Lindsay in trouble again

[robeiae]

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=3408314&page=1

DUI, driving with a suspended license, drug possession. All this after just coming out of rehab.

Obviously, this kind of stuff is not confined to her. And obviously, young Hollywood stars are prone to this. But what about all this rehab such people keep getting? Does she get a refund?

[RumpleTumbler]

People go to rehab for image damage control and to avoid jail time. If they really wanted to quit drinking and doing drugs they would do it sans rehab.

[tourdeforce]

Maybe I am alone on this but I like my Hollywood starlets messed up, drunk and wild and forgetting to wear their bras and panties.

[RumpleTumbler]

What I don't understand is why they don't just hire someone to drive for them when they go out drinking, It isn't like they can't afford it.

[tourdeforce]

What I don't understand is why they don't just hire someone to drive for them when they go out drinking, It isn't like they can't afford it.


I blame the American car companies for this because they make commercials promoting the American spirit of freedom on the open road. That's like giving out crack wrapped up as bubblegum in a schoolyard.

The CEO's of the Big Three should be doing 30 years hard time under the Rockefeller Laws for distributing narcotics.

[RLB]

What I don't understand is why they don't just hire someone to drive for them when they go out drinking, It isn't like they can't afford it.

I agree, this level of stupidity is hard to understand. Most in our species possess the ability to learn from our mistakes.

But what's the point of being a beloved starlet if you can't crash into things in your sexy little sports car? At least they're not driving Hummers while drunk.

[eldragon]

Agreed about hiring a driver.

About rehab: the deal is, as long as they are in there, they promise to quit using, so they can get out. While in there, the conversation and group thereapy is on drugs and alcohol and being high. While they are supposed to focus on the negative aspects of it, they can't help but think of positive aspects, too.

I recently had a clinical in a lock-down unit full of crack-heads, prostitutes, and the like. Even life-long users swear they are finished with it. But as soon as they get out, the crack dealer gets them. Their friends get them. Unless they can go live on another planet - it's unlikely they will succeed.


Lindsay Lohan looks like she's on a mission to kill herself. Then we'll never hear the end of her.

[RumpleTumbler]

The cops in Los Angeles have to be watching these folks as well.

I don't buy that Lindsay Lohan or Paris Hilton are pulled over as much as they are by chance.

That makes the cops assholes. If they wanted to pull over people who were DUI as they were leaving clubs they couldn't hire enough offices to do the job so it's discriminatory.

[tourdeforce]

From a future earnings perspective, I really hope that no pornstar has already snatched up 'Lindsay Lohan' as her screen name because I think that our favorite train wreck is heading in that direction if she hopes to make a living in her thirties.

I would hate to see her have to use a play on the the name of some other starlet like "Hillary Fluff", "Mandy More" or even, god forbid, "Shia La Buff".

[Celia Cyanide]

Obviously, this kind of stuff is not confined to her. And obviously, young Hollywood stars are prone to this.

Just a point, I doubt young Hollywood stars are more prone to this than anyone else. It's just that we hear about it more.

And tour, I do like my celebrity trainwrecks, but I prefer some originality. Like Pete Dougherty, that cat who was in the Libertines. That dude is effed up.

[RumpleTumbler]

:) The Smoking Gun already has the mugshot.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/lohanmug1.html

[robeiae]

Just a point, I doubt young Hollywood stars are more prone to this than anyone else. It's just that we hear about it more.Maybe. But who has the money for drugs, new cars, clubbing, bail, and rehab?

[RumpleTumbler]

Maybe. But who has the money for drugs, new cars, clubbing, bail, and rehab?

Celia will after "Cave women on Mars" is number one at the box office for 30 consecutive weeks.

[Celia Cyanide]

Maybe. But who has the money for drugs, new cars, clubbing, bail, and rehab?

Mom and Dad. It's easier for young cute girls to get into clubs, and get drugs, for free than you might think.

[tourdeforce]

On another note, I have always wondered about the legality of clubs having a line and selecting who gets in and who does not.

How is that allowed?

[robeiae]

Mom and Dad. It's easier for young cute girls to get into clubs, and get drugs, for free than you might think.
No, I understand that. And I know the crowd--they live all around me and I see them in Starbucks with bloodshot eyes, getting Frappacinos at noon to wake up.

