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    Soper Literary Agency / textnovel

    Has anyone any experience working with Stan Soper or the Soper Agency?

    Mr.Soper's link: http://www.soperagency.com/submissions.html

    He's the founder of: http://www.textnovel.com/

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    No personal experience with him, but here's a link to a blog post featuring one of his clients:

    http://paranormalromancewriters.blog...erewolves.html

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    It's too new and he's got no experience as a literary agent--which is quite different from being "an experienced lawyer and entrepreneur".

    Most literary agents that I know have worked for other agents before breaking away to form their own agency. Mine worked at Spectrum Lit. Agency for years prior moving to another agency.

    It is important that an agent have actual experience selling books. He may know a bit about literary contracts, but jack about how to sell a book to the right editor.

    The website is not reassuring. While it is great that he secured a 3-book deal to St. Martin's, it is NOT great to show a title "in submission."

    I've never seen that before. You show books you've sold, not ones you're trying to sell!

    He is not specific about what he represents, beyond "fiction/non-fiction". Most agents are clear about what they're looking for in terms of genre or subject. Is he after non-fiction family drama or a how-to book on building tool sheds? He mentions YA and literary fiction, but not on the submissions page where it belongs.

    Back off, give him a year to get established or go under.
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    Thanks Gillhoughly for the recommendations on the website. I removed the reference to books in submission and moved the information about genres to the submissions page as well.

    I also agree that authors should try to work with the most experienced agent they can find, although I would add that there can be certain benefits to working with a newer agent. In particular, in my case at least, I spend quite a bit of time working with my clients -- free of charge -- to help them improve their book to get it ready for consideration. Some agents might not have the time or patience for that. But then again, some authors don't need that kind of help (it tends to be more important for newer authors).

    Gillhoughly asks a legitimate question: can I as a new agent actually sell a book? Well, I have had no problem getting editors at national publishers to look at my submissions so far, but then, I have had to be very careful about the works I represent. I hope to announce some new deals soon!

    Anyway, thanks for the feedback and best of luck to all of you in your writing careers...

    Stan Soper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gillhoughly View Post
    Back off, give him a year to get established or go under.
    Everyone has got to start somewhere. I'm going to query him today.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cate townsend View Post
    Everyone has got to start somewhere. I'm going to query him today.
    That start should be at another already-established agency, not on your own with no experience and no skills and learning as you go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Koyanagi View Post
    No personal experience with him, but here's a link to a blog post featuring one of his clients:

    http://paranormalromancewriters.blog...erewolves.html
    One very happy client, and a deal to an A-list publishing house - not bad for a start.



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    Bumping up this thread. Anyone else have a recent experience with this agent?

    I'm thinking about querying him.

    Cate townsend - what happened when you queried him?
    It is with the deepest sadness that I must tell all of you that my wife, Irene Schaft, passed away on Monday, 9 August 2010 from a massive stroke.

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    Okay, dang it! I queried him. It just felt right to me. Know what I mean?
    It is with the deepest sadness that I must tell all of you that my wife, Irene Schaft, passed away on Monday, 9 August 2010 from a massive stroke.

    In lieu of flowers, please consider making a contribution to Parker Paws, http://www.parkerpaws.org/donate.html a local animal shelter.

    Irene's system will only be up infrequently for the next few weeks, and her mail will not be checked regularly. Any messages of condolence can be sent to her husband George at schaft@schaft.com

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    I queried him in January and got a super-fast request for a full, which he read . . . super-fast (maybe 3 days?). Rejection with excellent feedback, had a bit of a correspondence going with him as he was curious about my non-genre.

    Did I mention he was super-fast? Very nice also. No nonsense type of guy.

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    And...

    A request for the full.
    It is with the deepest sadness that I must tell all of you that my wife, Irene Schaft, passed away on Monday, 9 August 2010 from a massive stroke.

    In lieu of flowers, please consider making a contribution to Parker Paws, http://www.parkerpaws.org/donate.html a local animal shelter.

    Irene's system will only be up infrequently for the next few weeks, and her mail will not be checked regularly. Any messages of condolence can be sent to her husband George at schaft@schaft.com

    Irene's blog: [URL]http://sybilsimon.com/[/URL]

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILSinTexas View Post
    And...

    A request for the full.
    w00t!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILSinTexas View Post
    It just felt right to me. Know what I mean?
    Way to go with your instincts!!!

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    Yep--if it feels right, ya gotta give it a shot. Congratulations and remember to report back with updates.
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    I sent a query yesterday based on this thread, and received a request for the full this morning from Stan Soper. I'll let you know what happens....

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    Wow! Y'all go girls! And, yeah, get back with the good news.
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    Thanks for your good wishes, everyone.
    It is with the deepest sadness that I must tell all of you that my wife, Irene Schaft, passed away on Monday, 9 August 2010 from a massive stroke.

    In lieu of flowers, please consider making a contribution to Parker Paws, http://www.parkerpaws.org/donate.html a local animal shelter.

    Irene's system will only be up infrequently for the next few weeks, and her mail will not be checked regularly. Any messages of condolence can be sent to her husband George at schaft@schaft.com

    Irene's blog: [URL]http://sybilsimon.com/[/URL]

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    Congrats, Maddie!

    What genre do you write? Mine was a YA fantasy.
    It is with the deepest sadness that I must tell all of you that my wife, Irene Schaft, passed away on Monday, 9 August 2010 from a massive stroke.

    In lieu of flowers, please consider making a contribution to Parker Paws, http://www.parkerpaws.org/donate.html a local animal shelter.

    Irene's system will only be up infrequently for the next few weeks, and her mail will not be checked regularly. Any messages of condolence can be sent to her husband George at schaft@schaft.com

    Irene's blog: [URL]http://sybilsimon.com/[/URL]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrina S. Forest View Post
    An agent working with their client free of charge to help improve their book is not an "added benefit."
    It is an added benefit, if you consider that some agents do not spend time with their clients developing their project into a better book. Some offer little or no editing at all.



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    What the hell, I sent him a query. I have a few fulls out there already, but haven't heard anything back yet, so I figured I might as well put another fire on the log.
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    Queries can never hurt your odds!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cate townsend View Post
    It is an added benefit, if you consider that some agents do not spend time with their clients developing their project into a better book. Some offer little or no editing at all.
    I'm sorry, what I was trying to emphasize was that doing it "at no charge" is not an added benefit. I understand that some agents do more editing than others, and I definitely think an agent that spends more than average time with each client is great. But it was claiming to do that and adding that it was free (as if others agents would charge for the extra time) that threw me off.

    Maybe I completely misread things, and if I did, I apologize.
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    It's okay, Katrina. I understood what you meant.
    It is with the deepest sadness that I must tell all of you that my wife, Irene Schaft, passed away on Monday, 9 August 2010 from a massive stroke.

    In lieu of flowers, please consider making a contribution to Parker Paws, http://www.parkerpaws.org/donate.html a local animal shelter.

    Irene's system will only be up infrequently for the next few weeks, and her mail will not be checked regularly. Any messages of condolence can be sent to her husband George at schaft@schaft.com

    Irene's blog: [URL]http://sybilsimon.com/[/URL]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrina S. Forest View Post
    I'm sorry, what I was trying to emphasize was that doing it "at no charge" is not an added benefit.
    Beating a dead horse here, but . . .

    I think Stan's doubters might be over-reading a tad. He doesn't have a lot of experience yet, but he needs to assure agent-seeking writers that he's got something to offer.

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