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ottorino
10-24-2007, 01:45 AM
I can't figure out which it is:

A) He had a deep-seated dislike of birds.

B) He had a deep-seeded dislike of birds.

BarbJ
10-24-2007, 02:01 AM
Seat, as in it sits deep within his subconcious. Actually, seed sounds pretty good if someone -like Big Bird - planted the idea. :D

ottorino
10-24-2007, 02:03 AM
Thanks Barb!

CaroGirl
10-24-2007, 02:24 AM
And the winner is:
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=deep-seated&word2=deep-seeded

ottorino
10-24-2007, 02:25 AM
Ha! That's cool!

melaniehoo
10-24-2007, 04:48 AM
Seated sounds right.

Hillary
10-24-2007, 05:24 AM
God bless google - this is so amusing:

According to a Jan. 19 Fox News story from Houston about how "[a]n application form to join a parochial schools group that was sent to Texas Islamic schools has created misunderstanding and anger between local Muslims and Christians",

Iesa Galloway, Houston Executive Director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (search) said the questionnaire was "rooted in deep-seeded ignorance of the religion of Islam and the Muslim people."

For most Americans, "deep-seeded" is pronounced exactly the same way as "deep-seated", due to (what linguists call) flapping and voicing of /t/ in words like seated, as in many other contexts (e.g. in fatter and rabbiting and at all, but not in attack). And in terms of the current ordinary-language meaning of the words involved, "deep-seeded ignorance" makes sense, while "deep-seated ignorance" doesn't. Ignorance can be planted deep and thus have deep metaphorical roots, but deep-seated ignorance would have to be ignorance cut with a lot of room in the crotch, or maybe ignorance sitting in a badly-designed armchair.

Still, Fox News needs better copy editors.

The established phrase is "deep-seated", which is listed in any good dictionary and has 590,000 Google hits, while "deep-seeded" is not listed in any dictionary (at least as far as I've checked), and has only 24,800 Google hits, so that the public vote is 96% for seated, 4% for seeded.

Tee hee hee. I hate Fox News.

Seated all the way.

Voyager
10-24-2007, 05:37 AM
Seeded is so...so seminal, though. snort, ain't I funny? Uhm, no.

melaniehoo
10-24-2007, 05:41 AM
Yes. I love when I find your puns.

I just did one with refuse in another thread. No hijack here...

sunna
10-24-2007, 05:46 AM
Ignorance can be planted deep and thus have deep metaphorical roots, but deep-seated ignorance would have to be ignorance cut with a lot of room in the crotch, or maybe ignorance sitting in a badly-designed armchair.


:ROFL: Oh boy, that just about killed me. I'm still laughing.

Sandi LeFaucheur
10-24-2007, 06:43 AM
Definitions of the verb "seat" from the Collins English dictionary: 15. to place or centre 16. to set firmly in place 17. to fix or install in a position of power. Therefore, if something is deep-seated, it is firmly set in place.

ErylRavenwell
10-24-2007, 07:09 AM
"Deep-rooted", not deep-seeded. "Deep-rooted" is synonymous to "deep-seated".

blacbird
10-24-2007, 08:07 AM
Could be "deep-ceded". You know, when you just give up everything.

caw

Arkie
10-24-2007, 08:35 AM
I think deep-set is a better choice.

Deep-seated indicates a feeling originating far beneath the surface. Birds seem to placid a creature to incur deep-seated animosity.

Deep-set means firmly fixed, as in a chance encounter with a fowl that turned horribly wrong, (that pigeon crapped on my hat) but an encounter that does not necessarily sour one on the entire world of birds.

Ziljon
10-24-2007, 09:42 AM
Or, if your MC looked like Omar Sharif, you could say "His deep-seated disapprobation of all things fowl was apparent in the gleam of his deep-set eyes."

ErylRavenwell
10-24-2007, 12:46 PM
I think deep-set is a better choice.

Deep-seated indicates a feeling originating far beneath the surface. Birds seem to placid a creature to incur deep-seated animosity.

Deep-set means firmly fixed, as in a chance encounter with a fowl that turned horribly wrong, (that pigeon crapped on my hat) but an encounter that does not necessarily sour one on the entire world of birds.

Deep-set? Deep-set is probably better when used as in "deep-set eyes". "Deep-seated" as "deep-seated emotion" is way more popular.