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Last October, Carrie accepted my flash fiction for her anthology, Fish. I was thrilled about this at first, as it was my first semi-pro acceptance and I would be in the company of writers I had actually heard of before! However, things took an unfortunate turn when I failed to receive my copy of the signed contract. Carrie told me she would send me a pdf, but never did. After a month had gone by and a reminder email was ignored, I decided I needed to write another email and word it a little more strongly to get her attention. After all, my earlier, walking-on-eggshells attempts had failed.
Carrie found my email so offensive that she dropped me from the anthology, one scant month before the book was to come out.
I think she's treated me very shabbily. She seems to think I'm the one who's at fault. So I'll post the emails here in their entirety and let everybody decide for themselves.
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 16:10:28 -0400
Subject: Re: [FISH] Contract update and FISH interview
From: Vivian Unger
To: Carrie Cuinn
Hi Carrie,
I haven't received the copy of the contract signed by you. Did you
mail that yet? Since the book is supposed to come out pretty soon, I
thought I'd better check on that.
Thanks,
Vivian
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:39:31 -0500
Subject: Re: [FISH] Contract update and FISH interview
From: Carrie Cuinn
To: Vivian Unger
Vivian,
I did mail it to you, did you ever get it? Would it be all right if I send
you a pdf of the signed/scanned copy?
Carrie Cuinn
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 14:48:59 -0400
Subject: Re: [FISH] Contract update and FISH interview
From: Vivian Unger
To: Carrie Cuinn
Hi Carrie,
I never got it (maybe it's still on it's way; the mail can be slow
here), and it's fine if you send me a pdf of the signed copy.
Thanks,
Vivian
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:25:21 -0400
Subject: Re: [FISH] Contract update and FISH interview
From: Vivian Unger
To: Carrie Cuinn
Hi Carrie,
I still haven't received the contract. How about that PDF copy?
Thanks,
Vivian
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 22:22:19 -0400
Subject: STILL NO CONTRACT
From: Vivian Unger
To: Carrie Cuinn
Carrie,
A month ago, you offered to send me a pdf copy of the signed contract,
since I'd not received a print copy, and I agreed to that. Two weeks ago,
having still received nothing, I sent another email, asking for the pdf
copy, and received no response. This concerns me. I am losing confidence in
your intention to pay me and provide contributor copies as laid out in the
contract, because I still don't have a copy of the contract with your
signature, the book is due out at the end of the month, and you have
ignored my last two emails on the subject. Please respond. It doesn't have
to be a pdf, if that's too much trouble; a jpeg or other image format would
do.
Thank you,
Vivian Unger
Subject: Re: STILL NO CONTRACT
From: Carrie Cuinn
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 21:48:24 -0500
To: Vivian Unger
Ms. Unger,
While I don't know why you didn't receive a copy of your contract, since none of the other authors have had this problem, I can get you a PDF scan of it.
However, because I did not get it to you in the last two weeks, you now tell me that I won't pay you or give you contributor copies?
There's no need to be so insulting.
I'll scan the contract tomorrow.
C. Cuinn
Subject: Re: STILL NO CONTRACT
From: Vivian Unger
To: Carrie Cuinn
Not two weeks. A month. Two emails and a month. It's just plain rude and
disrespectful to ignore people like that. I'm sorry you don't understand
that, Ms. Cuinn.
Vivian Unger
From: Carrie Cuinn
Subject: Re: STILL NO CONTRACT
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 12:53:08 -0500
To: Vivian Unger
Yes, I was delayed in getting you a digital copy of a contract that I had already sent you, you already signed and returned to me, and which I mailed you a hard copy of. That's true, and that's my failing.
However, that's a far cry from deciding I plan to steal your work, publish it, and refuse to compensate you for it.
At this point, Dagan Books will not be publishing your story. All rights are returned to you, your information will be removed from out website, and your story will not appear in FISH.
Carrie Cuinn
Carrie found my email so offensive that she dropped me from the anthology, one scant month before the book was to come out.
I think she's treated me very shabbily. She seems to think I'm the one who's at fault. So I'll post the emails here in their entirety and let everybody decide for themselves.
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 16:10:28 -0400
Subject: Re: [FISH] Contract update and FISH interview
From: Vivian Unger
To: Carrie Cuinn
Hi Carrie,
I haven't received the copy of the contract signed by you. Did you
mail that yet? Since the book is supposed to come out pretty soon, I
thought I'd better check on that.
Thanks,
Vivian
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:39:31 -0500
Subject: Re: [FISH] Contract update and FISH interview
From: Carrie Cuinn
To: Vivian Unger
Vivian,
I did mail it to you, did you ever get it? Would it be all right if I send
you a pdf of the signed/scanned copy?
Carrie Cuinn
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 14:48:59 -0400
Subject: Re: [FISH] Contract update and FISH interview
From: Vivian Unger
To: Carrie Cuinn
Hi Carrie,
I never got it (maybe it's still on it's way; the mail can be slow
here), and it's fine if you send me a pdf of the signed copy.
Thanks,
Vivian
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:25:21 -0400
Subject: Re: [FISH] Contract update and FISH interview
From: Vivian Unger
To: Carrie Cuinn
Hi Carrie,
I still haven't received the contract. How about that PDF copy?
Thanks,
Vivian
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 22:22:19 -0400
Subject: STILL NO CONTRACT
From: Vivian Unger
To: Carrie Cuinn
Carrie,
A month ago, you offered to send me a pdf copy of the signed contract,
since I'd not received a print copy, and I agreed to that. Two weeks ago,
having still received nothing, I sent another email, asking for the pdf
copy, and received no response. This concerns me. I am losing confidence in
your intention to pay me and provide contributor copies as laid out in the
contract, because I still don't have a copy of the contract with your
signature, the book is due out at the end of the month, and you have
ignored my last two emails on the subject. Please respond. It doesn't have
to be a pdf, if that's too much trouble; a jpeg or other image format would
do.
Thank you,
Vivian Unger
Subject: Re: STILL NO CONTRACT
From: Carrie Cuinn
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 21:48:24 -0500
To: Vivian Unger
Ms. Unger,
While I don't know why you didn't receive a copy of your contract, since none of the other authors have had this problem, I can get you a PDF scan of it.
However, because I did not get it to you in the last two weeks, you now tell me that I won't pay you or give you contributor copies?
There's no need to be so insulting.
I'll scan the contract tomorrow.
C. Cuinn
Subject: Re: STILL NO CONTRACT
From: Vivian Unger
To: Carrie Cuinn
Not two weeks. A month. Two emails and a month. It's just plain rude and
disrespectful to ignore people like that. I'm sorry you don't understand
that, Ms. Cuinn.
Vivian Unger
From: Carrie Cuinn
Subject: Re: STILL NO CONTRACT
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 12:53:08 -0500
To: Vivian Unger
Yes, I was delayed in getting you a digital copy of a contract that I had already sent you, you already signed and returned to me, and which I mailed you a hard copy of. That's true, and that's my failing.
However, that's a far cry from deciding I plan to steal your work, publish it, and refuse to compensate you for it.
At this point, Dagan Books will not be publishing your story. All rights are returned to you, your information will be removed from out website, and your story will not appear in FISH.
Carrie Cuinn