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Sado-macho "last supper" parody and only the latest insult to our military--no Marine recruiting filming. Wow, how goofy can the city leaders be?

Off my travel list for sure.
 

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Having been born, raised, and educated in San Francisco, I cannot express my dismay adequately over what has become of the city I loved. Not only has it been hijacked by mutants whose wirings have a disconnect with reality. Also it's cost of living has driven out middle class families. One example,the middle-lower middle class neighborhood of my childhood is now described in the media as affluent. A result of that is the closing of my beloved elementary school Cabrillo because families with children cannot afford the price of homes or rentals.

A minor anecdote -- the last time I visited, I passed a line of presumably homeless young people leaning against walls and doors on Powell a block from Union Square. When I made eyes contact with one of them, she said, "Thank you for condescending to notice me."

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Sado-macho "last supper" parody and only the latest insult to our military--no Marine recruiting filming. Wow, how goofy can the city leaders be?

Off my travel list for sure.


You know Columbia University, that of the great hallowed institution that invited Aminijihad to speak his point of view, hasn't allowed military recruiters on its campus since Vietnam.

That's right. You only have freedom of speech at Columbia if that speech is anti-american in origin.
 
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Aren't they due for an earthquake?





If I was on radio or TV I would now have to apologize.

People would call for my suspension and/or firing.

"Billy Thrilly wishes that San Francisco would be hit by an earthquake!"

"Radio commentator Billy Thrilly's job is on Shakey Ground."

I'd release a statement.

"I want to apologize for my bad attempt at humor. Although I may have strong opinions regarding many political issues involving the city of San Francisco, I certainly would not want a natural disaster, such as an earthquake to occur. If anyone was hurt or offended by my remarks, especially family members of victims of previous San Francisco earthquakes, once again, I'm truly sorry."
William H. Thrilly 7th
9/29/07
 
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And miss the great french bread, cable cars, vistas, and tradition of fine dining? I shall return and weep over the grave of Cabrillo Elementary.
The one thing that has done the most to ruin San Francisco has been money. Not politics not ideology, not even the Folsom Street Fair.

When the dot com boom hit in the nineties, obscene amounts of cash flowed into the city. Small family businesses -- the Italian Deli, the craft store, the neighborhood shoe repair shop -- that had been operating successfully, though not spectacularly, for years were suddenly faced with fivefold rent increases and more. They were forced out and replaced by internet startups willing and able to pay the freight. Those companies are now mostly gone, but the damage remains. Ironically, the very things that made San Francisco such a desirable place to live were destroyed by the people with the money to enjoy them.

Housing likewise became unaffordable. All these new millionaires moved in, and ordinary people can no longer afford to live here. A teacher or cop or fire fighter in San Francisco simply cannot buy a house or raise a family here any more.

So when you’re looking for a villain to blame the changes in the city on, it’s not the boys in leather, it's the millionaire computer geek and the hedge fund manager and the ubiquitous chain stores.
 

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The one thing that has done the most to ruin San Francisco has been money. Not politics not ideology, not even the Folsom Street Fair.

When the dot com boom hit in the nineties, obscene amounts of cash flowed into the city. Small family businesses -- the Italian Deli, the craft store, the neighborhood shoe repair shop -- that had been operating successfully, though not spectacularly, for years were suddenly faced with fivefold rent increases and more. They were forced out and replaced by internet startups willing and able to pay the freight. Those companies are now mostly gone, but the damage remains. Ironically, the very things that made San Francisco such a desirable place to live were destroyed by the people with the money to enjoy them.

Housing likewise became unaffordable. All these new millionaires moved in, and ordinary people can no longer afford to live here. A teacher or cop or fire fighter in San Francisco simply cannot buy a house or raise a family here any more.

So when you’re looking for a villain to blame the changes in the city on, it’s not the boys in leather, it's the millionaire computer geek and the hedge fund manager and the ubiquitous chain stores.
You can say the same for most any major city/suburb in the US, these days. The cost of housing is astronomical regardless of where you live, coast to coast.

I live in CT and visit my Mom in S. CA, frequently. It's just as bad here, as it is there. And for the very same reasons.

It's a shame to walk down Main Street and not see the Mom and Pop shops, anymore. They've been replaced by what I fondly refer to as, Catalog Row.

So, donroc, you're looking at the wrong villain. It's economics as opposed to a group, or ideals, if you will.
 

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Well, we'll certainly miss you here.

No you won't. And I shall bear no burden of missing you all. It is still a beautiful city though with great food. My family has enjoyed it in the past a great deal. Now it is too far to go see.
 

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You know Columbia University, that of the great hallowed institution that invited Aminijihad to speak his point of view, hasn't allowed military recruiters on its campus since Vietnam.

