The Walking Dead - AMC

Just finished watching the pilot. We, hubby and I think it awesome. I did not know it was based on a comic book.

Kaiser-Kun said:

Once he arrives there and [SPOILEROMG]finds his family[/ENDOFSPOILEROMG], he wants to move the camp away from the city right away. This creates friction between him and the leader.

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Yeah, I've read the comics. I've actually been pleased with the show's treatment of them... though I admit, I'm a little concerned about how the Governor will come across. He's SUCH a good (and sometimes disturbing) villain -- he makes the Top 100 Comic Book Villain lists pretty regularly -- that I'm worried he'll be handled wrong.

I watched it and enjoyed it--mostly--but did notice the same parallels between this and 28 Days Later.

I really liked it. What was fresh and surprising was at the beginning when he came across the little girl, there was that moment where I was expecting her to start running. It was just so nice to see proper shuffling zombies again. Running zombies are probably more terrifying but shuffling zombies... you can actually get a good look at them, and as the pilot demonstrated, you can sort of see the humanity that used to be in them, you can feel sorry for them. It makes them more interesting.

But poor Lennie James... first he survives a nuclear apocalypse in Jericho and now this. Talk about breaks...

I watched this today and loved it

Here's a review of the show from Tim Goodman, who just left the San Francisco Chronicle for The Hollywood Reporter.

He's the best TV critic out there, imo -- knows quality, and loves genre as well as "serious" fare.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/first-hollywood-reporter-review-tim-33846

A good review, but...uh, the tropes of the good zombie film have always been empathy, introspection, and a study of how extreme situations push humanity to various ends.

And by 'good zombie film', I mean things like Dawn, Day, Night, Land and 28 Days Later.

My personal favorite is still Day of the Dead, for Captain Rhodes is the world's biggest and most awesome asshole.

I plan on posting my review on my blog earlier (for anyone who wants me to expand on these points,) but the following in particular were what killed it for me:

1 - Comparisons/similarities to Dawn/28 Days
2 - The sexism
3 - The timeline. He couldn't have been laying in a hospital for a week, let alone a month and lived without any kind of care, let alone food and water.
4 - The stupidity/contradiction of the main characters
5 - The horse

*shrug*

I thought the horse would be throughout the season. My husband got a little mad that the horse died. He kept telling the character, "You promised the horse it wouldn't get hurt." Or something like that.

Also the way the deputy just moved in on the wife. My husband said that broke Man Law and it made me wonder if the affair was going on already. Because well that seemed pretty fast.

Lyra Jean said:

I thought the horse would be throughout the season. My husband got a little mad that the horse died. He kept telling the character, "You promised the horse it wouldn't get hurt." Or something like that.

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Add to the fact that a thousand-plus animal would allow itself to get pulled down by corpses in advanced stage of decomposition... it was just ridiculous. A horse isn't that dumb.

KodyBoye said:

I plan on posting my review on my blog earlier (for anyone who wants me to expand on these points,) but the following in particular were what killed it for me:

1 - Comparisons/similarities to Dawn/28 Days
2 - The sexism
3 - The timeline. He couldn't have been laying in a hospital for a week, let alone a month and lived without any kind of care, let alone food and water.
4 - The stupidity/contradiction of the main characters
5 - The horse

*shrug*

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Was a time specified? He did have an IV in. And you can live a long time without food as long as you are hydrated. If the rate of an IV is set low, it can hydrate the person for a good bit. Even without electricity the pump would keep on going since they also have a battery that kicks in.

As for the rest of what you listed, it's debatable. But I hated when the horse died.

Overall, I though it was great.

ETA: I've seen some during my nursing career go a week without any fluid or food before they passed away.

KodyBoye said:

Add to the fact that a thousand-plus animal would allow itself to get pulled down by corpses in advanced stage of decomposition... it was just ridiculous. A horse isn't that dumb.

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Didn't the horse get scared and fall, throwing the rider when it was surrounded?

KodyBoye said:

Add to the fact that a thousand-plus animal would allow itself to get pulled down by corpses in advanced stage of decomposition... it was just ridiculous. A horse isn't that dumb.

