Obama the conservative?

SPMiller said:

Wrong. There's nothing that says your interpretation of the text is authoritative, much less more valid than mine. Nor would the authors' interpretations be authoritative, if we had them, which we don't.

Let's get this straight, all right? Many if not most of the Fed Papers were written by Hamilton, not Madison or Jay, and we all know the friction between Hamilton and your good buddy TJ. If you want to sling quotes around, pick the right ones.

But think what you want. I sure can't stop you.

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Don said:

Those quotes aren't written in a foreign language, you know. The interpretation is clear as a bell. Thomas Jefferson's prediction of EXACTLY the condition we find ourselves in today simply confirms the accuracy of their statements.

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All the prerogatives, all the essential characteristics of sovereignty, both of the internal and external kind, are vested in the general government, and consequently the several States would not be possessed of any essential power or effective guard of sovereignty. Thus I apprehend, it is evident that the consolidation of the States into one national government (in contra- distinction from a confederacy) would be the necessary consequence of the establishment of the new constitution, and the intention of its framers-and that consequently the State sovereignties would be eventually annihilated, though the forms may long remain as expensive and burdensome remembrances of what they were in the days when (although laboring under many disadvantages) they emancipated this country from foreign tyranny, humbled the pride and tarnished the glory of royalty, and erected a triumphant standard to liberty and independence.

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