That's right. You only have freedom of speech at Columbia if that speech is anti-american in origin.

I think it's found on most--I have a few family members who either teach or retired from colleges ranging from Buffalo to Alabama and the hate is wide-spread. One of my uncles, God rest his soul, was a serious lib until the day he died--and he was in the Engineering school! We had some lively debates but at least we showed respect for each other--not so true with many now-a-days. PC and liberalism has largely become the way for most professors. I guess it's easier to bend or remain silent than be alienated among your peers.
Thank goodness I had the opportunity to teach economics a number of quarters and I'm thinking about teaching again. Being an adjunct I wasn't hassled by anyone for what I taught. Then on second thought it wouldn't have been a pleasant experience for anyone trying.
Too old to tolerate mind-numbed, group-think idiots very long.
If you haven't already, you might find David Horowitz to be a good author and source as he explores this problem. His web site is Front Page.
Meanwhile I and others encourage students to tape professors lectures.
 

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You know Columbia University, that of the great hallowed institution that invited Aminijihad to speak his point of view, hasn't allowed military recruiters on its campus since Vietnam.

That's right. You only have freedom of speech at Columbia if that speech is anti-american in origin.

I still think you're missing the point of what transpired there.

We allowed the guy to speak there.

The president who introduced him called him a petty dictator and an idiot for having trouble believing in the Holocaust. He responded by ranting about disinformation and later said his country didn't have homosexuals, which inspired the audience to laugh their asses off.

In the end, we looked like the bigger person for it. And he looked like a petty, small-minded jackass. So no, perhaps he didn't need to speak there. But we didnt look the worse for it in the slightest.
 

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I still think you're missing the point of what transpired there.

We allowed the guy to speak there.

The president who introduced him called him a petty dictator and an idiot for having trouble believing in the Holocaust. He responded by ranting about disinformation and later said his country didn't have homosexuals, which inspired the audience to laugh their asses off.

In the end, we looked like the bigger person for it. And he looked like a petty, small-minded jackass. So no, perhaps he didn't need to speak there. But we didnt look the worse for it in the slightest.

Behaving like a name-calling twelve year old doesn't make anybody look like the bigger person.

All it did was underscore how ill-mannered Americans are, that an educational institution would INVITE a head of state - not for a discussion - but to be the object of ridicule and laughter. It showed the world what boors we can be, and that's really a shame.
 

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Behaving like a name-calling twelve year old doesn't make anybody look like the bigger person.

All it did was underscore how ill-mannered Americans are, that an educational institution would INVITE a head of state - not for a discussion - but to be the object of ridicule and laughter. It showed the world what boors we can be, and that's really a shame.
Correction: It showed how one individual can be ill-mannered, not all Americans.

Thank you for not categorizing all of us, since we didn't all make the introduction.
 

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Behaving like a name-calling twelve year old doesn't make anybody look like the bigger person.

All it did was underscore how ill-mannered Americans are, that an educational institution would INVITE a head of state - not for a discussion - but to be the object of ridicule and laughter. It showed the world what boors we can be, and that's really a shame.


Bull.

The guy didn't say he smelled bad, had cooties, that his mom was a whore, yada yada. He put a tough label on him and threw some tough questions at him, too. No, in this instance I think we turned out well.
 

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Correction: It showed how one individual can be ill-mannered, not all Americans.

Thank you for not categorizing all of us, since we didn't all make the introduction.
And, if I'd had the opportunity to make the intro, I'd have called him a murdering, human repressing son of a bitch who, essentially had no right to live, much less address freedom-loving learning institution such as Columbia. That it was a big mistake/bad dream and to please leave prior to embarrassing himself any worse than he already had.

Latte anyone :D
 

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Bull.

The guy didn't say he smelled bad, had cooties, that his mom was a whore, yada yada. He put a tough label on him and threw some tough questions at him, too. No, in this instance I think we turned out well.


Turned out well for you. Made us look like spiders to cultures that pride themselves on manners.
 

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NOTE: please label links of questionable character as NOT WORK SAFE as now my company's Network Nazi software has me labeled as visiting a porn site.
My sincere apologies, Roger. I didn't even think of that. It was not a random link; it was referencing exactly what started the thread and it's certainly not a porn site, but I will be more careful in the future.
 

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My sincere apologies, Roger. I didn't even think of that. It was not a random link; it was referencing exactly what started the thread and it's certainly not a porn site, but I will be more careful in the future.
I know. I didn't mean it as a scold, just a reminder. I need to be more careful too, especially here. :)
 

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Turned out well for you. Made us look like spiders to cultures that pride themselves on manners.


The cultures you're speaking of already view us terribly based on any number of other more questionable things we're doing. Making Ahmadinejad look like a jerk, largely of his own doing, is maybe #6581 on that list.
 
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