The Descent of Man: Are men going the way of the dodo?

Romantic Heretic · Apr 3, 2012

I was going to make a long post refuting the OP's utter idiocy but a single smiley will do.

:rolleyes

RichardGarfinkle · Apr 3, 2012

Zoombie said:
I planned an invasion too...

But then my friend Jay used a drop pod to put a squad of sternguard Space Marines in my flanks and shot up my boyz! My Waaagh was short lived and very sad.

Since these were space orks, does this make me at least part Fungus in Heinlein's eyes?

Cheer up. Eventually, the Space Marines will all be consumed by the Machine God on Mars and turned into the new Necrons and your Orks will have an equally unstoppable army to fight against until the Tyranids conquer everything.

But, hey, I'm an optimist.

( I don't play, but my kids and my nephews do).

Romantic Heretic · Apr 3, 2012

Zoombie said:
The same thing that happened when technology increased productivity and decreased the amount of work required in any field throughout the entirety of human history.

Vast improvements in standards of living.

After long periods of social upheaval, revolutions, increases in crime and the relegation of large sections of the population to mere cogs in the machine.

There should be a better way.

Xelebes · Apr 3, 2012

Romantic Heretic said:
After long periods of social upheaval, revolutions, increases in crime and the relegation of large sections of the population to mere cogs in the machine.

There should be a better way.

Going stright from nomadic to industrial does pose just as significant problems.

Zoombie · Apr 3, 2012

Romantic Heretic said:
After long periods of social upheaval, revolutions, increases in crime and the relegation of large sections of the population to mere cogs in the machine.

There should be a better way.

EDIT: Sorry, I misread your post!

And, see, those past roadbumps (and they were nasty, nasty roadbumps!) should helpfully and hopefully teach us how to try and make our next big transition less...painful.

Fingers crossed!

mario_c · Apr 3, 2012

Real Men* enjoy a conversation like this.

Because the question posed doesn't bother them** - they know their role in the world, and there are those who love them and respect them for that and for who they are. Why, don't you?

*for lack of a better term
**I hope to be that sort of real man. Is it wrong for me to want that?

NoGuessing · Apr 4, 2012

RichardGarfinkle said:
Pardon me for being harsh and unmacho.

The cultural attitudes being defined as masculine here, which I usually call being macho are the attitudes of teenage boys. That pushy, trying to assert power, playing king of the hill sort of thing. The 'alpha male' idea. That's biologically unsound among other things since our species doesn't have a biggest horns means being the only one who gets to mate.

In any case. At the core of this attitude is a combination of fear, pride, and an unwillingness to see women as human beings worthy of individual respect.

What some call losing masculinity, I call growing up.

Hahaha, this, so much.

The Descent of Man: Are men going the way of the dodo?

Romantic Heretic

uncoerced

RichardGarfinkle

Nurture Phoenixes

Romantic Heretic

uncoerced

Xelebes

Delerium ex Ennui

Zoombie

Dragon of the Multiverse

mario_c

Your thoughts are not real...

NoGuessing

Buzz