But it's still a tiny portion of the population. And I didn't say the Hollywood crowd was more prone, of course. I'm happy to include the rest who live in such world. :)

[Celia Cyanide]

On another note, I have always wondered about the legality of clubs having a line and selecting who gets in and who does not.

How is that allowed?

I work at a club, one that does not do that. The ones that do call it a "dress code." They have a long list of what you can't wear, and then add, "or anything else we deem unacceptable." It's just an excuse for snobbery. If you own a club, and you do that, I don't care if you'll let me in or not, I don't want to go inside.

The dress code makes it legal, but it shouldn't be.

[Celia Cyanide]

Celia will after "Cave women on Mars" is number one at the box office for 30 consecutive weeks.

Will I? Do you know something about my contract that I do not? Sweet! :)

[BenPanced]

On another note, I have always wondered about the legality of clubs having a line and selecting who gets in and who does not.

How is that allowed?
The same way the sign in the greasy spoon that says "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone."

[whistlelock]

I wonder how much money the state could save if they started reusing mug shots?

[oswann]

The cops in Los Angeles have to be watching these folks as well.

I don't buy that Lindsay Lohan or Paris Hilton are pulled over as much as they are by chance.

That makes the cops assholes. If they wanted to pull over people who were DUI as they were leaving clubs they couldn't hire enough offices to do the job so it's discriminatory.

You can spot them by the trail of papparazzi in their wake. I figure the cops take bets to see which of them can get their dial photographed whilst booking them.

Os.

[eldragon]

:) The Smoking Gun already has the mugshot.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/lohanmug1.html


That's a hilarious website!

(Celia ...Ed Furlong is on there....................)

[Plot Device]

:) The Smoking Gun already has the mugshot.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/lohanmug1.html


Wow! Mighty flattering for a mugshot! I just love the way she looks here, freckles and all!




::ETA::

And then of course, there's THIS mugshot. One of the most famous -- and least flattering-- of any mugshot in Hollywood history.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/nolte1.html

[Celia Cyanide]

That's a hilarious website!

(Celia ...Ed Furlong is on there....................)

Oh, you leave Eddie alone! What kind of world is it where you can't even run around drunk in a superstore setting lobsters free anymore? ;)

[eldragon]

I don't know, Celia.

But he should have been arrested for the terrible 80's movie "A home of our own," with Kathy Bates.

God.


(Line up - Lacey Tribe!)

[Celia Cyanide]

I don't know, Celia.

But he should have been arrested for the terrible 80's movie "A home of our own," with Kathy Bates.

God.


(Line up - Lacey Tribe!)

Are you kidding? That is so far off the mark of Eddie's worst movie. That was before his chemical dependency problems and all.

[tourdeforce]

Is Furlong still partying with the Vulcan chick from Enterprise?

[Jean Marie]

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=3408314&page=1

DUI, driving with a suspended license, drug possession. All this after just coming out of rehab.

Obviously, this kind of stuff is not confined to her. And obviously, young Hollywood stars are prone to this. But what about all this rehab such people keep getting? Does she get a refund?
It's not the rehab, Rob, it's her. Besides, they said on the news this am, that drugs were being sneaked in to her while she was in rehab. That part is the fault of the rehab, most definitely. They, obviously weren't paying close attention to her visitors, or her.

Other than that, you can't make an alcoholic/addict get sober. It's up to them, when they're ready. Apparently, Lohan's not ready, just yet.

As for her driving, she's damn lucky she hasn't killed anyone. Again, yet. And, I agree w/ the kind of $ she has, she should have a driver. Of course, that wouldn't help her drinking/drug problem.

It was her publicist's mother that she was chasing, btw. The mother is the one who called the cops. The cops found them, outside of the cars, arguing. Who knows what about. That info, they haven't released, as far as I know.

[MattW]

How is it people can get a pass for criminal drug/drunk behavior by going to rehab, and then not face stiffer penalties when they violate the rules of rehab or worse still, repeat the offense?

I know that I might have access to a mid-tier rehab center if I have a problem, but I doubt a court would ever give me the chance instead of serving time for reckless driving.

[tourdeforce]

I only wish that I could get busted on DUI and drug charges (or better yet, gun charges). My street cred around AW would go through the roof.

[Celia Cyanide]

How is it people can get a pass for criminal drug/drunk behavior by going to rehab, and then not face stiffer penalties when they violate the rules of rehab or worse still, repeat the offense?

Who's to say she won't face a stiffer penalty?

