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    Dog Ear Publishing

    Has anyone had any dealings with or know anything about Dog Ear Publishing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose M
    Has anyone had any dealings with or know anything about Dog Ear Publishing?
    Hi Rose,

    Here's Dog Ear Publishing's link: http://www.dogearpublishing.net/

    They appear to be an on-demand publisher.

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    Question Dogear Publishing

    Is anyone familar with Dogear publishing? I've just started looking into self-publishing. I have an agent right now, but he's not doing anything at all for me. In fact, I see his name repeatedly in this forum. I wish I would have seen some of the comments about him before I signed on!

    Anyway, my manuscript is a couple years old at this point, and I'm itching to get it published.

    I could use some really good referrals for a self-publisher!

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    Nuoddo-- Submit a new, separate post. You are asking a different question so you need to get more attention with a different title for your post.

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    Dog Ear Press - I need some reviews

    I'm nearing the publishing stage and considering a company called Dog Ear Press. Editors and Preditors doesn't have anything negative to say about them. I'd be interested to hear from anyone who's done business with them.
    Thanks.

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    I checked out their website. The basic publishing package is $1099.

    If you've decided to pay to have your book in print (not published - there is a difference), there are cheaper options.
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    Check www.lulu.com if you are going self-publishing. I only ever used them for 1 copy of a book...to use for the editing process, but I can tell you it was extremely cheap and the book looked great.
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    I'd also recommend Lulu, which I used to print up some copies of my 3-day novel for friends. Easy to use and good quality product. The shipping was a bit pricey because I'm in Canada, but that couldn't be helped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by batgirl View Post
    I'd also recommend Lulu, which I used to print up some copies of my 3-day novel for friends. Easy to use and good quality product. The shipping was a bit pricey because I'm in Canada, but that couldn't be helped.
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    The one I printed was my 3-day novel too. (-; But you're talking about a different 3-day...I did that one once too. Isn't that coming up again in September?
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    What do you mean by 'nearing the publishing stage'? What kind of outcome are you looking for with publishing? And, my personal favorite questions: have you run your manuscript by betas and polished it for all it's worth?

    When I thought my first novel was near the publishing stage I went through the trouble of having a personal copy bound in leather for my own entertainment. As soon as I got it back I noticed typos, grammatical problems, pacing problems, characterization issues, iffy dialogue that jumped around ... I had never looked at it in hard copy and I missed heaps of easy fixes I could have done. It's still fun to open that book and page through it, but ... There's a tendency for lots of people, myself included, to decide when they're at wits' end that they must have taken it as far as it'll go. What it often means instead is that the manuscript needed a break and a fresh look from a different direction.

    If you've done all that, though, disregard. Just checking!
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    Their information on copyright is vague, at best, and doesn't specify who processes the registration. I'm assuming, in a self-pub case, the author would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kzmiller View Post
    What do you mean by 'nearing the publishing stage'? What kind of outcome are you looking for with publishing? And, my personal favorite questions: have you run your manuscript by betas and polished it for all it's worth?

    When I thought my first novel was near the publishing stage I went through the trouble of having a personal copy bound in leather for my own entertainment. As soon as I got it back I noticed typos, grammatical problems, pacing problems, characterization issues, iffy dialogue that jumped around ... I had never looked at it in hard copy and I missed heaps of easy fixes I could have done. It's still fun to open that book and page through it, but ... There's a tendency for lots of people, myself included, to decide when they're at wits' end that they must have taken it as far as it'll go. What it often means instead is that the manuscript needed a break and a fresh look from a different direction.

    If you've done all that, though, disregard. Just checking!

    That's precisely why I printed a copy at Lulu. I went over it several times on screen and on paper. I knew that if I printed it in book format--just for myself, mind you--I would see glaring errors while reading it this way. And...I did. I would recommend this to everyone. It's an amazing way to detect errors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KTC View Post
    That's precisely why I printed a copy at Lulu. I went over it several times on screen and on paper. I knew that if I printed it in book format--just for myself, mind you--I would see glaring errors while reading it this way. And...I did. I would recommend this to everyone. It's an amazing way to detect errors.
    I do this with my books too. It's cheaper than going through several ink cartridges and a ream of paper, just so i can whip out the Editing Pen of Death. Now, I have a collection of previous marked up drafts, that if need be, I can reference to see what I had in place originally.

    I also used Lulu to print copies of my MA thesis, so my friends and family members who were interested in having a copy could get one. (Though I don't know why they wanted one. It's pretty dry stuff.)
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    Dog Ear Publishers??

    Has anyone had any experience with Dog Ear Publishers?
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    Well, they do seem to be upfront about what they offer in their various packages. It still seems to me that Mill City offers more for the cost, when it comes to the lower-end packages. If their web sites are accurate in reporting their pricing, one seems to get a better deal with Mill City. Their cost-per-book is $0.90 for the cover plus $0.015 per page. For Dog Ear, it's a base charge of $1.28 plus $0.02 per page. When I crunched those numbers for a rough idea of the total cost per book for my own book, it seemed as if the production cost of each book would be about $2.40 per book more with Dog Ear than with Mill City.

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    "Top Self-Publishing Firms" by Stacie Vander Pol is very enthusiastic about Dog Ear. According to the book, Dog Ear pays some of the highest royalties available. Excellent sales, Excellent distribution. I'm considering them seriously myself.

