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    George R. R. Martin on the writing and editing process...

    Just saw this on GRRM's blog. I thought it might be interesting for those interested in being traditionally published to see what the editing process can be like for a very large novel in a long series. Kind of a fascinating peek into the construction of what will surely be an excellent novel!

    http://grrm.livejournal.com/217066.html#cutid1

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    Thanks for posting that. I love George R. R. I didn't know he'd finally finished A Dance with Dragons. I was hoping this one would be the last of the series. I doubt I'll live long enough to see the next one.

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    Thank you for posting! I love his books and just marvel at their intricacy and how he keeps track of all the plot threads. It's hardly surprising it takes him so long to churn them out, really! (Although, A Dance with Dragons was pushing it, I think.)

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    Looks like this series will end when GRRM does. Or maybe not, if Brandon Sanderson is still around.
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    I think the most exciting part of that post is how he mentioned copies of all his partials are sent to the special collections at Texas A&M. If and when those are public, I intend to look over every one of them. (Maybe I'll be the student of fantasy literature he speaks of).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaeal View Post
    Looks like this series will end when GRRM does. Or maybe not, if Brandon Sanderson is still around.
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    The first draft is a huge pile of clay that you've laboriously heaped on your table, patting it into a rough shape as you go along. From the second draft onward, you'll cut away chunks, add bits, pat and punch and pinch, until you finally have a gorgeous figure of, oh, Marcus Aurelius. Or a duck. But a damn fine duck.
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    For someone that has only read the first three books will that link spoil a bunch for me if I read it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by playground_king View Post
    For someone that has only read the first three books will that link spoil a bunch for me if I read it?
    Only a bit. There's some discussion of the viewpoint characters in A DANCE WITH DRAGONS - if you see a character's name there, you'll know they survived A FEAST FOR CROWS. Apart from that, I don't think any spoilers are mentioned.

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    I don't think any characters are even mentioned, but I can't recall clearly. Oh -- Jaime, Cersei, and Tyrion are mentioned, but all that really tells you, as Para said, is that they survived AFFC.

    Mostly, it's just an interesting look at how he goes about writing, rewriting, working with editors, and preserving his older versions of a manuscript. It's kinda cool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaeal View Post
    Looks like this series will end when GRRM does. Or maybe not, if Brandon Sanderson is still around.
    lol

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    I know what he means about the "sweat". I didn't have to reduce my word count in the final polish, but I managed to trim off 500 words anyway, just by identifying places where I'd repeated myself (e.g. stated something in the narrative and then had a character paraphrase that in dialogue a couple of lines later - oops!).

    I enjoyed the first book of ASOIAF, but my reading time is limited at the moment so I'm sticking to somewhat shorter novels!
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    Very interesting. He appears to be an "edit as you go" writer and I am as well, so it is good to know that not everyone writes blindly until first draft completion and then waits to go back and tighten it up. I would think that such a long book would almost require that sort of plan, whereas a shorter book would allow for more more writing and less editing in the first draft.

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