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To give some credit to the movie, the character wasn't letting the horse run away when it wanted to, at the first sight of the corpses when there was only one or two off that bus. There were a lot of corpses I think it was just a matter of getting overwhelmed by the number of them.

What is the link to your blog?

I didn't sense any sexism in the show.

According to the comic(I looked it up), the guy was in a coma for three months. So we can assume that when he finally did wake up, whatever had taken place had happened within a reasonable amount of time for him to still live minus any nursing care.

Lyra Jean said:

To give some credit to the movie, the character wasn't letting the horse run away when it wanted to, at the first sight of the corpses when there was only one or two off that bus. There were a lot of corpses I think it was just a matter of getting overwhelmed by the number of them.

What is the link to your blog?

I didn't sense any sexism in the show.

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The first five/seven minutes was spent between two characters talking about women can't have light bulbs and that men would never be so cruel as to say something negative in front of their children.

brainstorm77 said:

Didn't the horse get scared and fall, throwing the rider when it was surrounded?

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He jumped off. At least, that's what I saw.

brainstorm77 said:

Was a time specified? He did have an IV in. And you can live a long time without food as long as you are hydrated. If the rate of an IV is set low, it can hydrate the person for a good bit. Even without electricity the pump would keep on going since they also have a battery that kicks in.

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The black man (whose name I can't remember/recall hearing) said that the 'gas lines had been down for a month.'

brainstorm77 said:

According to the comic(I looked it up), the guy was in a coma for three months. So we can assume that when he finally did wake up, whatever had taken place had happened within a reasonable amount of time for him to still live minus any nursing care.

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Did they explain how long he was out without any care? The man said 'lines were down for a month.' :/

Also, I haven't posted the blog yet. I still need to edit it.

KodyBoye said:

Did they explain how long he was out without any care? The man said 'lines were down for a month.' :/

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Just that he was in a coma for three months. So yeah, if all hell had broken loose, say a month before he woke up and he was without medical care, it isn't within the realms of reality that he would still be alive.

It's a little far-fetched someone could live on a slow IV drip for a month (considering electricity may be down, too), but I think that's something that audience can choose to suspend their disbelief on. Still unlikely, however.

maestrowork said:

It's a little far-fetched someone could live on a slow IV drip for a month (considering electricity may be down, too), but I think that's something that audience can choose to suspend their disbelief on. Still unlikely, however.

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It's impossible. The bag only holds so much and even on the lowest flow rate it would not last. The pumps have batteries that kick in when the power is out but still, they would not last long.

KodyBoye said:

The first five/seven minutes was spent between two characters talking about women can't have light bulbs and that men would never be so cruel as to say something negative in front of their children.

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Hmmm... I guess that I didn't really see it as sexist of the show in and of itself, just one dumbass guy spouting off his BS. In fact, Mr Grr and I were both laughing at it because at our house, I am constantly going behind him and turning off lights, and coming home after work to find that he's left every light in the lower level on.

And I have one woman I work with, who every time you say, "Hi, Name, how's it going?", goes off on a long rant about why men suck and why they're all assholes and should all be taken out back and shot. It's annoying, and I try really hard to avoid her, but I don't classify the whole company as sexist against men because of her attitude. I just classify her as needing a good massage or vacation or something.

I guess that in order for me to classify the whole show as sexist, I would need to see more than one instance of some jackass spouting off. Right now, all I have is one jackass who has apparently manage to start an affair with his partner's wife, even though he thinks all women are stupid bitches who can't understand the concept of a light switch.

The rest of your post, I agree with though, especially regarding how long he's been in his coma with no medical care. That really bugged me, too.

In 28 Days Later it's not like we know how long he was in a coma either. I put the whole coma bit into the suspension of disbelief. He needs to not know what's going on coma is the best way to do that.

My husband and I both found the joke at the beginning funny. I think it only offends if you find it offensive. After all there are jokes about men that are in that same vein. If the affair had been going on before the show started perhaps the "friend" is telling this joke to keep MC from suspecting said affair. At least that is what I thought when I saw "friend" and wife kiss.

The comic book starts growing the beard more or less between issues 10-20... and the tv show is gonna be 6 episodes per season... oh dear, this is going to be kinda slow...