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    Question Serving Jesus Christ with Joy Publishing House / christianbooks1.com

    I searched Preditors and Editors and here, but can't find any info.

    One of the employees put up their guidelines on the eDedicatedAuthor group in Yahoo groups.

    Anyone know if they're legit?

    Thanks,

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    I saw that, but threw it away. I think it had some red flags for me, but can't remember what it said any more. Can you post it here?

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    Would like confirmation of the name at least. The only Google hit for "christianbooks1" is a sub-category on a bargain books site.
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    Here's the original post:

    Submission Guidelines for http://www.christianbooks1.com

    All books are to be for the Christian audience. We are looking for books that are tightly written.

    We publish both fiction and non-fiction books. We'll publish cookbooks as long as it has a Christian flavor.

    We will not publish any books that are pornographic in nature, any book with gratuitous or explicit sex.

    If your books are illustrated books, please submit illustrations with the text. We will give you specific instructions on how to submit jpeg, gif, bmp, or many other photo file extension. Let us know in an email and we will send you instruction and a url address to send them to.

    Submit a dynamic query letter in the body of an email. NO attachments will be accepted.

    When accepted, all books are to be submitted in electronic format only via special instruction or mailed to us on CD-Rom.

    Pays 7-10% royalty. We will help market your book, they will be listed with Barnes and Noble.com, Bowker's Books In Print, and on our Christian Books website. Due to the large percentage that Amazon wants to list a book we will negotiate a percentage that is advantageous to both of us at a later time should you want your book listed there.

    Publishes trade paperback originals.

    We do not accept simultaneous submissions.

    Publishes book 1 to 6 months after acceptance of manuscript.

    Submit query letters to
    gloria@... or PastorRandy@...

    We want to hear from YOU!


    The paragraph I changed to red above is the warning bell one for me. Overall, it sounds like a disguised vanity press. Just want to confirm my gut "delete it" feeling.

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    What do you mean, disguised? It's just another vanity POD. The only difference is that this one says Christian, Christian, Christian in their come-on.

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    Indeed. Their error-riddled excerpts reveal much.
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    We'll publish cookbooks as long as it has a Christian flavor.
    That would have to be a rather unusual cookbook! Reminds me of one of my favorite lines a Sunday School teacher liked to use about people who make too much of a show of being pious - "The sort who eat Christian cookies and wear Christian underwear."

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadScientistMatt
    That would have to be a rather unusual cookbook! Reminds me of one of my favorite lines a Sunday School teacher liked to use about people who make too much of a show of being pious - "The sort who eat Christian cookies and wear Christian underwear."
    Just so: what this household refers to as "lifestyle Christians."

    Some very wicked scam agents have paraded their "Christian values."

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    I thought as much.

    Having nearly been taken in by Sydra/ST/[insert latest bogus name here] I read things several times now.

    Thanks.

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    (BTW, the full name of this outfit is Serving Jesus Christ with Joy Publishing House.)
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    Christian cookbooks?

    How about Dining with Diocletian, which includes a chapter on how to roast Christians whole, Christian in a Barrel, Christian flambee, what to do if your lions are finicky eaters, and ten new ways to serve Christians when the kids are saying "Not leftover Christian again! We had that last night!"

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    They must've really picked their brains to find the worst way to describe the slant they were looking for.

    James- I haven't laughed that hard in weeks, thanks!

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    *giggle* That does cast a new light on "Serving Jesus Christ with Joy" don't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaoPaux
    *giggle* That does cast a new light on "Serving Jesus Christ with Joy"
    Don't you mean "with Joy Sauce?"

    Ha ha, I kill me.

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    That sort of reminds me of my efforts to go vegetarian for barbecue on the Fourth of July this year. The vegetarian crawled out of the marinade and escaped, though…
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    for your specific situation. You should not rely on such comments or any other published
    comments, by me or anyone else as anything other than general guidance.
    Unfortunately, no scam agents, vanity publishers, or other similar carrion-eaters were bent,
    folded, spindled, or mutilated in creating this post (not for want of motivation).
    Of course it's "fine print" it's small and red.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James D. Macdonald
    How about Dining with Diocletian, which includes a chapter on how to roast Christians whole, Christian in a Barrel, Christian flambee, what to do if your lions are finicky eaters, and ten new ways to serve Christians when the kids are saying "Not leftover Christian again! We had that last night!"
    It's okay, guys, they taste like chicken.

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    Well, now that things have gone into cannibalism, let me mention www.eathufu.com - their product is billed as the "healthy human flesh alternative."

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    Serving Jesus Christ with Joy Publishing House

    They are NOT a vanity press. They are a small press - traditional publishing house. They just opened their doors in May, 2005.

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    If you have allot of moral fiber in your diet, than you will crap allot of good.

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    Gloria, how did you come by your information?

    One of the names to which prospective authors should send their queries is Gloria. Would that be you, by any chance?
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    Hi, Gloria. May I assume you're Gloria Lyons, co-owner (along with your husband, Pastor Lyons) of the company in question? I'm in Tucson also.

    Good luck with your publishing venture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HapiSofi
    What do you mean, disguised? It's just another vanity POD. The only difference is that this one says Christian, Christian, Christian in their come-on.
    The Network Marketing/Pyramid selling schemes in the UK claimed to be a "christian" business. A friend of mine who had been suckered in religion also got suckered into selling Amway products (Or not selling them, as most people ran a mile.)

    I wonder what a "christian cookbook" contains!

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    Although the founding ministry remains (sjcwj.org), the publishing house is no more.

    http://web.archive.org/web/200604091...ianbooks1.com/
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    Christian Books 1 has gone out of business. If you really want the truth... pray.
    That's...interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flapdoodle
    I wonder what a "christian cookbook" contains!
    (Off-topic for this thread (and I see that the thread is old), just thought I'd answer this.) It could be a cookbook with, for example, traditional foods for saints' feast days -- often presented as a tool for teaching children about faith/culture/history in an enjoyable way. Another might be a book that incorporates thoughts about living a Christian life amid the craziness of family life/domestic work, with practical advice/recipes. I'm sure I've seen others, but I'm not thinking of them now.

    (The previous answer was funnier, though. )
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