Yes, your characters can have sex

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necrophilia and bestiality would be hard to sell in adult as well, except to a very specific niche market publisher, I'd think.

So....yeah, those probably can't be in most YA.

BUT!

if you've got a REALLY good reason for it and it's not just for shock value, then yes it can be in there. most agents would probably reject immediately, but if it's a good, well-written story and the necrophilia, bestiality, whatever isn't just there to be there, then it can eventually find a home.
 

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Zoombie's characters aren't allowed to have sex. Actually.

I read this one book (it was awful, but not for this reason) where the main character was all traumatized 'cause he was sleeping with this girl who died either just after or during or just before they were having sex, he didn't know.
 

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Bestiality is hot.

I have pictures that prove it.

NO, ZOOMB.

Um. I'm thinking necrophilia and bestiality are out there. Just because they're hard to publish in adult fic land, too.

Which is why zombies and werewolves are popular.
 

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Dogs are cute.

Embalming fluid causes really hard erections in dead tissue.



I am mentioning this for no reason.
 

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I think I just banned you from this thread.

Wait lemme check.

Yes. Yes I did.
 

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Zoomb, this has nothing to do with your specialness. Okay? okay.
 

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necrophilia and bestiality would be hard to sell in adult as well, except to a very specific niche market publisher, I'd think.

So....yeah, those probably can't be in most YA.

BUT!

if you've got a REALLY good reason for it and it's not just for shock value, then yes it can be in there. most agents would probably reject immediately, but if it's a good, well-written story and the necrophilia, bestiality, whatever isn't just there to be there, then it can eventually find a home.

Oh quite - I wasn't suggesting (ahem) speciality porn... Shady, in her post immediately below yours, described the sort of incident that I had in mind. In fact that one has been used in a film, made as long ago as 1965, called The Party's Over. (It had a lot of censorship problems as you might expect and is pretty obscure nowadays.)

As for bestiality, well you could reflect the fact that it's a well-known pastime in very deprived rural areas, or has been in the past.

But as you say, either subject in a YA novel, however justified by the storyline, would be a difficult one to get past agents, let alone teachers and librarians.

So there probably are limits, in the more out-there forms of sexuality. But not as many as a lot of people seem to think. Which is the whole purpose of this thread.

I'll stop lowering the tone now. :)
 
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I'm just hoping people will see this thread before they post. So many people's questions would be answered just by glancing at the title.
 

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Can it be stickied?
 

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See, I wouldn't really consider having sex with a girl who died in the middle or before necrophilia because he didn't know she was going to die.

I realize this would cause a lot of "omg I liked it I'm some kind of monster" reflection, but I'm not sure if I would call it necrophilia...
 

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Can it be stickied?

do not know.



yeah, sophie, but it was sketchy and would provoke a lot of the same responses censorship-wise as hardcore necro, i'm thinking. and it was available at borders and stuff.
 
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Dogs are cute.

Embalming fluid causes really hard erections in dead tissue.



I am mentioning this for no reason.

I love you so much it hurts.

I love you too Shady!

<huggles>

What about me? :cry:

You guys are rejecting my specialness. I'm all tragic and shit.

<walks off while sad music plays>

You will always be special to me, Zoombie! When I've finished my current WIP and go back to my YA project I shall make my MCs have sex with werewolves just for you!!!
 

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Oh I see. You didn't mention sketch the first time around.
 
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