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Thread: Authors should really stop telling readers how to give reviews

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubastes View Post
    In this week's WTFery, it's reviewers behaving badly. A review blog takes an author to task for daring to out their policy of charging $95 per review. I can confirm the blogger's story: when I requested a review several weeks ago, they sent me the same form e-mail. Although the author deleted the review blog's name from the post, it's still clear from the comments which review blog it is:

    http://michelegormanwriter.blogspot....r-reviews.html

    http://www.eroticromancepublishers.c...-per-star.html
    I'm most amused by the fact that the site researches the author and the book to find out whether they can give a 4-5-star rating. What's the point of reviewing? (Oh, right, to get money)
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    That is so horrible. I can't imagine being afraid in my own home because I didn't like a BOOK. What is wrong with these people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisteria Vine View Post
    That is so horrible. I can't imagine being afraid in my own home because I didn't like a BOOK. What is wrong with these people?
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    Whoa. Escalation to phone calls should totally call for law enforcement being involved.
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    I agree. I hope the victims DO something to start a paper trail with law enforcement. This is unbelievable.

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    Wow, I felt my stomach drop when I read that post on GR. That is utterly terrifying. I hope that Lucy does contact the police.
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    I'm trying to understand this...

    Are the folks responsible for the reviewer-bullying (the authors) known? Are they Big 6 published? Indie published? Self-published?

    Not that it makes much difference, likely, but... I'm curious.

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    I don't leave reviews.... don't see the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willietheshakes View Post
    I'm trying to understand this...

    Are the folks responsible for the reviewer-bullying (the authors) known? Are they Big 6 published? Indie published? Self-published?

    Not that it makes much difference, likely, but... I'm curious.
    It can make a huge difference. I know of at least one major publisher (not a big 6, but still tied to a huge corporation) that gives its authors a multi-page "guide" for how to conduct oneself on line so as not to embarrass the company or its mousely overlord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyia View Post
    It can make a huge difference. I know of at least one major publisher (not a big 6, but still tied to a huge corporation) that gives its authors a multi-page "guide" for how to conduct oneself on line so as not to embarrass the company or its mousely overlord.
    (Psst - I was trying to be tactful, and not leap to any conclusions based on nothing more than suspicion and lingering bias.)

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    I have no idea who any of the involved parties write for, or if their publishers have similar "guides," but it's something to consider when the urge to hit "submit" strikes. Big corporations don't like to be embarrassed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubastes View Post
    Aaaaaand, the GR bully thing has escalated:

    http://www.goodreads.com/story/show/...-to-be-stalked

    ETA: And yet there are actually people who defend what the site is doing. The comments are mind blowing, and I didn't even bother to read them all:

    http://dearauthor.com/features/lette...iews/#comments
    This is freaking me out! I don't understand how this has escalated so that some reviewers actually don't feel safe in their own homes anymore Very sad, and also scary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubastes View Post
    Aaaaaand, the GR bully thing has escalated:

    http://www.goodreads.com/story/show/...-to-be-stalked
    Holy. Friggin'.Shit.


    Quote Originally Posted by willietheshakes View Post
    I'm trying to understand this...

    Are the folks responsible for the reviewer-bullying (the authors) known? Are they Big 6 published? Indie published? Self-published?

    Not that it makes much difference, likely, but... I'm curious.
    Lucy mentioned 'a woman' behind the site - and I'm curious to know if it's the same awful creature who recently 'outed' another GR reviewer on their own blog in a similar fashion?
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    This is well beyond acceptable behavior.

    At this point I am hoping police or FBI involvement may give pause to anyone out there who may be tempted to copy these tactics.

    And exactly who is behind this site is known. It is not difficult to get the information. I was PM'ed the site owner's name and home address by another AWer who tracked it down. It is not nearly so possible to be an anonymous attacker as some people seem to think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alessandra Kelley View Post
    This is well beyond acceptable behavior.

    At this point I am hoping police or FBI involvement may give pause to anyone out there who may be tempted to copy these tactics.

    And exactly who is behind this site is known. It is not difficult to get the information. I was PM'ed the site owner's name and home address by another AWer who tracked it down. It is not nearly so possible to be an anonymous attacker as some people seem to think.
    I would like to know if you don't mind sharing?

    I have a feeling about who it might be but I'm not positive.

    Oh it's so easy to find out who it is she's left the information public.

    ETA: Although that could be an alias.
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    Wow how could anyone defend this site:

    Nothing has brought as big a smile to my face as this site. ttp://stopthegrbullies.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexxie View Post
    This is freaking me out! I don't understand how this has escalated so that some reviewers actually don't feel safe in their own homes anymore Very sad, and also scary.
    I just read that post and I'm in shock. I don't understand how someone threaten another person and then call the victim a bully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fireluxlou View Post
    I would like to know if you don't mind sharing?

    I have a feeling about who it might be but I'm not positive.

    Oh it's so easy to find out who it is she's left the information public.

    ETA: Although that could be an alias.
    If you google the address you'll find that it's a business address for Senior Care Management Services, Inc.

    I suspect it's just an address pulled at random.
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    The person named as the owner matches a reviewer on GRs. However, this person doesn't seem to be terribly active. I wonder is the name fake?

    I know a number of people claim to know who is behind it. My fear would be the wrong people outed and blamed by someone.

    Surely there is justification to have the site closed. It was ill-conceived in the first place. I can't imagine what the people behind it hoped to achieve by lashing out in such a manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireluxlou View Post
    Wow how could anyone defend this site:



    http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/234375340

    Jesus Christ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fireluxlou View Post
    Wow how could anyone defend this site:



    http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/234375340

    That's just despicable. I'm wondering how her publisher feels about this. And I'm sure her agent must be thrilled. I know a couple of people represented by Erin Murphy Literary and I'm shocked that this is the kind of person she would represent.

    Maybe it's time someone - either her agent or her publisher - had a chat with Ms. Schulman about appropriate author behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacia Kane View Post
    Jesus Christ.
    I don't know if it's ironic or hilarious that her book is about seeking revenge on bullies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubastes View Post
    Aaaaaand, the GR bully thing has escalated:

    http://www.goodreads.com/story/show/...-to-be-stalked
    I'd involve the police. I wouldn't have the first clue about the laws regarding this in the US and if a restraining order is really like an umbrella in a hurricane like "Lucy" said. But assuming the person behind stopGRbullies is not a totally crazy person, but someone who went waaaay overboard - it might just take a police involvement or restraining order to stop this crap.

    This is getting beyond ridicoulus.

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