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Hey, I'm back. I've dug the manure out from under my fingernails and I am the proud mother of 4 raised beds full of potatoes, broccoli, onions- red & yellow, lettuces of all kinds...and I'm waiting for the peas, carrots and beets to make an appearance.

Building a 5th bed for the tomatoes...and so far the organic deer repellent made from peppermint oil is working great.....I'f still putting up fencing around the beds.

7 blueberry bushes. 3 of them are those new 'Pink Lemonade' blueberries.

I want to post some pics but I am still figuring out how to.
 

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Since the vegetable garden is in and thriving so far, I turned my attention this week to my ornamental bed. My mother mail-ordered me some plants for my birthday last year, and I've having mixed results with what wintered over. Haven't seen any sign of my hollyhocks or coneflowers sprouting yet, although the balloon flower, penstemon and hydrangea all came back (although one hydrangea looks a bit wan). I got everything raked, weeded and mulched, and then my husband gave me my birthday present - a stone birdbath with a fountain feature! It makes me so happy to see it burbling away out there next to our ornamental weeping cherry tree.

I pulled up and disposed of a pair of sickly sawgrass plants (they used to dominate my garden but last year I transplanted them to a less hospitable spot to make room for the weeping cherry - in truth, I think I wanted to kill them). I now have an empty space in the corner of the garden next to the house, which gets dappled sunlight through much of the day but not a lot of moisture, as it's just beneath the eaves. Anyone have any suggestions for a shrub or tall perennial (appropriate for USDA Zone 6B) that might like such a location?
 
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I'm honestly not following you, Stormie!

mrsmig, how many hours of sunlight does that location get? Do you only want shrubs or tall perennials?

We've finally got our garden in. Sunday we'll be putting in the corn and squash. We're doing double this year since next year is the year of release and the land needs to lay fallow.
 

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mrsmig, how many hours of sunlight does that location get? Do you only want shrubs or tall perennials?

It gets indirect light during the morning, but by afternoon it's mostly in shade. I'm thinking of moving a couple of large hosta into the space - do you think that would work?
 

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I'm not sure how dry your soil is, but I consulted my mother who works in the garden department at Home Depot for options. She says the ground probably isn't that dry even if the location is beneath the eaves, but perhaps it is. For shady locations she says Hostas are good or Astilbes; Ferns, Bleeding Heart; Lilly of the Valley; Tiger Lilly; Ivy; Vinca Vine; Creeping Myrtle; Forsythia; Lilac; Azalea; Rhododendron; Hydrangeas; Honeysuckle Vine; Ground Phlox; Helleborus; and Corabells.

-- That's all we got right now. :)
 

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Very helpful - thanks!
 

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Went to the garden yesterday after work, since it was the first break in the rain we've been getting. Mushrooms everywhere. Everywhere.

My radishes are about the size of dimes (I snuck a peek). The loose leaf lettuce is coming in strongly at last, and at last I can declare the cherry tomato plant survived the frost damage. This past night was only 40, but it looks like warmer nights for the rest of the week. I'm going to be brave and put the seedlings from the window sill out, and hope for the best.

Ran into a fellow gardener while I was out there, told him about the offer of last-chance plants from one of the nurseries, the leak in the rain barrel, and all the rest. Thankfully, he thought spending this afternoon helping me with cleanup was a good way to pass the day. We'll put some work in together this afternoon and hopefully make a dent.

Has anyone tried the vinegar/salt/dishsoap weed killer? Our garden is chemical-free by agreement with the neighbor in the next lot (we use his fence for grapes, so I'd rather not anger him) but the weeds are coming up like crazy through the mulch in the walks between the beds.
 

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Went to the garden yesterday to find half of my onions pulled from the ground and missing, the others damaged and crooked. At first, I thought it was some sort of animal, but none of the other plants had been touched.

I began to find bits of onion greens torn off, lying scattered, and eventually the onions themselves, little things, barely big shallot-sized, thrown in the gravel on the edge of the garden.

The pack of girls from across Ferry street came running over. There's about six of them, between five and ten maybe, lots of cousins, or little sisters. They like to "help" - and by that, they like to shove trowels in the dirt and scream at one another.

They saw me with the onions, and asked if they could help with the gardening. I told them someone had hurt the onion plants, and I was sad, and asked if they knew anything about it. Lots of guilty faces. Not really a surprise.

"Kayla came over and started pulling them up and throwing them." Then they started fighting about which ones of them were friends with her. I asked if they could tell her not to do that again, because it made me sad to see my plants like that. "We told her to stop before she could pull up the other half."

So, I went from being upset I'd lost half my onions to child destruction, to grateful I had half my onions thanks to the Ferry St. Girls.

What can I give them to do that will keep the Ferry St. Girls' curious trowels out of my bed, but give them a chance to "garden"? Does anyone have any experience with building a side "children's garden"?
 

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Worked brutally in the garden all weekend, both vegetables in the back garden, and flowers in the front-of-the-house beds. I'm maybe 80% done with getting stuff in the ground.

