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Thread: [eZine] Rebel Tales

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    [eZine] Rebel Tales

    http://rebeltales.com/

    This proposes to publish serialised fiction online using a subscription model, and is run by Holly Lisle. It isn't open for submissions yet, but I was curious to know what people thought of the idea.

    Payment is a pro rata of subscriptions/downloads, to editors as well as writers. A story would earn, roughly, 0.0015 cents per word per basic subscription (at $8 per six-issue ‘season’). It would therefore hit 5 cents a word at a circulation of about 3500* [my calculations, not Holly Lisle’s].

    (There’s an additional, far pricier, subscription aimed at writers. The same numbers could be reached with only 300 ‘backstage’ subscribers)

    Some questions that occur to me:
    It takes world-wide e-rights, but not print rights, with no reversion option. Would this make it dead in the water for print publishers?

    It wouldn't have as much in the way of fixed costs as a more traditional publisher, but it does have some (servers, if nothing else) so going under is a possibility. In that case, if there's only been one (or half, or all but one) chapter released, does your novel still count as being published?

    Has anyone come across someone with a similar model, and how is it going for them?


    * For those interested, editors would be paid at 80 cents per issue per basic subscription. If it did hit 3500, that would be a salary of $5,600 per month. Of course, if it only sells a hundred, they’re doing the same work for $160.

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    Interesting.

    Not having erights could be a deal breaker when shopping print rights, but it'd depend on the publisher, of course. As would whether they'd consider an already epubbed book a reprint, etc.
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    This popped into my inbox today.
    URGENT: For all writers and other folks interested in working with---or already working with---REBEL TALES.



    Over the weekend I received an entire series of emails forwarded
    to my by REBEL TALES editor Kari Wolfe, who was contacted by a
    frustrated author after a former PROSPECTIVE editor of Rebel Tales
    misrepresented herself as a full editor with an upcoming season
    this March, with the authority to offer contracts.

    Kate Ferrari, the ex-prospective editor, also SIGNIFICANTLY misrepresented
    REBEL TALES as an already up-and-running publishing house, not as a
    shoestring work-in-progress.

    Further tracking by Kari Wolfe reveals that Ms. Ferrari also contacted other
    authors making the same claims.

    While the other folks working on Rebel Tales with me and I know
    the person in question as Kate Ferrari, correspondence with one of the
    authors reveals she also used the names Kirsten Ferrari, and Kirsten
    Andersen.

    Please understand that while Ms. Ferrari acted directly against
    clearly defined guidelines in her role as a prospective editor, and
    also acted without my knowledge and consent, and although she
    is no longer associated in any way with Rebel Tales, as the publisher
    of REBEL TALES, I'm the person responsible for cleaning up the mess
    she left behind.

    If you were contacted by Ms. Ferrari and sent her a story, please
    put all correspondence between you and Ms. Ferrari into a copy-and-
    paste text file, and create a help ticket at:
    http://novelwritingschool.com/support/

    Title your help ticket MS. FERRARI MISREPRESENTATION.

    I will work with you to correct problems arising from Ms. Ferrari's
    actions.

    I apologize deeply for what has happened, and I will take every
    step necessary to make sure nothing like this happens again.

    Holly




    Holly Lisle
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    Rebel Tales

    http://RebelTales.com

    ETA just visited Holly Lisle's website
    Rebel Tales has closed.




    Monday, 07 February, 2011 17:40 Last Updated on Monday, 07 February, 2011 17:40 Written by Holly Lisle 0 Comments
    Due to the nature of the actions taken by Ms. Ferrari, and to how these actions reflect both on Rebel Tales and on me, and because I cannot guarantee that some other person will never misrepresent himself and his actions while using my name and the name of Rebel Tales as cover for wrongdoing, I have made the decision to close Rebel Tales permanently.
    I have not made this decision lightly—I have taken consultation and come to the conclusion that this is the only viable decision I can make. I do so with a heavy heart.
    I apologize to everyone who held the same hopes I had for this endeavor.
    I hope someone else will pick up the banner to create a new midlist for writers.
    Holly Lisle
    Last edited by para; 02-08-2011 at 02:13 AM. Reason: new information.


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    Yeesh. That both sucks and blows, as they say.
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    Crikey. They never even got started! What a shame. I thought it was quite an interesting experiment.

    I'm not sure why she closed, though. Someone pretended to be an employee and acted without authority. Hardly the publisher's fault. Is there something I'm not getting?

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    With that big a mess, I understand why Holly didn't want the legal risk. It's sad, though -- the venture looked interesting, and we certainly need a home for midlisters.

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