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    Their up-front costs still look pretty steep. I finally choose to use Booklocker--a much more reasonable subsidy POD publisher. They have been very responsive and helpful. I'm waiting for my galley proof, which ought to arrive in the next week or so.

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    I was told here I can get help could you help me please.
    I published my book with Dog Ear, in Nov 2008. In Feb 2009 I found out they were not paying my royalty so I send 2 register letter to stop the print!
    They did not stop so I went to an attorney and the attorney sen them an Email that cost me $500.00 to stop printing the publisher said they have stopped and my book no longer is available, however I still got over 20 copy from their distributors. they also said: 8 copy were sold and I will be paid by the end of June, I still did not get Paid.
    I have tried to find IP attorney but every one confuses my problem with breech of contract.(long Story) and it is not the problem, I just want them to stop selling my book and I have proves that the publisher is not truthful!
    Please help me, I have lost it all, living in my car eating out of trash,to save money for attorney
    I even wrote to:
    "Straight Expectations" by Jane Friedman discusses the ins and outs of self publishing.

    she wrote an article for the publisher:
    Writer's Digest features Dog Ear Publishing as a "Get Smart..." resource for self publishing
    All she did is reply and feel sorry for me, and gave me another email that never responded!
    Please help me any one here please, I am not good in here to see if any one send me anything, but my email is

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    thank you every one thank you
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    There's a bit more about Dog Ear here: http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/...d.php?t=155549
    Last edited by CaoPaux; 11-13-2009 at 01:01 AM. Reason: fixed link cuz I'm OCD like that

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    I did publish my book with Dog Ear, and I am living in my car eating out of trash to save money to visit them with IP attorney. They might look good but I have enough to show they are lower than human. According to them there was only 8 copy of my book was sold and I should get paid by the end of June 2009, to this day I still have not seen anything from them!
    They said they deleted my book and no longer is available as new and POD but I have over 20 copies of my book and all after 3 clear letters to the Dog Ear to stop printing my book.

    I am here to get some help, any help please any one?
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    Azure, it really depends on the specific terms of your contract. They may be allowed to withhold royalty payments until the amount owed reaches a certain dollar value, or they may not need to pay royalties until they've received payment from the distributor/bookseller, which can add a nine month lag period onto your receiving the money owed you. And if you signed a contract giving them the right to publish your book for a given period of time, you can't just tell them you've changed your mind; for a contract to be cancelled both parties must agree to it.

    What kind of help are you looking for? And is it worth your paying an attorney to break this contract? It might be easier, cheaper, and better in the long run to forget about this book and write a different, better book that you can submit to trade publishers who don't require any payment from authors.

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    Sorry I am either slow or think in my head than put them here, english is my fifth language, and sometimes I just forget.

    I sign a contract that is the only Author publisher contract, I paid an attorney $500.00 to write the publisher via Email to stop printing, Dog Ear said they did.

    Dog ear pays every 3 months, and they did write to the attorney I will be paid the end of June 2009 for the first 3 months of 2009!
    They also said no one can no longer buy my book, I did.

    Also I could cancell at anytime, I did not need their permission, they need my permission since I am the only one copy right owner! ( this one is a very long story)

    Yes thank so much, that is a very good Idea, I made few changes and am going to redue my book and this time I will do it all alone, no publisher at all,but it bothers me to let them get away and how many other people they did wrong? that is why they get to plan 1000 trees and brag about it.
    When the book had its own web there was 125000 hit in the first month out of that 25000 were in the web more than 5 minutes for sure, and "I did not sold not even one copy"!!!
    But

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    Attorneys usually send registered letters. Sending an email isn't much good because there's no proof the person has received or read it.

    You own the copyright, but if you have legally leased certain publication rights to Dog Ear, you cannot renege on that agreement. You may need to have a publishing attorney -- not just any attorney, but one who specialises in publishing contracts and IP -- review your contract to see exactly where you stand.

    You cannot just make a few changes and re-publish the book. Please do not do that. Write an entirely new, different book.

    Also, please restrict your comments on your problems with DogEar to one thread here at AW: you have posted the same text in several threads, which is confusing at best and spamming at worst.

    I'm still not sure what kind of help you are looking for.

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    Until now, to publish a book was expensive, frustrating, and time consuming. You tried to find a literary agent who might or might not ever submit your manuscript to a book publisher. And a traditional publisher rejects nearly 98% of all book manuscripts. Those that do make it through the process? 70% FAIL in the market. Even having a traditional book publisher is no guarantee of success. But - Dog Ear Publishing has the answer for all writers wondering how to publish a book.
    This paragraph from their web page is so full of misinformation and half-truths... typical vanity-press blather. It's an appeal to the desperate.

    First, publishing a book isn't expensive at all. The publisher pays you. Second, if you've found a real agent, he or she will indeed submit your manuscript. Third, 98% of all manuscripts are unreadable. Having them printed up by a POD isn't going to magically make them readable. Fourth, perhaps 70% of all commercially published novels don't earn out. This is far from "failing." In fact, it's the system working as designed. And the author has already cashed the advance check. But even if it were true, paying someone to print up your book, where you have no publicity, marketing, or distribution beyond what you can do yourself, isn't going to make your book any more likely to succeed.
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    We have a book sitting in our historian's office to try and sell for a local author who did a local history on an area of the county. The print quality on the inside is crap. There were photos included too which came out awful. I've seen better pic quality from an old mimeograph machine. It's only 80 pages and sells for $15.00. There is no way that author will ever make their money back. It's just very poor quality.
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