[Jean Marie]

Who's to say she won't face a stiffer penalty?
Right.

Many times, the sentence is combined w/ rehab. Or, the individual has to go to a certain amount of AA meetings following rehab.

In Lohan's situation, I'd be surprised if she doesn't lose her license for a long time, since this is her second DUI, in such a short time. And, she'll probably end up in jail, too.

Her dad's sober, but her mom goes partying w/ her. Go figure!

[Justin91]

I bet Paris is saying to herself, "That bitch better go to jail!" :D

[BenPanced]

Hey, my wart is almost gone!

[blacbird]

I bet Paris is saying to herself, "That bitch better go to jail!" :D

Not. Paris is now miffed because Lindsay is stealing her notoriety spotlight, and now she'll have to find something even more spectacularly stupid to do.

caw

[MattW]

In Lohan's situation, I'd be surprised if she doesn't lose her license for a long time, since this is her second DUI, in such a short time.Do you really think if she loses her license, that she will stop driving? Didn't stop Paris.

Does she actually have to kill someone before the judicial kid gloves are taken off?

[MattW]

Not. Paris is now miffed because Lindsay is stealing her notoriety spotlight, and now she'll have to find something even more spectacularly stupid to doAnd I bet she knows just the right people to cook up the right scheme.

Quick - the Brit Cave!

[tourdeforce]

No completion bond company will ever guarantee her (at least in the forseeable future).

[rubarbb]

Put her in jail, maybe that will be the only way to help her,hopefully...

[PattiTheWicked]

Personally, I'm glad Lindsey got arrested again. It means three to four days without Posh'n'Becks being on the cover of every magazine.

Wait a couple of weeks, Britney will forget her underpants again, and Lindsey will be old news.

[Jean Marie]

Do you really think if she loses her license, that she will stop driving? Didn't stop Paris.

Does she actually have to kill someone before the judicial kid gloves are taken off?
It might, and it might not. But, it's probably where the judge will start along w/ a jail sentence, I'm guessing. It's her 2nd DUI, and she had cocaine in her pocket.

At least I hope the judge puts her in jail so she does not have the opportunity to kill someone. A judge along the lines of the one Paris had--one that isn't blinded by celebrity's, would fit the bill nicely.


Put her in jail, maybe that will be the only way to help her,hopefully...
My thoughts, exactly.

Maybe, that's the kind of rehab that will take.

[Justin91]

Who cares? Do you think what she does or doesn't do has the slightest effect on the world today? Do you really want to focus on somebody that you don't even know - focus even for an instant - on someone that has absolutely no bearing on you or your family's future?


Your paddling upstream in a gushing torrent my friend! Might as well jump on board and give Lindsay some love like the rest of us...

Come on...you know you wanna;)

[Jean Marie]

Who cares? Do you think what she does or doesn't do has the slightest effect on the world today? Do you really want to focus on somebody that you don't even know - focus even for an instant - on someone that has absolutely no bearing on you or your family's future?
Yes, it's important and I'll tell you why.

The DUI laws in this country remain too loose, and too many people die as a result.

Individuals such as Paris and Lohan bring this to the front page, and get more people talking about it. Talking is the beginning of changing/tightening laws and legislation = saving lives.

[Jean Marie]

But then, you'd have to actually be in EMS and p/u victims, or scrape 'em up, of drunk driving accidents to fully comprehend my post.

[tourdeforce]

But then, you'd have to actually be in EMS and p/u victims, or scrape 'em up, of drunk driving accidents to fully comprehend my post.



Not touching this one.

[Jean Marie]

Not touching this one.
why? I'm an emt. problem?

[Celia Cyanide]

Do you really think if she loses her license, that she will stop driving? Didn't stop Paris.

Oh, yes, I forgot, celebrities are a different class of people who all think and act the same way.

Normal people fuck up more than once, too, you know.

[MattW]

Oh, yes, I forgot, celebrities are a different class of people who all think and act the same way. I'm glad we can agree on something.

Normal people fuck up more than once, too, you know.Most of us "normal people" don't get half the chances to right things with community service. Instant vehicle impound (or seizure) and license loss actually affects our livelihood, so fucking up even once can be devastating. And rehab is the exception as a sentencing option.

They are a different class of people. And it's not just the money.

[Celia Cyanide]

I'm glad we can agree on something.

No, I was being sarcastic. Lindsey Lohan and Paris Hilton do not come from remotely the same background.

