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    The late, the great XThe NavigatorX mdin's Avatar
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    Cooks Source Magazine

    I looked but didn't see any posts about this.

    This is a print magazine currently making the rounds on the internet after they've allegedly stolen someone's article and then told them that they should be happy with the publicity after getting called out on it.

    The original story is here:

    http://illadore.livejournal.com/30674.html

    The best part is the alleged quote from the magazine (from the above link):


    "Yes Monica, I have been doing this for 3 decades, having been an editor at The Voice, Housitonic Home and Connecticut Woman Magazine. I do know about copyright laws. It was "my bad" indeed, and, as the magazine is put together in long sessions, tired eyes and minds somethings forget to do these things.
    But honestly Monica, the web is considered "public domain" and you should be happy we just didn't "lift" your whole article and put someone else's name on it! It happens a lot, clearly more than you are aware of, especially on college campuses, and the workplace. If you took offence and are unhappy, I am sorry, but you as a professional should know that the article we used written by you was in very bad need of editing, and is much better now than was originally. Now it will work well for your portfolio. For that reason, I have a bit of a difficult time with your requests for monetary gain, albeit for such a fine (and very wealthy!) institution. We put some time into rewrites, you should compensate me! I never charge young writers for advice or rewriting poorly written pieces, and have many who write for me... ALWAYS for free!"
    I've yet to see a response from the magazine anywhere.

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    Last edited by CaoPaux; 11-04-2010 at 08:36 PM. Reason: mdin beat me to it. Aaaagh!
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    Ha. I beat you by 10 seconds.

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    The late, the great XThe NavigatorX mdin's Avatar
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    But you should erase mine since yours now has more responses already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdin View Post
    Ha. I beat you by 10 seconds.
    Only cuz I was out getting more links.

    I merged 'em for full thready goodness.
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    Heh. I saw this story in a comments thread on Making Light, last night, and Twittered the links.

    Sheesh. I worry that it makes little indie online or print zines look terrible when some idiot pulls a stunt as unprofessional and boneheaded as this.

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    Their FB page is awash with Internet retribution. Neil Gaiman and John Scalzi have gotten wind of it too and tweeted it (as have I and others).

    Essentially, this cooking magazine is toast.
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    Their FB page is quite the entertaining read. Though I am pretty sure that the Twitter feed (while also hilarious) is the work of trolls.
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    Essentially: Don't do business with these people, either as an author or a magazine buyer.

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    Or as an advertiser.

    Perhaps some timely mails to sponsors with ads in the magazine will wake her up.

    This can't be the first time she's pulled this.

    What else has Griggs stolen?

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    I believe the thread will call more people in if only the title would be changed from Cooks Source Magazine to Stealing articles from the internet... or something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gillhoughly View Post
    Or as an advertiser.

    Perhaps some timely mails to sponsors with ads in the magazine will wake her up.

    This can't be the first time she's pulled this.

    What else has Griggs stolen?
    You might well ask, Gill. Read the comments below.

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    A Case of Copyright Infringement (merged into Cooks Source thread in BR&BC)

    Warning: This blog entry may make your blood boil. According to the author, an article she posted on her own site, copyright displayed, was lifted without authorization or compensation by a small, obscure magazine and published. She complained. The editor asked what she wanted. When she said an apology and compensation, he responded that SHE should pay HIM for the editing that made it a readable piece, along with other infuriating garbage.

    http://illadore.livejournal.com/30674.html
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    There is also a discussion of how much she's stolen here:

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...48&topic=23238

    It appears that almost *everything* she ever published was lifted, so if you've ever written about food, you probably should go find out what she took from you.

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    Holy hell.
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    We already have 2 threads on this.
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    I so the Internet right now.

    Monica (the author who was plagiarized) is a personal friend of mine, so I've been watching this unfold for some time. I can't believe the response she received back from Cooks Source! What a crock.

    Apparently, Cooks Source also ripped off a lot of people with much deeper pockets (like Food Network). So...

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    Yup, I'll see about getting a merge done.

    Meanwhile, here's where it belongs. Or, if you want to follow the "ZOMG" side of it, you'll find it in OP

    I hadn't read about it yet, so thanks AE!
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    haz a shiny new book cover Christine N.'s Avatar
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    And at least one advertiser has backed out today

    (please don't call 2nd street bakery any more - they GOT IT. Poor things are being overrun.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by thieving editor
    (snip) the web is considered "public domain" (snip)
    The hell it is.

    Either this editor was attempting a bold-faced lie, knew very little about the industry, or both. I'm betting both.

    But, really. My husband is an English teacher. If one of his students plagiarized something from the internet, he'd laugh at any "public domain" arguments they put forth and give them a zero. If a college student tried that business, they could get tossed out. Try it at work, and you're likely to get fired...which is what's going to happen to this editor, no doubt. Let the litigation begin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Williebee View Post
    Yup, I'll see about getting a merge done.

    Meanwhile, here's where it belongs. Or, if you want to follow the "ZOMG" side of it, you'll find it in OP

    I hadn't read about it yet, so thanks AE!
    After flipping a coin, merged thread from P&CE into this one. Carry on.
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    haz a shiny new book cover Christine N.'s Avatar
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    The Cooks Source actual website (www.cookssource.com) seems to have gone missing. And this went national, courtesy of the Washington Post: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fas...new_recip.html

    Note to self: never piss off the internet.
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    OMG, this is so full of WIN! Check out their "discussions" page on facebook:
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cooks-...app_2373072738

    The "home address" thing is uncalled for, but some of the other "discussions" rock on toast. In case they're deleted, the thread titles read (in part):

    Griggs personal facebook
    Mainstream news about Cook's plagiarism--post links here
    List of Cooks Source article sources. Please add more.
    Where's the best place to steal articles from?
    and
    Let's hear it for 2nd Street Baking Co.

    ETA: Nothing brings writers together like plagiarism.

    EATA: The facebook sleuths are currently uncovering a startling array of thefts. Cooks Source stole from some major cookbook authors, health sites, Disney, NPR, and more. Some of these individuals/groups/publishers DO have lawyers on staff, and they are all being notified.

    Oh, and apparently, the same editor also runs some other small pubs, on other issues, and uses the same business tactics there.
    Last edited by Monkey; 11-05-2010 at 01:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christine N. View Post

    Note to self: never piss off the internet.
    Hee--never piss off WRITERS.

    I found more links, some from Monica's blog:

    http://illadore.livejournal.com/30729.html

    http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments...permission_by/

    http://vampirephiles.blogspot.com/20...on-editor.html

    Oh--look--the UK papers are on this one:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/...ight-complaint

    And Paula Dean's legal team has been notified.

    Getting more popcorn. This is a helluva "roast" - pun intended.

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    A wonderful article on Cooks Source and their many plagiarisms: http://www.edrants.com/the-cooks-sou...fits-on-theft/

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