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    Keith Publications (Mary Keith)

    Can anyone advise me about Keith Publications located in AZ and how they respond to writers?

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    You're in the wrong sub forum. A mod will port you over to bewares and background checks. Please make sure your seat belt is fastened and that your tray table is in the upright and locked position.

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    Thanks for correcting my error, but I'm still at a loss in being able to answer my query.

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    This is the right place, but if only a few people have experiece with that publisher, it may take a while for you to get answers. Have patience, and welcome to AW!

    ETA: I took a look at the Wicked Ink Press imprint at the link CaoPaux gave above. On the New Products page, all the authors are listed as "manufacturer". WTF????? In another strangeness, the cover of one of their new releases clearly shows the title is "Shooting Stars", but the book is consistently listed as "Shoot Stars" thoughout the website.

    I then clicked to read an excerpt from "Shoot Stars." In the first two sentences the MC contemplates a locker door (or possibly a mirror on the locker door) which she had twisted into a tight braid that morning. Read about it here: http://www.wickedinkpress.com/excerp...rsexcerpt.html

    I'm underwhelmed. YMMV.
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    From the first page of its Google cache:

    Keith Publications
    wants your submissions.

    That's enough to convince me they're not someone I'd submit to. Publishers should focus on selling their books to potential readers, not trying to recruit writers. Readers are the ones who buy things. If writers are paying, then something's wrong.

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    Besides, as a romance publisher that accepts hot romance and erotica, I don't know how they ever resisted wording that as:

    Keith Publications
    wants your submission.

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    So they run a 'review site' that reviews their own books?
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    Re: twisting that mirror into braids. OUCH. (On oh-so-many levels.)

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    Just a note that they've cleared the hack.
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    Out of curiousity, I was wondering if there was any new word on Keith Publications? I'm considering working with them creating cover art, but I wasn't sure if anyone's had previous experience with them. I know they do art through royalties and work for hire. I just thought I'd see whether or not they'd been reputable.

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    Hi Stephanie:
    I've just been offered a publishing contract with Keith Publications - to be honest, I've done my research; and they don't seem to be anything else but a small publisher (founded in 2001) who are waiting, like us, for their big break. I've querried them about a small section of the contract they've sent me; and I'm just awaiting their reply. However, although I'm still thinking this through, I am kind of thinking that I'll go with them.
    Don't know if that is any help.
    Nigel.

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    I saw a Keith Publications contract last year and it had a truly horrible termination clause that, among other things, delayed the return of rights beyond the contract's termination date. Don't know if that's still in the contract, but be sure to check the termination/reversion language.

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    Keith Publications didn't start until 2010 not 2001. We did start building our staff in 2009. We are a small publisher, but not a publisher you have to pay to publish your book. We are now doing print books along with our e-books. We might take longer to get a book out, because we have good editors and we want quality not quantity, if it means a book that doesn't look like it's been edited. We have new lines coming out in 2013. KP has three imprint sites and we publish everything from poetry, how-to, children’s picture books, fiction, non-fiction, mysteries, westerns, sweet romance to erotica. This is why we have three imprint sites. WE don’t put erotica with children’s picture books. Our contract, I’m told is a fair contract, from an agent that sends KP lots of work. Yes, we will work with an agent or with the author.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keithpublications View Post
    [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Keith Publications didn't start until 2010 not 2001.
    From your own website:

    Keith Publications started in 1985
    We might take longer to get a book out, because we have good editors and we want quality not quantity, if it means a book that doesn't look like it's been edited.
    Call me old fashioned, but I'd far rather have my books look like they've been edited, and edited well.

    We have new lines coming out in 2013. KP has three imprint sites and we publish everything from poetry, how-to, childrenís picture books, fiction, non-fiction, mysteries, westerns, sweet romance to erotica. This is why we have three imprint sites.
    That's quite a broad sweep of genres, keithpublications. Do you have editors who have worked in and specialise in each of them? If not, how do you know that you're doing the best you can for each of the books you publish?

    WE donít put erotica with childrenís picture books. Our contract, Iím told is a fair contract, from an agent that sends KP lots of work. Yes, we will work with an agent or with the author.
    Who is the agent who sends you a lot of work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by keithpublications View Post
    Our contract, Iím told is a fair contract, from an agent that sends KP lots of work. Yes, we will work with an agent or with the author.
    If Keith Publications is only now beginning to diversify into print books, this agent must have been sending "lots of work" your way when you were solely an e-publisher. Correct me if I'm wrong, but e-publishers don't pay advances. What did the agent stand to gain by sending clients to you?

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    I stand by my comment about the contract. In the form I saw, it wasn't a contract I would have advised any writer to sign.
    Quote Originally Posted by Old Hack View Post
    Who is the agent who sends you a lot of work?
    I'd like to know the answer to this also.

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    Keith Publications

    It was me, incidentally, who said they started in 2001 - it was obvioulsy my mistake and Mary was right to correct it. I have been offered a number of publishing contracts since my last Blog and I have to say, Victoria, I can't see anything wrong with KP's. I was origionally querrying the copyright clause, which Mary has since explained to me. KP seem to be a very genuine publisher and after a great deal of thought I have decided to go with them. I'll obvioulsy Blog if there are any issues, but I'm just checking the manuscript, one more time as Mary asked in a recent e-mail, then I am going to sign the contract.

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    Avoid Keith Publications

    The contract is horrible. I have been trying to get away since 2010. I have reports from other authors they had similar problems. The company is predatory. I haven't had a statement in so long I'm not sure if anything was sent in 2013. This publisher is a NIGHTMARE! Every author I personally know who is or has worked with them is unhappy. Keith seeks out publishing virgins to sacrifice to the gods of publishers behaving badly. The website was shut down and never even rebuilt. They only publish the books to Amazon. Everything about this company screams stranger danger! I wish someone had warned me off when I was a sweet innocent newbie in this publishing world.

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