The Most Inappropriate Bush War Smirk of 2007

[Bravo]

my favorite:

"But this -- we got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to destroy Israel. So I've told people that if you're interested in avoiding [grinning] World War III [end grinning], it seems like you [begin giggling] ought to be interested in preventing them from have the knowledge [end giggling] necessary to make a nuclear weapon."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/the-most-inappropriate-bu_b_78357.html

[blacbird]

my favorite:

"But this -- we got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to destroy Israel. So I've told people that if you're interested in avoiding [grinning] World War III [end grinning], it seems like you [begin giggling] ought to be interested in preventing them from have the knowledge [end giggling] necessary to make a nuclear weapon."

Except you misspelled "nucular".

I was watching a program on tornadoes tonight, in which a north Texas sheriff was interviewed about a twister that had devastated much of his town (Pampa). Standing outside on his main street, in his stetson, with his full-on drawl, he spoke about how it looked like the town had been hit with a nuclear weapon. And he pronounced it correctly. Now, if he can do that, is it too much to ask . . .

caw

[whistlelock]

Yes, yes it is too much to ask of a carpet bagger.

[Robert Toy]

I don't understand the purpose of the Thread.

You can find tons of unflattering pictures of ANYONE.

[Bravo]

I don't understand the purpose of the Thread.

You can find tons of unflattering pictures of ANYONE.

did you even read the title of the thread?

it isnt about unflattering pictures.

[Robert Toy]

did you even read the title of the thread?

it isnt about unflattering pictures.

And the purpose?

[Bravo]

a) to show our president is an idiot.

b) to have a laugh.

so um....laugh.

or not.

but quit trying to find something rail against.

[slcboston]

And the purpose?

*raises hand excitedly*

ooh ooh, I know I know!

*sees someone else has answer*

awww....

[slcboston]

And on a side note, I think Bush is often privately amused by his own statements, and doesn't seem to realize that his mirth is misplaced.

[Bartholomew]

And the purpose?

Bush smiles when most people would cringe. That's pretty much the extent of the statement. I sometimes worry for your level of comprehension.

[Robert Toy]

a) to show our president is an idiot.

b) to have a laugh.

so um....laugh.

or not.

but quit trying to find something rail against.
I notice you did a few edits ;)

Sorry I don’t find it funny. I detest his smirk as well, but that appears to be his natural facial expressions.

Calling any sitting president a dipshit, regardless of what party they represent I find highly disrespectful. I know freedom of speech…blah, blah. I’m certain when your chosen candidate gets into office all will be well.

I just expected better things from you.

[slcboston]

Calling any sitting president a dipshit, regardless of what party they represent I find highly disrespectful. I know freedom of speech…blah, blah. I’m certain when your chosen candidate gets into office all will be well. I just expected better things from you.

Ok, someone needs desperately to take a moment before posting and calm down. This is leaning heavily towards a vitriolic rant.

As for the matter of disrespecting the sitting president: I hate to burst your bubble, but that's been a time honored tradition of American politics since, oh, let me think... John Adams.

(Just in case you're a little weak on your US history, he was President #2.)

Washington was revered and few, if any, said bad things about him, but in contrast Adams was not considered very effective. Disparaging comments about his ability were not uncommon in the Congress and among other leaders, and in many ways led to the divisions that would be the beginnings of the party system we have today. :)

Jefferson, in particular, both inspired and made some very disparaging comments regarding the Presidency, and certainly would have encouraged them as well. Bear in mind, one of the differences between a King and a President was that you COULD speak ill of a President without having to worry about your head coming away from your neck. :D

[blacbird]

in contrast Adams was not considered very effective. Disparaging comments about his ability were not uncommon in the Congress and among other leaders, and in many ways led to the divisions that would be the beginnings of the party system we have today.

A lot of people had problems with John Adams, dating from Revolutionary days. He was a difficult, abrasive and uncompromising man, and had plenty of detractors long before he assumed the Presidency.

caw

[Robert Toy]

Ok, someone needs desperately to take a moment before posting and calm down. This is leaning heavily towards a vitriolic rant.

As for the matter of disrespecting the sitting president: I hate to burst your bubble, but that's been a time honored tradition of American politics since, oh, let me think... John Adams.

(Just in case you're a little weak on your US history, he was President #2.)

Washington was revered and few, if any, said bad things about him, but in contrast Adams was not considered very effective. Disparaging comments about his ability were not uncommon in the Congress and among other leaders, and in many ways led to the divisions that would be the beginnings of the party system we have today. :)

Jefferson, in particular, both inspired and made some very disparaging comments regarding the Presidency, and certainly would have encouraged them as well. Bear in mind, one of the differences between a King and a President was that you COULD speak ill of a President without having to worry about your head coming away from your neck. :D

Why didn't you quote the first part of my post? History lessons I don't need. Thank you

[katiemac]

I suggest everyone partaking in this thread take a moment and seriously consider their words before they post a response. Thank you.

