Vampires Suck [adult content]

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Also known as "I am a terrible person who must be stopped."

But, I had an idea for a book. A vampire book.

A young adult vampire book.

Our hero - Danny - is an average kid with a happy life. He's got a girl (she's in color guard) and he's got place as second sax in Marching Band. His college prospects are good, and most everyone seems to like him.

Then he's hit by a car and left choking to death on his own blood in the middle of the street. That's when he meets Lesley.

Lesley is sex on legs. She's tall, leggy, has huge.......tracts of land, and perfect skin. She's also 200 years old and a vampire. And, more than that, she's a good Samaritan. So she offers Danny a choice. And as that choice is between death and NOT death, Danny picks the option that involves his blood being sucked by a sexy vampire.

When he sits up, he's stronger, tougher, sexier and has fangs.

Danny is a vampire.

Unfortunately, Danny has a few misconceptions about being a vampire. For one thing, sunlight does not cause them to burst into flames. It just gives them one bitching headache and causes them to age naturally and lose most of their vampire-fu (Danny's word for it).

For another thing, vampires don't actually suck blood.

See, uh, the blood concept was actually a change made by Bram's editor. They thought the truth was a bit too, well, how to put it...

Risque?

See, vampires sustain themselves on the metaphysical life force of human beings. And that has always been most potent in the..."immaculate acts of conception and the fluid discharge involved therein", as Lesley puts it.

Semen. Basically. Well, eggs too, but women have only so much and it's WAY harder to get at.

Danny - being straight - is...not entirely thrilled (to say the least). But he's stuck with it. So he's got to juggle his girlfriend, his worries about being unfaithful to her, his concerns about his own sexuality, his school finals, and the fact that a roving gang of homophobic hunters has started to track him down.

So, I have the following questions.

Exactly how completely impossible will this be to publish?

(I'm pretty sure it's up there with my last YA urban fantasy, which has a bisexual, bigendered hermaphrodite solving crimes in terms of completely unpublishable, purely for the sex content alone...)

And furthermore, is it just me or does this not just make a whole hell lot of sense. Why else are vampires so goddamn sexy?

And...ya know...

Fabulous!

:D

God I'm going straight to hell...
 

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I just want you to know I was screaming by the end of this post. Oh man, I spit my french fries everywhere.

Isn't this the set up to a porno? Does he have to drink the semen?
 

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Yes. He must drink the semen.

No, this is not a set up to a porn. But it easily could be.

I was thinking MAYBE I could get around it by being really non-explicit and play up the farcical nature of it.

...like, I don't know, licking used socks he steals from closets.

PLEASE! STOP ME! I CAN'T HELP MYSELF!
 

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I guess licking semen-crusted socks is not quite as bad as gokkun.
If there's even a scale for that type of thing.

I'm sure there's someone out there who could get pumped up about something so subversive.
 

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I also had a think that vampires who drink blood get...well, kind of evil and crazy.

For a totally not subtle commentary on american treatment of sex versus violence.
 

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So, if the semen is required for the process of sustaining vampiric existence, why does she need to suck his blood to make him a vampire? Seems a fundamental error in the metaphysics there to me...

Though one thing does occur to me, this is a possible reason why so many religions are against the concepts of both extra-marital sex (and promiscuity in general) as well as the specifics of gay sex. Both of these religious rules (neither of which are particularly well covered in the bible apart from a couple of flimsy and easily interpreted differently parables) would have the effect of severely limiting these creatures' feeding opportunities. Until, of course, the modern day when the majority tend to ignore them and so there can be a population explosion of these vampires (starting somewhere in the 60s...). Though, of course, I am aware that everyone ignored the religious rules on sex all through history as I am sure several historians will point out (well, my wife keeps telling me that it is a misconception to assume no one had premarital sex or extra-marital sex until modern times :) )

One thing to be aware of, however, is the possibility that something you consider to be edgy and daring may well end up coming across as silly and juvenile if not handled carefully. I am always reminded of the 'orgasm alien' in Torchwood and how that was generally received by viewers... such things have a tendancy to trigger peoples paroxysm generators :)
 

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Well, he THOUGHT that she was going to suck his blood, and he wasn't exactly in any state of mind to really notice what was going on, what with the collapsed lungs and broken ripcage and horrible agony.

And, no, I don't think this is actually edgy or daring. I think it's silly and juvenile.

It's supposed to be a sex-romp. I guess it might work better as erotica, but I think that teenage awkwardness about sex and sexuality really fit with the themes of young adult literature.

Bah. BAH I SAY!
 

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Sounds like it would be pretty difficult to publish, but I LOVE IT. You shouldn't be stopped, not at all. You should be encouraged. If no one takes it up, you can always self-publish and become some sort of anti-sparkly!vampire sensation. :D

And yeah, it would probably be easier to publish it as erotica, but I love the idea as YA. Damn. I love it so much.
 

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So do they FRY the eggs?

You so need to get Shady Lane on this. She would love it.
 

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And what would a vegetarian vamp of this sort eat? Vasectomy-produced fluid?

