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Thump
11-24-2007, 05:01 AM
I'm wondering here if there is any law or rule or something pesky like that that would prevent parents from naming two of their children the same thing.

For example: Mrs. Soda has a first son and calls him Fizzy and then she has another son/daughter and also calls him/her Fizzy while the oldest is still alive.

Would this be allowed?

Yeah, this is relevant to something I am writing.

job
11-24-2007, 05:06 AM
I'm pretty sure there's no law that would prevent this in England or the US, always assuming it was not done with the intention of committing fraud.

This used to be common in England, if you go back three or four hundred years.

Zelenka
11-24-2007, 05:10 AM
I don't think it's illegal in Scotland anyway. It was actually common here even as recently as the 50s. In my gran's family there were four sisters, all called Elizabeth on their birth certificates. They just referred to each other as Liz, Lizzie, Betty etc. On granddad's side, it was Alexander - they just called each other Sandy, Alex, whatever.

maxmordon
11-24-2007, 05:23 AM
I doubt it that there is any in US, example number A:

http://www.speaking.com/clientimages/clientimages,f/foremangeorge.jpg

and his sons: George Jr., George III, George IV, George V, and George VI (I wonder what he would have done if he had a girl)

JoniBGoode
11-24-2007, 05:30 AM
I doubt it that there is any in US, example number A:

http://www.speaking.com/clientimages/clientimages,f/foremangeorge.jpg

and his sons: George Jr., George III, George IV, George V, and George VI (I wonder what he would have done if he had a girl)

Great example! I feel certain that if one of them had been a girl, her name would have been Georgie, Georganne, Georgia or Georgette.

sulong
11-24-2007, 05:41 AM
I doubt it that there is any in US, example number A:

http://www.speaking.com/clientimages/clientimages,f/foremangeorge.jpg

and his sons: George Jr., George III, George IV, George V, and George VI (I wonder what he would have done if he had a girl)

Five sons and two of five daughters, all named George.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0286040/bio

jst5150
11-24-2007, 05:44 AM
Portugal has laws that govern what you can name newborn children. I'd bet there are other countries. First Amendment/Constitution protects what parents can name children names in the US.

And fortunately, for about 110 USD, a child can go to court to correct whatever heinous monickers get hung on them by parents whose common sense barometer falls somewhere below "what happens if I jam this sharpened pencil in my eye?" status.

WittyandorIronic
11-24-2007, 09:22 AM
A little OT, but I dated a was engaged to a guy who's last name was Angel. His mother kept telling me to consider "cute" names like "Ima" and "Justin"
/gag

ello
11-24-2007, 11:07 AM
No laws prohibiting this in the US. But certain areas of the world, like Argentina, you are not allowed to name your child a name that would lend to trauma. So they won't let you name a kid "Superman" which is apparently a popular one. So in Argentina, and certain other places that have this law to protect children, "fizzy" might be a problem. Apparently in New Zealand a man was stopped by the New Zealand registry for trying to name his son 4real - so instead he named him Superman.

Maryn
11-24-2007, 07:58 PM
In addition to Forman, baseball player Jose Cruz has multiple sons named Jose Cruz.

Maryn, font of useless knowledge

JoniBGoode
11-25-2007, 08:17 PM
A little OT, but I dated a was engaged to a guy who's last name was Angel. His mother kept telling me to consider "cute" names like "Ima" and "Justin"
/gag


True story. One of the former governors of Texas had the last name of Hogg. His two daughters were named Ima Hogg and Eura Hogg. One of them (Ima, I believe) donated millions of dollars to the University of Texas upon her death.

scarletpeaches
11-25-2007, 08:19 PM
A little OT, but I dated a was engaged to a guy who's last name was Angel. His mother kept telling me to consider "cute" names like "Ima" and "Justin"
/gag

BARF ALERT:

I knew a family, surnamed Angel, who named their firstborn daughter "Precious".

arodriguez
11-25-2007, 08:37 PM
aww how cute

arodriguez
11-25-2007, 08:41 PM
i want to name my next kids :

boys: SteeL, Flint, Spark, Ignite, Grit

girls: Lotus, Veil, Tigra, Luminessa

i think 9 kids ---thats all i can afford.