Most of us "normal people" don't get half the chances to right things with community service.

I've known plenty of people who did.

Instant vehicle impound (or seizure) and license loss actually affects our livelihood, so fucking up even once can be devastating. And rehab is the exception as a sentencing option.

They are a different class of people. And it's not just the money.

I don't understand what you're asking for, Matt. That Lindsey should have been punished more harshly the first time, just because she is famous?

[MattW]

No, I was being sarcastic. I got that.

Lindsey Lohan and Paris Hilton do not come from remotely the same background.Yet they exhibit the same behavior. If she wants to maintain a distinct image from a party heiress, she should try a little harder. She had potential to be more than a talentless drunk. Time will tell if she can realize the differences.

I've known plenty of people who did. And my personal anecdotes differ.

I don't understand what you're asking for, Matt. That Lindsey should have been punished more harshly the first time, just because she is famous?No, but after a second unsuccessful visit to rehab, and a second DWI, and drug possession, should any future sentencing reflect that she does not take it seriously? Or should she be sentenced to rehab again?

There are literally thousands of people behind bars for simple possession charges who had little or none of the associated legal history of Lindsey. They did not get special treatment, and were unable to avoid jail time by going to rehab. Just because substance abuse is involved does not mean she can avoid paying the penalties.

[Celia Cyanide]

Yet they exhibit the same behavior.

It may appear that way in the tabloids. That really doesn't mean that Lindey's sentencing should be dependent upon what Paris did.

No, but after a second unsuccessful visit to rehab, and a second DWI, and drug possession, should any future sentencing reflect that she does not take it seriously? Or should she be sentenced to rehab again?

I think I'll wait for the sentencing before I get too upset about it either way.

[Jean Marie]

I think I'll wait for the sentencing before I get too upset about it either way.
That's what I'm waiting for. Makes more sense that way. 'Cause, if she gets tossed in jail, then it's all for naught.

If it goes the other way...

[robeiae]

No, no, no. Get upset, now! Throw something!

Anyway, Lohan claims she's innocent:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=3412015

[Jean Marie]

No, no, no. Get upset, now! Throw something!

Anyway, Lohan claims she's innocent:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=3412015
Yeah, she was holding the cocaine for a "friend."

That's the oldest, dumbest, lamest line in the book. She's an actress! Can't she come up w/ something more original.

[tourdeforce]

Does California have a three strikes law for felonies?

Are is that just for poor people?

[TheGaffer]

No, no, no. Get upset, now! Throw something!



I threw my computer. Took me 3 hours to get it back together.

See what you made me do?

[TheGaffer]

Yeah, she was holding the cocaine for a "friend."

That's the oldest, dumbest, lamest line in the book. She's an actress! Can't she come up w/ something more original.


Actresses are not writers, Jean. That's what we're for.

And I still have that suitcase of yours.

[billythrilly7th]

On another note, I have always wondered about the legality of clubs having a line and selecting who gets in and who does not.

How is that allowed?

I agree. I've often thought about filing a class action lawsuit in defense of all those turned down at a club door.

It should be first come first serve and to keep the riff raff out just charge like $30-50-1000!! to get in.

[tourdeforce]

Coincidentally, Riff Raff is my rap name.

[Celia Cyanide]

I agree. I've often thought about filing a class action lawsuit in defense of all those turned down at a club door.

That's a excellent idea. It would be painfully easy to prove that it isn't a "dress code," it's discrimination. It's based on who looks cool. That changes every week, so how are you supposed to know?

[tourdeforce]

And free drinks for women- what's up with that?

Also, a few weeks ago, I went to a place which charged a door fee for men but not women. This seems patently illegal.

[Celia Cyanide]

Also, a few weeks ago, I went to a place which charged a door fee for men but not women. This seems patently illegal.

I believe it is illegal where I live, so some clubs get around it by offering free drinks to people wearing skirts. I had some male friends who loved getting free drinks that way.

[billythrilly7th]

It's based on who looks cool.

It's more about good looking vs. not good looking.

To me it's always been about weight, age, height and overall looks discrimination.

You can make it worse or better by "looking cool" or not, but it's really about overall looks.

It's truly disgusting.

I hated clubs and rarely went to them. Most times I got in, but sometimes I didn't. But it was always sad to see certain people who weren't getting in no matter what. Because they were fat or bald or short or whatever.