Sweat?

Um. Spit?

Is it only sex?


I think I'll go lick socks in the closet with Zoombie. That sounds a lot safer for my marriage.
 

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hahahaha sounds... intriguing. For sure. I like vampire stories. In fact, i'm working on one right now. Although.. not quite as graphic. Or intense. More family friendly. haha.
 

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OMG, I couldn't stop laughing.

You may have a little audience gender trouble. Or not. :D
 

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I think I'll go lick socks in the closet with Zoombie. That sounds a lot safer for my marriage.

But then when he's making out with his girlfriend, she's going to pull back and go, "Ack," And pull a long sock string out of her mouth.

And he's going to go, "Lisa...I can TOTALLY explain..."

Then he is going to run.

Really. Really. Fast.
 

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This gives my sock fetish a whole new depth.
 

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I love this on so many levels, Zoombie. I think it addresses confusion and being flung into a wacky sort of situation and all sorts of cool stuff.

I think you could make it fun. Maybe some sex, but mostly outrageous.

Yes, I think it could get published.
 

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I also had an amusing idea of the homophobic bullies who are constantly making fun of him and such, and for pretty much the entire novel, so they're making fun of him and roughing him up during the day time, so he has this splitting headache and his powers are on a low ebb.

They're like, "Heh, bet you're a fag." *shove shove shove*

And he's like, "No, I'm trying really hard not to be, could you please shove off?"

And near the climax, they'll come out at night and he will be like, "I really need to focus on the people trying to kill me, please SHUT UP!"

And they'll be like, "Jeer jeer jeer,"

And then he throws them into a trash can and hurries on.

Symbolizing my intense desire to beat up the assholes who made fun of me. And...his moving on from being hurt by name calling and his own self assurance with his sexual identity.

Or something like that.
 

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Lots of potential.

I don't do YA, so maybe I'm off base.

I DO use humor to get major themes across in my books. I think this is a great concept to build on if that's what you want to do. If you like it, start writing and think about it later.

Really. Go now, and PUT THE DAMN SOCKS DOWN.
 

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L.M.A.O. *dies* I really should not have read this while eating. especially the sock bit :| but this sounds hilarious. probably would be hard to publish, yes, but... damn, just please write it anyway? :roll:
 

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I think he could do pretty much the whole thing without any sex scenes or anything really extreme for YA.

Just think of how -interesting- it would be.

"Hey man, I'll pay you to...you know."
"what?"

"You know! I just need the goods when you're done. Here's a movie. I'll give you $20."


Consider all the cocktails you could make. Sort of like "How To Eat Fried Worms".
 

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just want to say: this is A.MAZE.ING! Do it! One thing: perhaps he could just break into sperm banks and steal the goods? Maybe mix it with food or something?
 

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"Hey man, I'll pay you to...you know."
"what?"

"You know! I just need the goods when you're done. Here's a movie. I'll give you $20."


Consider all the cocktails you could make. Sort of like "How To Eat Fried Worms".


just want to say: this is A.MAZE.ING! Do it! One thing: perhaps he could just break into sperm banks and steal the goods? Maybe mix it with food or something?

MG this idea is effing perfect. Pleeeeease write it!! And these suggestions are pure gold!
 

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Just curious, but is it the sperm or the semen that they need?

Sounds like a good idea, but it is possible to create sperm without sex or guys. If your vampires are super rich, Cullen/Blade style, they could have a laboratory where they actually create the sperm. Or, perhaps someone is trying to destroy it. Who knows? I just think it's an interesting idea to play around with because so many people (*cough* Meyer) never think about the science behind their vampires.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6547675.stm
 

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This sounds like it would be a really cool book. And speaking as the intended target audience, I admit I'd probably read the blurb on the back and be like, ".... Ok, now I have to get this just to see if it's what I think it's about." and then I would most likely proceed to fall in love with it. Again, this is just, it'll be a breath of fresh(?) air from the rest of the vampire novels out on the market.
 

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Just curious, but is it the sperm or the semen that they need?

Sounds like a good idea, but it is possible to create sperm without sex or guys. If your vampires are super rich, Cullen/Blade style, they could have a laboratory where they actually create the sperm. Or, perhaps someone is trying to destroy it. Who knows? I just think it's an interesting idea to play around with because so many people (*cough* Meyer) never think about the science behind their vampires.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6547675.stm

Well, see, it's not ACTUALLY sperm that they need, it's life force. It is magic, and a magical set of rules.

I was inspired by how impotence was considered to be a side effect of masturbation in the middle ages, because sperm was seen as your literal life force. And, of course, only by producing children could you stay...potent, becuase the true love that comes from producing a child sustains your life energy.

So, yeah, fake sperm would be cheating.
 

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I was soooo excited about this idea, then you said he had to drink seman......WHY?


Him dating Lesley sounded cute. :( WHY MUST YOU DESTROY CUTENESS?????

:mad:

Also you're not Applejack no mores. :(

(But I would read your book, with hopes that he ends up with lesley.)
 
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