Viet Nam Memorial defaced...

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Who knows why somebody would do something like this. It seems less like a political statement and more like the type of thing a kook does in a museum, trying to damage a famous painting.

Regardless, it's a deplorable thing to do. It appears the acid failed to delete the names of those soldiers that served and sacrificed - the Memorial's timelessness speaking for itself in that regard - but I'm sure it will be an arduous repair.

Awful.
 

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Who knows why somebody would do something like this. It seems less like a political statement and more like the type of thing a kook does in a museum, trying to damage a famous painting.

Regardless, it's a deplorable thing to do. It appears the acid failed to delete the names of those soldiers that served and sacrificed - the Memorial's timelessness speaking for itself in that regard - but I'm sure it will be an arduous repair.

Awful.

Not only that, the woman who designed and helped to build it would be upset to the idea of someone destroying her work. I remember studying the Vietnam Memorial in my contemporary art class last year.

Sad. :( People can be so cruel.
 

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Not only that, the woman who designed and helped to build it would be upset to the idea of someone destroying her work. I remember studying the Vietnam Memorial in my contemporary art class last year.

I'm sure she would be upset.


However, in truth, I'm less concerned about the defacement of her work per se, than what the Memorial represents to millions of Americans.
 

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I'm sure she would be upset.


However, in truth, I'm less concerned about the defacement of her work per se, than what the Memorial represents to millions of Americans.


So true. Though as a fellow artist to her, the way I feel about it is not only from a sentimental standpoint, but also an artistic standpoint; I'd be very much upset if someone did that to my work, regardless of the symbolism that it stands for.
 

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As a monumental piece of moving 20th Century art - and as a moving memorial to those who served and fell, the Wall is an iconic piece of our culture.

Defacement of it leaves me speechless with rage, and wordless with grief.

Only someone with a deranged mind could have done this.
 

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Having not been in vietnam, to vietnam, or even alive when the war was in its hardest years... I was profoundly moved by the wall when I visited it a few summers ago.

I have to believe this is the work of punk-ass kids with no sense of value or morality. The kind of kids who should have been spanked. Who probably have parents who are also kids.

So sad.
 

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Thank you all and may your day be bright and writing be strong.
 

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Having not been in vietnam, to vietnam, or even alive when the war was in its hardest years... I was profoundly moved by the wall when I visited it a few summers ago.

I felt the same way when I saw it. I was moved to tears.

For someone to deface it is disgusting. I hope they catch who did it.
 

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I don't get it. Where's the damage?

It looks more like someone sprayed it with coke. Granite is quite resistant to damage, btw.
 
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I don't get it. Where's the damage?
Actually, me neither. And there isn't a single story that I can find about vandalism. Perhaps it was an accident with cleaning chemicals that caused some superficial staining? I don't know. But nothing in the pictures really suggests vandalism, to me.
 

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This gets me every time I hear it:

Facing It
by Yusef Komunyakaa


My black face fades,
hiding inside the black granite.
I said I wouldn't,
dammit: No tears.
I'm stone. I'm flesh.
My clouded reflection eyes me
like a bird of prey, the profile of night
slanted against morning. I turn
this way--the stone lets me go.
I turn that way--I'm inside
the Vietnam Veterans Memorial
again, depending on the light
to make a difference.
I go down the 58,022 names,
half-expecting to find
my own in letters like smoke.
I touch the name Andrew Johnson;
I see the booby trap's white flash.
Names shimmer on a woman's blouse
but when she walks away
the names stay on the wall.
Brushstrokes flash, a red bird's
wings cutting across my stare.
The sky. A plane in the sky.
A white vet's image floats
closer to me, then his pale eyes
look through mine. I'm a window.
He's lost his right arm
inside the stone. In the black mirror
a woman's trying to erase names:
No, she's brushing a boy's hair.

 

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Someone apparently had an accident with a coke, and you're talking about holding guts in your hands?
Um, you might try and think that Davids is a Vietnam vet, Julie. Did it occur to you that some of his buddies' names are on that wall? As are Andrew's and Kate's. Probably not. Could be why they're a tad sensitive about someone having an accident w/ a can of liquid...got it?

Some of us were alive during that war.
 

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From what I understand it was done for a good length and the substance did etch into the names. For what its worth.
 

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As a ex Brit Soldier I would just say that if anyone as defaced the monument it is a absolute disgrace.
Bernie
 

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From what I understand it was done for a good length and the substance did etch into the names. For what its worth.

Still no story on it. However, a memorial was defaced in Andover a few days ago. And that one was more than Coke.
 

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From what I understand it was done for a good length and the substance did etch into the names. For what its worth.

Can you show us where you got this information? It isn't even in the link you posted. I just did what Rob did, and he's right, I don't see anything.
 

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Um, you might try and think that Davids is a Vietnam vet, Julie. Did it occur to you that some of his buddies' names are on that wall? As are Andrew's and Kate's. Probably not. Could be why they're a tad sensitive about someone having an accident w/ a can of liquid...got it?

Some of us were alive during that war.

Jean, she's asking a very specific question, not pooh-poohing it as if vandalism is cool and fun and hooray.
 

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Someone apparently had an accident with a coke, and you're talking about holding guts in your hands?


I deleted the damned post-yah I was and forget it it is not important!

Those silly kids are always standing in front of war memorials shaking their cokes and placing a finger over the opening-they are always doing that those silly Billys!!
 
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