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Greer,
I can see that you are very well versed in these subjects. I think that you would agree that a lot of these points are the subject of wide scale study and debate. You have a very steady hand.
It has been my experience that many of these writers do not like Poets and Writers, but I'm sure it is different in all types of literary circles.
You went over one of my posts earlier, and I have to agree with most of what you said about my points. I did not mean to give disinformation to anyone. Thank you for walking through them. The article was cut in several places and there should have been more information there that was not included. Your walk through was very even handed. I could not have been more wrong about the David Foster Wallace (I'm still checking to see where the info came from).
I think you meant to write agents and not authors in the post above, but the I think if you look at the full scale of university creative writers (including community colleges and the like) you will find that many do not have agents even if they've published books. I think it is very difficult in general for poets to find an agent. At large universities these writers may be represented, but at smaller state universities (and there are many) these writers are not represented by agents. This is what I meant.
In the interest of getting back on topic I would like to ask you your experiences of how "academic creative writers" begin their writing careers? It is seems there is a difference here in my experience as compared to commercial writers. Also, I feel that the end goal of academic writing is different than that of commercial writers. I feel that academic writers seem to be more interested in their work being timeless than they are about commercial success. This is a very controversial topic, and I know I'm going to screw it up and start a flame war (this is not want I’m interested in). You seem to have a way of stating these things better than I do, so maybe you could start? Basically how do you see them starting, and do you feel the goal of literary/academic writing is different than the goal of commercial writers?
I can see that you are very well versed in these subjects. I think that you would agree that a lot of these points are the subject of wide scale study and debate. You have a very steady hand.
It has been my experience that many of these writers do not like Poets and Writers, but I'm sure it is different in all types of literary circles.
You went over one of my posts earlier, and I have to agree with most of what you said about my points. I did not mean to give disinformation to anyone. Thank you for walking through them. The article was cut in several places and there should have been more information there that was not included. Your walk through was very even handed. I could not have been more wrong about the David Foster Wallace (I'm still checking to see where the info came from).
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This is extremely untrue. Most literary writers -- if they have a book, that is -- most certainly do have authors. In fact, of the dozens and dozens I know, there is only one who doesn't have an agent. It is true, though, that many writers of literary fiction teach to supplement their income.
I think you meant to write agents and not authors in the post above, but the I think if you look at the full scale of university creative writers (including community colleges and the like) you will find that many do not have agents even if they've published books. I think it is very difficult in general for poets to find an agent. At large universities these writers may be represented, but at smaller state universities (and there are many) these writers are not represented by agents. This is what I meant.
In the interest of getting back on topic I would like to ask you your experiences of how "academic creative writers" begin their writing careers? It is seems there is a difference here in my experience as compared to commercial writers. Also, I feel that the end goal of academic writing is different than that of commercial writers. I feel that academic writers seem to be more interested in their work being timeless than they are about commercial success. This is a very controversial topic, and I know I'm going to screw it up and start a flame war (this is not want I’m interested in). You seem to have a way of stating these things better than I do, so maybe you could start? Basically how do you see them starting, and do you feel the goal of literary/academic writing is different than the goal of commercial writers?