Stressed
11-25-2007, 09:06 PM
Arenít two of Michael Jacksonís kids called Prince Michael? :D

Cath
11-25-2007, 09:31 PM
Interesting, but I'm not sure we're quite answering the original question any longer. If anyone else has anything to contribute to the legality of giving more than one child the same name, please do dive in.

Soccer Mom
11-26-2007, 05:08 AM
True story. One of the former governors of Texas had the last name of Hogg. His two daughters were named Ima Hogg and Eura Hogg. One of them (Ima, I believe) donated millions of dollars to the University of Texas upon her death.

Ima Hogg was a real person and quite a philanthropist in the Houston area. There was no Eura. That one is an urban myth.


And FWIW: it is perfectly legal in the U.S. to name your children the same thing.

HeronW
12-17-2007, 10:21 PM
Naming children the same was common up to a hundred or so years ago to insure passing the name along in the times of high infant mortality.

George Foreman the boxer currently has ten children; each of his five sons is named George (George Jr., George III, George IV, George V, and George VI).

Voyager
12-17-2007, 10:24 PM
I have a brother named Jose and another named Jose de Jesus. No one cared. I did read an article once where a couple wasn't allowed to name their kid Cabbage Stump, though, and another clueless couple, the Peacocks, who actually named their kid Drew.

C.bronco
12-17-2007, 10:47 PM
Portugal has laws that govern what you can name newborn children. I'd bet there are other countries. First Amendment/Constitution protects what parents can name children names in the US.

And fortunately, for about 110 USD, a child can go to court to correct whatever heinous monickers get hung on them by parents whose common sense barometer falls somewhere below "what happens if I jam this sharpened pencil in my eye?" status.
If I'm not mistaken, France has a similar law. Where's Oswann?

Mike Martyn
12-17-2007, 11:47 PM
No law prevents it in Canada. I know of a Catholic family with twelve kids, six boys and six girls. All the boys have the first name of Joseph and all the girls have the first name of Mary. They answer to their middle names.

C.bronco
12-17-2007, 11:57 PM
i want to name my next kids :

boys: SteeL, Flint, Spark, Ignite, Grit

girls: Lotus, Veil, Tigra, Luminessa

i think 9 kids ---thats all i can afford.
I told people that I was going to name my child either Denver or Ford.

scarletpeaches
12-18-2007, 12:00 AM
I have an interesting 'name' story but you may all poke fun at me for having a heart...

C.bronco
12-18-2007, 12:06 AM
I'll laugh at you beforehand to get it over with: HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA!
Okay, let's hear the story now!

scarletpeaches
12-18-2007, 12:17 AM
Fairy nuff. :)

Years ago I needed to go to the hospickle for some blood tests, and I received a letter saying they wanted me to go back up there immediately. Naturally, I panicked, thought it was bad news, called them up...they refused to tell me anything over the phone and made me wait until my next appointment. Well, by this time I had worked myself up into a right old state, could barely think or see or walk. I was utterly sick with fear. Convinced I had some deadly disease, would die soon, you name it...

Anyway, I went into a quiet corner to try to calm myself down. Pray, meditate, call it what you will. And I remember saying/thinking, "Dear God, if you help me get centred again, and if I ever have a daughter, I'll call her Grace to remind myself of how you got me through this."

So there. SP has a heart after all.

Turns out the blood tests were okley-dokley, and I feel obligated to keep that promise, should I ever have the chance to honour it.

Ariella
12-18-2007, 06:48 AM
Mike Martyn wrote:
No law prevents it in Canada. I know of a Catholic family with twelve kids, six boys and six girls. All the boys have the first name of Joseph and all the girls have the first name of Mary. They answer to their middle names.In Canada, provincial governments have jurisdiction over naming and birth certificates, so the rules for one province may not apply to another. In Quebec, parents may be asked to change a child's name if the registrar thinks that it will expose the child to ridicule. However, the section of the Quebec government website that deals with names doesn't seem to say anything about giving multiple children the same name.