We had an anomalously warm dry spring, but that all changed about three days ago, with one good rainy day which cleared in the afternoon to reveal that the mountain elevations east of the city, down to under 2000 feet, were blanketed with snow. At ~600 feet elevation of my house, it was just cold rain. More of that returned today, along with gusty winds which threatened to ruin some of my plants, but fortunately, failed. Next few days are supposed to be sunny and warm.

We'll see.

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Came in late the other night, near midnight, and stopped to admire my little bean patch, where about fifteen little plants had grown about four inches high and were putting out their second and sometimes third sets of leaves.

Came out the next morning to find that all but five had been bitten off short. Damn deer.
 

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Came in late the other night, near midnight, and stopped to admire my little bean patch, where about fifteen little plants had grown about four inches high and were putting out their second and sometimes third sets of leaves.

Came out the next morning to find that all but five had been bitten off short. Damn deer.

If you can't fence 'em out, try this: sprinkle some ground cayenne pepper on your plants. Won't hurt the plants, but I garontee the predators won't like it.

Well . . . unless maybe they are Cajun deer.

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blacbird, I tried a commercial deer repellent containing egg solids yesterday, so we'll see what happens. If that doesn't work, I'll try the cayenne. The same deer bit the top off my jalapeno plant, so it may have a taste for hot stuff!
 

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If you have a dog or know of someone who does, save the shed fur and place it around the plants. Or if you can get them or yourself to pee around the garden it should help deter the deer.
Another trick I haven't tried is to string fishing line around poles near the garden. The deer walk up to it, feel the line but can't see what it is and spook.
 

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blacbird, I tried a commercial deer repellent containing egg solids yesterday, so we'll see what happens. If that doesn't work, I'll try the cayenne. The same deer bit the top off my jalapeno plant, so it may have a taste for hot stuff!

The leafy parts of the jalapeño plant aren't particularly spicy.

caw
 

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My house is being renovated. The walls, wiring and ceiling are down to the boards. Broken lathes, plaster, nails and dust covering the floor. the porch that was just painted is a dusty mess. I tried to move the porch plants to a safe area but they are covered in dust. The house was built in 1902 so there is a lot of dust. The contractors showed up a week early so nothing was organized, we had about three hours to evacuate.

We are staying with my sister in a much larger town about 30 miles away. I have to drive to water my gardens and to check on the reno work but can't sleep there or even stay long.

The bad news: someone shot the window out of my car while it was parked on the street so I missed a couple of days of watering. The good news: (?) Rain, hail and high wind alert in my town. Not sure what happened. Hope we got a nice heavy rain but not the hail and wind. Tomorrow will see--s6
 

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The leafy parts of the jalapeño plant aren't particularly spicy.

caw


In the words of Foghorn Leghorn, "that was a joke, son." ;)
 

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Gardeners!!! sorry, just wandered in here. I'm currently regulated to pots on the patio, but it's the best looking patio in the complex.

Tell me, how would ya'll describe the smell of "good" soil? My MC in my WIP is a gardener and I find myself thinking about gardening a lot these days. Strange questions float through my head.
 

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I'd say that it smells like the first morning, the first morning that spring has broken. Don't worry about a lawsuit from Cat Stevens--he lifted an old Gaelic poem for his song. You might also add that blacbird has spoken!--s6

(Get it blac? Caw! Caw!)
 

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"Good" soil smells rich and dark and moist - like coffee grounds without the coffee smell. If it has just the faintest tang of well-rotted manure, that's the best.
 

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"Good" soil smells rich and dark and moist - like coffee grounds without the coffee smell. If it has just the faintest tang of well-rotted manure, that's the best.


Coffee grounds are actually very good for your garden, especially for some root vegetables such as carrots. If you do a compost pile, be sure to put your coffee grounds in it.

caw
 

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I'd say that it smells like the first morning, the first morning that spring has broken. Don't worry about a lawsuit from Cat Stevens--he lifted an old Gaelic poem for his song. You might also add that blacbird has spoken!--s6

(Get it blac? Caw! Caw!)

Waaay back in the '70s I performed with a local band, doing a lot of parodical/satirical stuff. We had fun with Cat Stevens' famous song:

Morning has broken,
So we must fix it.
You get the duct tape,
I'll find the glue . . .


caw
 

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Coffee grounds are actually very good for your garden, especially for some root vegetables such as carrots. If you do a compost pile, be sure to put your coffee grounds in it.

caw

Very true.

Meanwhile, my garden is in full swing right now. Beans are coming up, potatoes are nearing harvest and I'm eating strawberries by the bucket.

My grapeleaves are turning yellow, however. Anyone know what that is? Disease? Wrong soil?
 

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Coffee grounds are actually very good for your garden, especially for some root vegetables such as carrots. If you do a compost pile, be sure to put your coffee grounds in it.

caw

I'm a tea drinker myself, but I compost the used leaves.

I had to leave my gardens behind this week to travel south for a few weeks. My elderly mother just got out of rehab after breaking her hip, and I'm helping her get settled back in her house. I gave my vegetable garden a good feed of fish emulsion and am hoping that will hold them for a while. I left The Hubs in charge of watering and hilling up the potatoes I started in containers.

::fingers crossed::