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reigningcatsndogs
08-09-2007, 11:56 PM
As a Canadian, I can't vote in the 'who would I vote for' poll, but as a neighbour, I would really be interested in who your 'dream candidate' would be? Is there someone who, if they were to be approached, you would gladly wave a banner or don a campaign button for? Would you take Bill Clinton back, or would you want to see Jesse Jackson or Colin Powell or Arnie or Martin Sheen? What exactly are you looking for in your candidate that you aren't finding in the ones you are presently confronted with?

BTW -- Any that are listed and not used, I may start a Canadian movement to get up here, because we are also sadly lacking for credible candidates!!! We're open to any and all suggestions!!

Joe270
08-10-2007, 12:02 AM
Pedro, of course.

maestrowork
08-10-2007, 12:25 AM
SpongeBob Squarepants.

reigningcatsndogs
08-10-2007, 01:27 AM
SpongeBob Squarepants.
ah! so status quo then

RumpleTumbler
08-10-2007, 01:33 AM
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/5146/barneyfu0.jpg

Unique
08-10-2007, 03:03 AM
William Haskins.

Bird of Prey
08-10-2007, 03:19 AM
Well, if we could choose those no longer alive, I'd say Norman Thomas. He was a progressive enough thinker that he might just do for the 2008 presidency.

Of course, he would scare the heck out of conservatives. Still, what I really liked about him was his decency, and I doubt too many could argue with that.

Bird of Prey
08-10-2007, 03:44 AM
Here's the thread. I think my alive choice would be Glen Greenwald. I mean there's so many choices. . . .

MattW
08-10-2007, 04:03 AM
Chuck Norris.

William Haskins
08-10-2007, 04:09 AM
Well, if we could choose those no longer alive, I'd say Norman Thomas.

oh lord.

dclary
08-10-2007, 04:13 AM
Quite obviously, Dick Cheney. Duh.

Bird of Prey
08-10-2007, 04:14 AM
oh lord.

Lol! Well at least you know who he is.

KTC
08-10-2007, 04:16 AM
I'd vote for Tim Horton. Sadly, he is dead.

I am still praying for the actuality of having my all time favourite goalie on the ballot. I WILL break my no-voting rule to vote for Ken Dryden. He can run for the WHATEVER THE HELL party...I'd still vote for him. But, hey, that's just me.

Bird of Prey
08-10-2007, 04:21 AM
I'd vote for Tim Horton. Sadly, he is dead.

I am still praying for the actuality of having my all time favourite goalie on the ballot. I WILL break my no-voting rule to vote for Ken Dryden. He can run for the WHATEVER THE HELL party...I'd still vote for him. But, hey, that's just me.


Excuse me, wasn't Tim Horton a hockey player? Yes, he was. I just checked.

A hockey player for president?

Bird of Prey
08-10-2007, 04:23 AM
Well, so far, I would say Norman Thomas is a cut above the illustrious choices presented in this thread. Thank you. I rest my case.

MattW
08-10-2007, 04:24 AM
A hockey player that makes coffee and donuts?

William Haskins
08-10-2007, 04:24 AM
Lol! Well at least you know who he is.

you do realize that, had we not entered WW2, the germans would have likely taken england and europe would have fallen to fascism.

both the nazis and the communists would have had sufficient footholds to guarantee that, regardless of which one eventually prevailed, democracy as we know it would be dead in europe.

america should never (and thankfully will never) elect a idealogical pacifist to the be its president.

Bird of Prey
08-10-2007, 04:26 AM
you do realize that, had we not entered WW2, the germans would have likely taken england and europe would have fallen to fascism.

both the nazis and the communists would have had sufficient footholds to guarantee that, regardless of which one eventually prevailed, democracy as we know it would be dead in europe.

america should never (and thankfully will never) elect a idealogical pacifist to the be its president.

He supported the war after Pearl Harbor, Mr. Haskins. He was honorable enough to realize his error.

KTC
08-10-2007, 04:30 AM
A hockey player that makes coffee and donuts?

Ah, yes. This is the crucial bit!

William Haskins
08-10-2007, 04:38 AM
He supported the war after Pearl Harbor, Mr. Haskins. He was honorable enough to realize his error.

he paid it lip service, but as part of america first, he subscribed to a doctrine of staying out of the european war.

even so, your champion of the common man was a eugenist who advocated eliminating "unfit types" and sought to restrict reproduction by "those of a definitely inferior stock".

Bird of Prey
08-10-2007, 04:58 AM
he paid it lip service, but as part of america first, he subscribed to a doctrine of staying out of the european war.

even so, your champion of the common man was a eugenist who advocated eliminating "unfit types" and sought to restrict reproduction by "those of a definitely inferior stock".

He was adamantly opposed to Japanese internment camps!!

Edit: And he was a proponent of granting citizenship to Jewish refugees BEFORE it was nationally accepted.

Now I'm really pissed. Where are you getting your information?

William Haskins
08-10-2007, 05:05 AM
do a little research on his views on population control, sterilization and "elimination" of certain types.

edited to add: !!

