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    The Walking Dead and Scott Pilgrim are both minor masterpieces, but the overwhelming sense of the US market I get is one of fear - there hasn't for example, been anything as ambitious as Cerebus (however badly that ended up), nor as groundbreaking as Maus or Palestine in ages. The same titles keep getting regurgitated with slightly different flavors, and the entire market is shrinking as people wonder why there aren't more readers...

    On a related note, I really detest the shiny paper which sticks to my fingers, and leaves unsightly marks on the page. I tend to stick to golden age or silver age comics when I go on spending binges to avoid buying something which is destroyed in the process of enjoying it.
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    I'm actually toying with the idea of trying to make a digital migration in comics. I've got... well, not an ungodly, but a hell of a lot of graphic novel compilations taking up a lot of shelf space, and a move out of our apartment and into our first home is driving home the point of just how much space those precious comics take up once you start looking for boxes to pack them in.

    Also, for the record, since I'm Canadian, both Cerebus and Scott Pilgrim are products of Canucks, not Americans.

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    LOL. The rest of the world does not make the Canadian/American distinction. (my bad, seeing as I should be more exacting in such matters). There's great filing cabinets from the late eighties which fit about a thousand GN's in them, and I have five in my shed. Packing those up is going to be a nightmare...

    I love the idea of digital comics, but I've only seen about a dozen which I would consider keeping in that format. Too often people go by the comic page dimensions and ignore the screen dimensions (and scrolling up and down the screen to read a conversation is a deal breaker, IMO).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigWords View Post
    The rest of the world does not make the Canadian/American distinction.
    Think of it like the England/Scotland distinction, except historically instead of us constantly slaughtering Canadians, we just subject them to our television.
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    Yes. US Media...


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    Quote Originally Posted by zanzjan View Post
    Think of it like the England/Scotland distinction, except historically instead of us constantly slaughtering Canadians, we just subject them to our television.
    We gave you Bryan Adams and Nickelback. I think that clears any debts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigWords View Post
    Yes. US Media...


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigWords View Post
    The Walking Dead and Scott Pilgrim are both minor masterpieces, but the overwhelming sense of the US market I get is one of fear - there hasn't for example, been anything as ambitious as Cerebus (however badly that ended up), nor as groundbreaking as Maus or Palestine in ages. The same titles keep getting regurgitated with slightly different flavors, and the entire market is shrinking as people wonder why there aren't more readers...
    Wait. You're saying they keep reissuing old crap for our consumption? No way. No how.*


    *These statements totally don't count recent remakes of: Fright Night, 21 Jump Street, Total Recall, Dirty Dancing, Footloose, Freaking Three Stooges, etc. Screw it, here's A-M (probably not all US).

    Quote Originally Posted by BigWords View Post
    Yes. US Media...


    *runs away from thread as fast as possible*
    In all fairness, South Park isn't exactly the standard to which all US media is held. That's The Simpsons. TYVM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifferbugz View Post
    Wait. You're saying they keep reissuing old crap for our consumption? No way. No how.
    Um... Crap. Okay. In a nutshell - yeah.

    To elucidate - nothing which has appeared in mainstream (read: superhero) comics in the last decade has advanced the language of the form significantly, and in fact some of the titles I have read seem to be debasing the form. There are exceptions, but few and far between.

    It isn't a criticism limited to comics. Is there a game show which has pushed the boundaries of the format in recent years? No. We get the same thing handed to us with shinier sets, more infantile presenters (a fetus is going to be presenting something soon at this rate), and dumber questions.

    The problem here isn't with the publishers and broadcasters, it is entirely with the audience - we should refuse to accept second-hand entertainment, and demand higher standards. If everyone stopped buying things out of habit and looked for quality (and there are great works out there if you look hard enough) then the entire market improves.

    Habits kill inventiveness. Originality suffers. We get yet another rehash of something which wasn't blisteringly brilliant the first time.
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    Yeah...I was actually agreeing with you. My bad if that didn't come across.



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    Y'know, I write stuff like this and for the next week have to fend off e-mails from people whining that I'm being mean and insulting their "favoritest thing EVER"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigWords View Post
    Y'know, I write stuff like this and for the next week have to fend off e-mails from people whining that I'm being mean and insulting their "favoritest thing EVER"...
    It's impossible that mixing Star Wars and Office Space could be anything but awesome. (Not 100% sure that's what you were even talking about, btw.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifferbugz View Post
    In all fairness, South Park isn't exactly the standard to which all US media is held. That's The Simpsons. TYVM.
    So true.

    Also, I was reading the 'news' yesterday. It said that someone called Jessica Simpson had had a baby. I'm going 'Bart, Lisa, who was she?' It's not just the media. I think American life is judged by the Simpsons now.

    And in the USA / Canada debate. I know the difference, but that's because at school we were taught that we used to own it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigWords View Post
    Y'know, I write stuff like this and for the next week have to fend off e-mails from people whining that I'm being mean and insulting their "favoritest thing EVER"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjwriter View Post
    I am home today from work since I'm supposed to be contagious. I hope I feel better soon. I'm not feeling as good as I thought I would this morning though.
    and I hope you feel better soon. Just pretend you are incubating the plague that will bring the end of the world and maybe you'll feel a bit better.

    Just imagine meeting all those annoying people you don't like and coughing on them or shaking their hand.


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    I leave for less than a day and we get another new name?

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    Upside: Avengers this weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aliwood View Post
    So true.

    Also, I was reading the 'news' yesterday. It said that someone called Jessica Simpson had had a baby. I'm going 'Bart, Lisa, who was she?' It's not just the media. I think American life is judged by the Simpsons now.

    And in the USA / Canada debate. I know the difference, but that's because at school we were taught that we used to own it.

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    Coffee should come first, I agree.

    This may be embarrassing, I don't know, but....

    Who is Jessica Simpson?

    I've been here long enough without American TV that I have no idea who that is. I have heard the name before, but haven't felt a need to do an intensive google project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoeless View Post
    We gave you Bryan Adams and Nickelback. I think that clears any debts.
    Yes, but we owe you still for Shatner.


    However you want to interpret that debt.

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    ďBut I donít want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
    "Oh, you canít help that," said the Cat. "Weíre all mad here. Iím mad. Youíre mad."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Debio View Post
    This may be embarrassing, I don't know, but....

    Who is Jessica Simpson?
    I went and looked in the end. She's no one important that you need worry about. And don't be embarassed. I had no idea who she was either which is why I originally thought that she was yellow with four digits on each hand and two-dimensional.

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    Confetti party!

    I must finish watching the banana vid later.


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    Good morning friends!

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    morning all ... another day, another rejection. and now off to work. That's kinda of adding insult to injury don't you think?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CobraMisfit View Post
    Yeah, that's going in The Quote Book.
    There's a record being taken of discussion... Oh dear lord.

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    Yes, but we owe you still for Shatner.
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