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    On the Evil Conspiracies the US Gov Has Already Done

    There's a thread on the rather silly (and yet shockingly distasteful) Conspiracy Theory (CT) that the Sandy Hook tragedy was staged by the government in a bid to force gun control. A couple of our members made comments that I felt the need to respond to, but that I could not, in good conscience post on that thread, as even I find that CT offensive. However, our own Colorado Guy had this to say in general about CT's in that thread:

    Posted by ColoradoGuy:The incredible disconnect these folks have toward government efficiency is always amazing: government is horribly inefficient at most things (grumble, grumble, Post Office, growl VA) yet fantastically skilled at keeping secret vast conspiracies involving hundreds of participants.
    And Opty responded:

    Posted by Opty: Indeed. The government can cover up things up if it is incredibly intricate and involves dozens, if not hundreds, of people but three people can't keep a Presidential blowjob a secret.
    Sadly, history tells another story:

    1931 Dr. Cornelius Rhoads, under the auspices of the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Investigations, infects human subjects with cancer cells. He later goes on to establish the U.S. Army Biological Warfare facilities in Maryland, Utah, and Panama, and is named to the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission. While there, he begins a series of radiation exposure experiments on American soldiers and civilian hospital patients.

    1940 Four hundred prisoners in Chicago are infected with Malaria in order to study the effects of new and experimental drugs to combat the disease. Nazi doctors later on trial at Nuremberg cite this American study to defend their own actions during the Holocaust. 1942 Chemical Warfare Services begins mustard gas experiments on approximately 4,000 servicemen. The experiments continue until 1945 and made use of Seventh Day Adventists who chose to become human guinea pigs rather than serve on active duty. ....

    1945 Project Paperclip is initiated. The U.S. State Department, Army intelligence, and the CIA recruit Nazi scientists and offer them immunity and secret identities in exchange for work on top secret government projects in the United States. ....

    1946 Patients in VA hospitals are used as guinea pigs for medical experiments. In order to allay suspicions, the order is given to change the word "experiments" to "investigations" or "observations" whenever reporting a medical study performed in one of the nation's veteran's hospitals. 1947 Colonel E.E. Kirkpatrick of the U.S. Atomic Energy Comission issues a secret document (Document 07075001, January 8, 1947) stating that the agency will begin administering intravenous doses of radioactive substances to human subjects. 1947 The CIA begins its study of LSD as a potential weapon for use by American intelligence. Human subjects (both civilian and military) are used with and without their knowledge.

    1950 Department of Defense begins plans to detonate nuclear weapons in desert areas and monitor downwind residents for medical problems and mortality rates. ....1950 I n an experiment to determine how susceptible an American city would be to biological attack, the U.S. Navy sprays a cloud of bacteria from ships over San Franciso. Monitoring devices are situated throughout the city in order to test the extent of infection. Many residents become ill with pneumonia-like symptoms.

    1953 CIA initiates Project MKULTRA. This is an eleven year research program designed to produce and test drugs and biological agents that would be used for mind control and behavior modification. Six of the subprojects involved testing the agents on unwitting human beings. 1955 The CIA, in an experiment to test its ability to infect human populations with biological agents, releases a bacteria withdrawn from the Army's biological warfare arsenal over Tampa Bay, Fl. ...1994 Senator John D. Rockefeller issues a report revealing that for at least 50 years the Department of Defense has used hundreds of thousands of military personnel in human experiments and for intentional exposure to dangerous substances. Materials included mustard and nerve gas, ionizing radiation, psychochemicals, hallucinogens, and drugs used during the Gulf War . 1995 U.S. Government admits that it had offered Japanese war criminals and scientists who had performed human medical experiments salaries and immunity from prosecution in exchange for data on biological warfare research. 1995 Dr. Garth Nicolson, uncovers evidence that the biological agents used during the Gulf War had been manufactured in Houston, TX and Boca Raton, Fl and tested on prisoners in the Texas Department of Corrections....

    The MK-Ultra Program took about 6% of the CIA's budget from 1953 to 1971. CIA insiders claim the project is off the books but still goes on.

    My point being, don't be too quick to dismiss any and all CT's, because some of them have happened, have been done on American citizens by their own government, in secret, and somehow, most of this stuff didn't come to light until relatively recently. It does happen and it will continue to happen.

    There is no reason to trust a government that has and does engage in war crimes on its own people.

    I do wish people would allow the facts to get past their mental prejudices and preferences, and accept that your government does engage in conspiracies, all the fucking time. It is not impossible to keep things, even outright evil things secret for a while.

    That said, Sandy Hook is just the government and its media lackey's taking advantage of a terrible tragedy, imo.
    Last edited by Diana Hignutt; 01-15-2013 at 04:19 PM.
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