Bird of Prey
08-10-2007, 05:07 AM
do a little research on his views on population control, sterilization and "elimination" of certain types.

edited to add: !!


Nonsense. Blackballed at best. I've read his stuff, Mr. Haskins.

Sheryl Nantus
08-10-2007, 05:15 AM
I'm with Lewis Black when I say... Ronald Reagan.

it'll scare the jeebies out of the world when the US elects a Dead President.

:D

btw, we've got hockey players in the Canadian Senate...

beat that!

;)

William Haskins
08-10-2007, 05:15 AM
"Birth Control will not automatically regulate this question of proportionate increase of population as between nations, races and classes, but it will make possible such regulation without the practice of cruelty and without the appeal to a restraint that will not be widely practiced ... Eugenics cannot produce supermen; it can eliminate certain manifestly unfit types, and improve the general physical standard." - Norman Thomas, in an address to the New York Legislative Conference, 1923

kristie911
08-10-2007, 05:25 AM
I'm with Lewis Black when I say... Ronald Reagan.



Actually, I would vote for Lewis Black. :D

Bird of Prey
08-10-2007, 05:27 AM
"Birth Control will not automatically regulate this question of proportionate increase of population as between nations, races and classes, but it will make possible such regulation without the practice of cruelty and without the appeal to a restraint that will not be widely practiced ... Eugenics cannot produce supermen; it can eliminate certain manifestly unfit types, and improve the general physical standard." - Norman Thomas, in an address to the New York Legislative Conference, 1923

Wait a minute. Context please. Give me a break.

He was addressing birth control in an age where often horrible and fatal defects were absolutely unchecked. There was no alternative; no prenatal, no nothing. It was 1923, remember?

And let me remind you that he grew enormously in the years that followed, which included compassion, which is not exactly an overriding trait in anyone under thirty.

Beyond that, he wanted to embrace the so-called "genetically inferior" Jews as American citizens when nobody else did. How do you explain that?

William Haskins
08-10-2007, 05:34 AM
the context is inherent in the language.

Bird of Prey
08-10-2007, 05:43 AM
the context is inherent in the language.

Come on, William. Inherent?

1923, eh? Please. See the man in the span of his years and in the context of the age in which he lived. Maybe you hate his isolationism but give him his due. He was a man that ultimately outpaced his age both literally. . . .and literally.

William Haskins
08-10-2007, 05:49 AM
"Birth Control will not automatically regulate this question of proportionate increase of population as between nations, races and classes, but it will make possible such regulation without the practice of cruelty and without the appeal to a restraint that will not be widely practiced ...

"an appeal to restraint" would mean that choice and control lie with the individual. he saw that as insufficient. to regulate without a reliance on the infallibility of personal choice is, by its very nature coercive and/or imposed.

Eugenics cannot produce supermen;

assuming he knew the meaning of the word (i'll give him the benefit of the doubt), then he has here excluded the practice of "positive eugenics", which leaves only "negative eugenics.

it can eliminate certain manifestly unfit types, and improve the general physical standard.

was mr. thomas the man who would judge who was among the "manifestly unfit types"? if not him, then who?

regardless, i don't care what heroes you choose to worship. that said, there's little more fun in life that stirring up the righteous indignation of a socialist.

Bird of Prey
08-10-2007, 05:55 AM
William, there's a reason why a president has to be of a certain age. Prior to that age, he's entitled to an exploration of ideas which is exactly what all young people do.

35 isn't it? Minimum age of the president? Am I right?

He was somewhere in his twenties when he wrote that, regardless of how you are construing his intent.

William Haskins
08-10-2007, 05:56 AM
"youthful indiscretion"?

Bird of Prey
08-10-2007, 06:03 AM
Fine. I'll give you that, even though I believe you're unfairly indicting him into the "he's-a-shithead-cause-what-he-really-meant-is-open-to-interpretation" lot.

which I think even you will admit means nothing given his overall record.

Joe270
08-10-2007, 06:12 AM
Ya'll are arguing about a dude who's been dead for forty years, for cryin' out loud.

How about fighting about the socialists who are running now? Politics and current events ring a bell.

And Barney is a pedophile.

William Haskins
08-10-2007, 06:16 AM
the american eugenics movement of the early 20th century was a cesspool. thomas swam in it.

but to get things back on topic, the only person qualified and capable of leading america is...


... that's right...


....my girl...





http://www.thestencil.com/archives/images/hillary_clinton.jpg





http://wso.williams.edu/PhotoShare/image?photo_id=8298&size=thumb&album_id=174

Bird of Prey
08-10-2007, 06:25 AM
At some point, you will understand that even Hillary Clinton cannot send you a clear and concise message regarding national hope and personal good will without you first clearing your pm box.

William Haskins
08-10-2007, 06:28 AM
i don't believe in either of those things, but i'll clear out my inbox as a sign of good will.

still, you have to admit that the photo of soon-to-be president clinton delivering a lecture on ball-tickling is riveting.

