming anthology. At first I wasn't sure if it would be considered because the setting behind it was apocalypse themed, but they did take it. Also, they set deadlines, meeting them, and follow up if the author is late on response. Considering that I am also waiting on two projects that are overdue with other publishers this is a huge plus. I'll let you know how it goes
    Last edited by Topaz044; 08-24-2014 at 05:53 AM.

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    Hi, just thought I might help here.
    My fist book was just published (June 16) by Freedom Forge, and I can tell you without the slightest reservation, they're very good people to work with. If they can be said to have any sort of fault at all it is in a lack of experience, but they are learning fast, and hell... even Random House had to start somewhere. Eric and Val are the BEST, and i would not hesitate a moment to recommend them to anyone.

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    I checked out Amazon, saw an interesting book "Grandchildren of Liberty" which looks like something I would have devoured when 15.

    The author seems a "Heinlein cover band"--but so many people are, it's a legitimate subgenre. The general output of world class respectable publishers like Baen reads like nothing happened after Poul Anderson, Murray Leinster, and Heinlein, and this is fine.

    (...I wish there were more Brian Aldiss and Philip K Dick and Clifford Simak cover bands, though, but it's one thing to be influenced by and to reproduce AC/DC, and quite another--Hendrix...)

    The Kindle version appears to be selling...not well...thus far, and the paperback is priced somewhat surprisingly, considering these are people from a subgroup that is known to claim to grasp clearly and deeply the glorious mechanics of supply and demand. Could be early day miscalculations, or a general counter-productive turbo-ego thing, time will tell.

    I wish the author all the best, and the publisher too. Quite likely this one will stabilize as another 'demo publisher' where one makes one's chops before moving on to bigger venues, or where one publishes one's hobby joys--it's good to have such ventures. As long as what's what and what's not is clear to all new authors.
    Last edited by dondomat; 08-19-2014 at 07:17 AM.

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    Thank you so much for your kind good-wishes. but my opinion of the company stands.

    As to the cover price, it's a function of a small print run... as i said, we are both just getting started.

    Any other gems of wisdom you would care to bestow from your elevated position of great experience?
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    Temper, temper, sentence number three ruins everything

    This is a writer's forum, and people will constantly give advice and opinion--asked and unasked, for your sake and for other people's sake, neutral and biased--so get used to it, clamp down on the knee-jerk, and sift for useful stuff and ignore what you deem useless.

    Want it or not, as an enthusiastic author, you're currently a public representative of the publisher, and what you say and how you behave will color everything.

    Good luck.

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    Sorry i thought i was simply replying in kind... and perhaps your right. sentence three might have been a tad over the top.
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