It should be illegal and I will make it part of my platform if it's still a problem over the next decades.

[Celia Cyanide]

It's more about good looking vs. not good looking.

You mean they let me in because I'm hot? I thought they let me in because I'm cool...

[robeiae]

They never let me in clubs.

However, most local dive bars keep a seat reserved for me at the end of the bar.

[tourdeforce]

Lohan's stripper noir film "I Know Who Killed Me" opens in two days.

I wonder if this bust will help or hurt the box office.

I predict this will pull in $1.2 million its first weekend.

[billythrilly7th]

You mean they let me in because I'm hot? I thought they let me in because I'm cool...

It's probably a combo for you.

And you're a girl.

[billythrilly7th]

Lohan's stripper noir film "I Know Who Killed Me" opens in two days.

I wonder if this bust will help or hurt the box office.

I predict this will pull in $1.2 million its first weekend.


*****************************************SPoiler

******SPOILER: It turns out she didn't really KNOW who killed her. The title should have been....

"I Have an Inkling About Who Killed Me, But Let Me Look Into It And Make Sure Before I Accuse Anyone."

[Jean Marie]

Actresses are not writers, Jean. That's what we're for.

And I still have that suitcase of yours.
Well, she's not acting out the lies that have been written for her, then.

I've been looking for that...for a very long time. Um, may I please have it back?

[tourdeforce]

Flash forward seven years...

ON THE LOT - Season 8

Adrianna Costa: "And for you eagle-eyed viewers out there, yes, that was former teen starlet Lindsay Lohan in the back of the bus playing the second Passenger With Grocery Bag in Trang Nan Duc's "Bus Pass". Unfortunately, she had to drop out of filming halfway through shoot due to exhaustion. We wish her well."

[Writer2011]

It's sad to see Lindsay in this predicament but she did it to herself. As for the cocaine being held for a friend...yeah right---give me a break. She ought to be put under the jail and they throw away the key.

If she keeps going like this, she'll be dead in a year.

[benbradley]

Yes, it's important and I'll tell you why.

The DUI laws in this country remain too loose, and too many people die as a result.

Individuals such as Paris and Lohan bring this to the front page, and get more people talking about it. Talking is the beginning of changing/tightening laws and legislation = saving lives.
Lax laws are indeed an important issue, but I have doubts that such incidents will result in stronger laws. I agree with the statement I bolded, however MADD and others have been doing fighting for stronger laws for at least 20 years that I can personally remember. DUI laws have indeed "changed" a few times since then, but they're not substantially stronger than before, and they're nowhere near as strict as some European laws I've heard about, where as a result the rate of drunk driving is drastically lower than in the USA. We Americans (not me personally) believe we have a "right" to drive, even after having committed heinous offenses such as driving drunk.

So drinking-and-drug-related defendants agree to go to AA or NA and/or 12-step rehab to get a lighter DUI sentence, where they learn they're totally and completely powerless over alcohol, that having one sip of one drink will send them on a bender, and their only hope is to turn their wills and lives over to the care of God as they understood Him (steps 1 and 3 of the 12 steps, respectively).

So there goes the First Amendment, much less safety on public roads.

[TheGaffer]

They never let me in clubs.

However, most local dive bars keep a seat reserved for me at the end of the bar.


With the exception, of course, of the dive bar that happens to be your perch for the day.

[Chumplet]

Lindsay's stand-in appeared on Leno tonight, flask and all, in the guise of Rob Schneider.

[MattW]

Lax laws are indeed an important issue, but I have doubts that such incidents will result in stronger laws. I agree with the statement I bolded, however MADD and others have been doing fighting for stronger laws for at least 20 years that I can personally remember. DUI laws have indeed "changed" a few times since then, but they're not substantially stronger than before, and they're nowhere near as strict as some European laws I've heard about, where as a result the rate of drunk driving is drastically lower than in the USA. We Americans (not me personally) believe we have a "right" to drive, even after having committed heinous offenses such as driving drunk.Too true. Plus the worst offenders are the repeat offenders who have already lost licenses, have no insurance, and get blasted in the middle of the day. That's where the 10.5th Amendment comes into play - the right to drive. Can't take it away, and can't effectively enforce it.

Legislators keep pushing back the driving age, because all kids are dangerous and inattentive drivers (and they can't vote), but there is nothing that can be done for people who are proven hazards - elderly with vision, reaction, and hearing problems, and convicted drunk drivers.