Bird of Prey
08-10-2007, 06:36 AM
i don't believe in either of those things, but i'll clear out my inbox as a sign of good will.

still, you have to admit that the photo of soon-to-be president clinton delivering a lecture on ball-tickling is riveting.

OMG. Lol!!

You bastard. Riveting only with your subtitles. Jee willies. . . Lol. . . . .

Sohia Rose
08-10-2007, 07:09 AM
Im voting for Hillary Clinton, but Id love to see her run with Condoleezza Rice as her vice president. I love to watch powerful women do their thing. :)

Interestingly, I was watching New York City Mayor Bloomberg a couple of weeks ago on TV, and thought to myself, I think I like him. Hed be an interesting presidential candidate and I might jump ship if he chose to run.'

poetinahat
08-10-2007, 07:12 AM
btw, we've got hockey players in the Canadian Senate...

beat that!

;)
How 'bout rock stars in Parliament? (Peter Garrett (http://www.petergarrett.com.au/) -- lead singer of Midnight Oil, Labor Party MP for the seat of Kingsford Smith; Shadow Minister for Climate Change, Environment and Heritage; Shadow Minister for the Arts)

And back to the US:
Basketball players in the US Senate -- Bill Bradley
Football players on a State Supreme Court -- Alan Page, Minnesota
Football players on the US Supreme Court -- Byron "Whizzer" White
Pro wrestlers as state governors -- Jesse "The Body" Ventura


"This is AMERICA, goddammit! Reagan's President, and Clint Eastwood has his own police force."
-- Sam Kinison, ca. 1986.

Writer2011
08-10-2007, 09:45 AM
No one...obviously anyone who runs for President is never "good enough". They always have some kind of past whether it be a D.U.I, or married to a stripper or they smoked weed.. I mean we ALL do things we're not proud of but that doesn't give anyone the right to condemn a person.

So whomever runs for President, lets not fault them for things they've done in the past. And let's not harp on their policies and such. They are, after all human. Try putting yourself in their shoes..Would you be able to do the job better?

Now i'm not saying EVERYONE is like this...but there are those out there who don't like Presidents b/c of their past or what not.

Anyway, that's my take on it.

blacbird
08-10-2007, 09:52 AM
I'm with Lewis Black when I say... Ronald Reagan.

Uhhh . . . pssst, Sheryl . . . Lewis Black is a notorious leftist, addicted to sarcasm and irony.

btw, we've got hockey players in the Canadian Senate...

beat that!

Okay. We got a Hall-of-Fame baseball pitcher ,who is one of the eleven pitchers in 150 years of Major League baseball history to have pitched a perfect game, in the U.S. Senate. Jim Bunning, R-Kentucky. He's a notorious moron, even among Republicans, famed mainly for uttering nonsensical statements, but he was a hell of a baseball pitcher back in the 1960s.

caw

CACTUSWENDY
08-10-2007, 09:59 AM
Oh please, no H. Clinton.

Please....Please.....Please.....Please.....etc. etc.

My-Immortal
08-10-2007, 11:38 AM
"This is AMERICA, goddammit! Reagan's President, and Clint Eastwood has his own police force."
-- Sam Kinison, ca. 1986.

Clint Eastwood

(Okay, I don't know his politics...but...it's Clint. At the very least, he'd probably be one of the coolest presidents ever....)

(Sorry, it's late, I'm tired, I'll go to sleep now)

Back to the serious discussion...

Xx|e|ph|e|me|r|al|xX
08-10-2007, 12:20 PM
Xx|John Wilmont (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wilmont%20_2nd_earl_of_rochester), as long as we're vying for the dead.

Actually, that'd be horrible. XD All the same...

I'd probably say my father. Heh. He's good. :)

If not, then him (http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n140/FallenAgain/MorrisPrez08.jpg). :D|xX

Andrew
08-10-2007, 02:43 PM
I like Lewis Black too. He's one of the funniest... does anyone know if he writes his own stuff?
We know the current crop of candidates don't.

RumpleTumbler
08-10-2007, 03:04 PM
And Barney is a pedophile.

Barney says watch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGkr6PxV1MI) my campaign video.

maestrowork
08-10-2007, 06:38 PM
http://www.thestencil.com/archives/images/hillary_clinton.jpg


Hmmm, to be honest, she's a very attractive woman (in that picture). Smart, too. Just don't think I can trust her.


And to be honest, I think as much as I am not particularly impressed with any candidate yet, anyone is better than the guy who's in the White House now.

So maybe there is hope.

dclary
08-10-2007, 06:55 PM
Hmmm, to be honest, she's a very attractive woman (in that picture). Smart, too. Just don't think I can trust her.


And to be honest, I think as much as I am not particularly impressed with any candidate yet, anyone is better than the guy who's in the White House now.

So maybe there is hope.

That picture was taken when Angela Lansbury was hot.

Sheryl Nantus
08-10-2007, 07:07 PM
or, of course... my fav!

http://www.geocities.com/xfdragon/kimforprez_button.gif

Inkdaub
08-11-2007, 03:00 PM
Howard Dean is my man.