[Bravo]

Sorry I don’t find it funny. I detest his smirk as well, but that appears to be his natural facial expressions.

that doesnt make an ounce of sense. first of all, there's no such thing as a "natural facial expression". that's a meaningless term.

but for the sake of this inane argument if you want to pretend as if bush was born with a smirk on his face, then why isnt he always smirking 24/7? he obviously has moments where he is not.

it's more likely that bush's smirk is a learned defense mechanism to deflect from his inadequete grasp of the english language.

or it's possible that bush is a sociopath.

but to call his smirk a "natural facial expression"?

:ROFL:

sorry, just doesnt make any sense.

Calling any sitting president a dipshit, regardless of what party they represent I find highly disrespectful. I know freedom of speech…blah, blah.

i could care less if it's disrespectful. i dont give a flying fuck about bush, he's an insane, spoiled little brat who has very little grasp of anything going on in this country or the world at large.

and ill make fun of him for that every moment i can.


I’m certain when your chosen candidate gets into office all will be well.



when did i say or imply "all will be well" w/ my chosen candidate? and when did i say i had a chosen candidate?

this is getting tiresome.


I just expected better things from you.

sorry to have disappointed you, but quite frankly, your attempt to be offended or provoked in virtually every single thread here has gotten old.

[robeiae]

but to call his smirk a "natural facial expression"?

:ROFL:

sorry, just doesnt make any sense.
No, you're being silly for the sake of deflecting the criticism--valid or not. People do have "natural expressions," for a lack of a better way to put it. Someone with a James Dean avatar should be aware of this, I think.

As to this entire topic, I find it both low-brow and boring. I mean, if you had a really good shot with a really good joke, that would be one thing. But you have neither.

Merry New Year!

[Robert Toy]

that doesnt make an ounce of sense. first of all, there's no such thing as a "natural facial expression". that's a meaningless term.


Just a bit of light reading (my bold)

http://dmi.uib.es/~ugiv/papers/44780040.pdf
http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=484281
http://www.indiana.edu/~iung/fmriPapers/WEBSTER_2004.pdf
http://members.aol.com/nonverbal3/facialx.htm
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~re227/publications/EnhancedFacialFeatureTracking-HCII2001.pdf

[Bravo]

Calling any sitting president a dipshit, regardless of what party they represent I find highly disrespectful. I know freedom of speech…blah, blah. I’m certain when your chosen candidate gets into office all will be well. I just expected better things from you.



btw, robert, i voted for bush in 2000. :eek:

was pretty disappointed in him w/in the first 6 mos of his term, and got even more disappointed w him after 9/11.

so i'm more than capable of admitting i was wrong about a candidate.

[Bravo]

No, you're being silly for the sake of deflecting the criticism--valid or not. People do have "natural expressions," for a lack of a better way to put it.

it's natural for bush to smirk when he talks about war or about troops dying?

he just can't help it?

well, then that's pretty damn funny (and frightening) to me. sorry.


As to this entire topic, I find it both low-brow and boring. I mean, if you had a really good shot with a really good joke, that would be one thing. But you have neither.


to each his own.

Merry New Year!

merry new year!

[slcboston]

Why didn't you quote the first part of my post? History lessons I don't need. Thank you

A civics lesson then? :D

There seems to be a larger point emerging here about whether it's okay to say bad things about the President. You raise the issue of the First Amendment, but then go on to say it isn't acceptable. While I'm unclear as to where that particular clause was in the Amendment (and could raise another historical point about the Sedition Act), regardless, as a defender of the Amendment I have to concede with more than a little irony that you are entitled to your opinion. :)

I also point out, you're allowed to IGNORE things people say, too. Sometimes that's a better course than getting on your soapbox.

Mostly it was the condescension and the finger wagging that upset me. :)

[Bravo]

Just a bit of light reading (my bold)

http://dmi.uib.es/~ugiv/papers/44780040.pdf
http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=484281
http://www.indiana.edu/~iung/fmriPapers/WEBSTER_2004.pdf
http://members.aol.com/nonverbal3/facialx.htm
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~re227/publications/EnhancedFacialFeatureTracking-HCII2001.pdf


if someone's natural response is to giggle or laugh or smirk when they are talking about war and death, then there is something seriously wrong w that person.

i meant that it was a meaningless term in this context, because we are talking about him smirking in entirely innappropriate moments of his speech.

whateva though.

[Robert Toy]

so i'm more than capable of admitting i was wrong about a candidate.

I'm proud of you for admitting that.

[robeiae]

it's natural for bush to smirk when he talks about war or about troops dying?

he just can't help it?

well, then that's pretty damn funny (and frightening) to me. sorry.Not every facial expression means the same thing for every person. For instance, some people smile when they are really nervous. But not everyone does.

What you are doing here is inferring something from a facial expression (the smirk) that may or may not be correct. And that's fine--we all do that.

Yet, I think Robert Toy's point may be valid--Bush's "smirk" seems very much to be one of his default expressions. So, I don't think the intentions you are attributing to that expression are correct. But, hey, I could be wrong.

Still, it's kinda boring. I mean come on, he does it all the time, by everyone's admission.

[blacbird]

Not every facial expression means the same thing for every person. For instance, some people smile when they are really nervous.

Rudy Giuliani.

But not everyone does.

Dick Cheney.

caw

[Andrew]

And the purpose?

To again, again and again display hatred... why waste your time?

[Bartholomew]

or it's possible that bush is a sociopath.


Bingo.