Tony Snow

[blacbird]

This is not a snide political comment.

I saw a bit of today's White House press briefing with Press Sec Tony Snow. It was alarming. Not because of anything said, but because of Tony Snow's appearance. His health, obviously a big problem, disturbs me, and not for any political reason. He's one of the best appointees to a major Administrative position that GWB has made, and I respect him considerably. But he looked bad, tired and haggard, today. He looked worse than he did three or four weeks ago, when he had returned from his bout with chemo for liver cancer. I really hope this is either my imagination, or a consequence of some medical treatment, but it bothers me.

caw

[benbradley]

I agree, and I sure hope he makes it through this, though what I recall hearing months back was not very promising. For some graphic descriptions of how bad chemo can suck, as well as a really good, uplifting story, I recommend Lance Armstrong's bio "It's Not About The Bike." I recall one scene where he and his buddies were doing one of his "training rides" during chemo and Lance realized just what bad shape he was in when on an uphill grade an overweight woman riding a mountain bike passed him.

But the good news, of course, is Lance recovered to ride again and again.

[dclary]

I heard Tony on Rush's show last week, and Rush asked him about his health. Tony says he's feeling a lot better, and the treatments are going well. But it's definitely taking its overall toll.

[Jean Marie]

It's sad to watch such a great guy. I've noticed it, too. He looked much better than he does, now.

And, he's doing his best to not allow it to interfere w/ his job. Could be they're using a different chemo, too...a stronger one, possibly.

At least I hope that's what it is.

[Sheryl Nantus]

he looks awful.

I only hope that the chemo works and he can get healthy again.

I'm sure the stress from work doesn't help any.

:(

[tourdeforce]

Hopefully, whatever money he got for his soul is helping him cover the medical bills.

[tourdeforce]

you know, you could TRY to be human once in a while.

jerk.


Inappropriate personal attack and name-calling there Sheryl.

[tourdeforce]

No, I do agree with Sheryl. Tour, please be respectful, not just about other members on this board, but in general. Someone is dying of cancer. Be kind. Your one-liners might be funnier if you don't hit below the belt that much.


Can we have a list of who can and cannot be made fun of?

Should I stick to mocking Nicole Ritchie's pregnancy or the antics of Lohan and Spears and Paris Hilton?

Why does this f-cking shill for an incompetent administration who spends every day getting paid to justify a meaningless, unnecessary war and spin away the deaths of American soldiers and Iraqi civilians get a hands-off pass?

Lets have the list of who gets respect and who doesn't.

[SarahinOhio]

Cancer has not changed the content of Tony Snow's character. I'm sure, as a press secretary, he can handle our slings and arrows. He's not dead. He's living with a disease.

It's not Tony Snow's cancer that "bothers me." It's everything else.

[RumpleTumbler]

He does look weak and like he has lost a lot of weight.

Here is the link for anyone who wants to look. Video is on the right.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070716-6.html#

[William Haskins]

Hopefully, whatever money he got for his soul is helping him cover the medical bills.

effective satire.

far more disturbing is how sensitive some folks' offense-o-meters are.

[William Haskins]

we'll have to agree to disagree.

that cross must get heavy sometimes.

[Jean Marie]

we'll have to agree to disagree.

that cross must get heavy sometimes.
Agreed.

Nope, it's light as a feather.

[kristie911]

There's only a handful of people I can think of that deserve to die of cancer. Tony Snow is not one of them...I hope he comes through his chemo okay. He looks terrible now but chemo is hard on a person's body, chances are, when he's finished with his treatment, he'll perk up a bit.

Good luck to him.

[SarahinOhio]

I don't think anyone said that Mr. Snow deserves to die of cancer.

[maestrowork]

I would not wish death or cancer on anyone.

Boils, yes. Boils.

[SpookyWriter]

I would not wish death or cancer on anyone.

Boils, yes. Boils.Man, that's just plain vicious.

[Bad Penny]

this thread sums up what's wrong with america right now in general. the man is an insidious pyschopathic liar for a regime of psychopaths robbing you all blind, destroying the constitution and imposing an outright dictatorship, which should make him a despised domestic enemy at the very least, and you all get upset that someone didn't stop to send him flowers because he has cancer, which hasn't at all made him see the light and stop spinning like a demented drill bit in the hands of the toolbox murderer.

please get well soon, mr. goebbels

[William Haskins]

i see the hyperbole train has arrived.

[SpookyWriter]

Will you be the conductor or merely another passenger on this trip?

[Bad Penny]

sorry i'm late. i kept ramming into your fence

[rugcat]

Tony Snow’s not a bad guy. He’s the apologist for an administration line that I don’t think he even he believes, but that’s pretty mild on the bad guy scale.

Does anyone remember Roy Cohn? He was Joe McCarthy’s hatchet man, a vicious prick if ever there was one. He outed commies, homosexuals, and other malefactors, sometimes on the flimsiest of evidence, sometimes on made up allegations. He ruined the lives of many fine individuals, and thrived on it.

He was gay, closeted, and died of AIDS – the only person in the history of that dreadful disease who may actually have deserved getting it. Him, I would joke about.

[dclary]

Tony Snow's always been a staunch conservative apologist. He was the first white house press secretary I'd ever heard of pre-appointment.

[blacbird]

Tony Snow's always been a staunch conservative apologist.

His apology is accepted.

caw

[dclary]

Har.

[TheGaffer]

effective satire.

far more disturbing is how sensitive some folks' offense-o-meters are.

How dare you!

Wait, this meter isn't working right. I think you told me to f*ck off in that quote above? Or not?

[William Haskins]

i would never say that.

[TheGaffer]

Does anyone remember Roy Cohn? He was Joe McCarthy’s hatchet man, a vicious prick if ever there was one. He outed commies, homosexuals, and other malefactors, sometimes on the flimsiest of evidence, sometimes on made up allegations. He ruined the lives of many fine individuals, and thrived on it.

He was gay, closeted, and died of AIDS – the only person in the history of that dreadful disease who may actually have deserved getting it. Him, I would joke about.


Maybe not "joke" per se.

But just something to note and file in the "karma's a bitch" category, sort of like David Vitter or Rev. Ted Haggard, or King George III.

[TheGaffer]

i would never say that.


How dare you!!


Wait.

Oh.

Ok, something on my offense-o-meterTM is really screwed up.

[Magdalen]

If there is any meaning to life (I mean Real Meaning) we are not privy, here on earth. I believe we receive that kind of info in the afterlife. So earthly existence is kinda like "boot camp" for the soul. And if someone chooses (yep, I think we have more control over our own destiny than we realize) a painful, agonizing death from cancer or AIDS with sarcomas or even the painless hell of Alzheimer's, well, their soul must need the training. As for Tony Snow, yeah, he looks real bad. George must not be able to find any one willing to spin it his way and politely, (with that Texas twang) browbeats him to stay on. I wish Tony Snow would be sick on his own time and not on TV. He scores no extra points with me by showing up for work.

[rugcat]

And if someone chooses (yep, I think we have more control over our own destiny than we realize) a painful, agonizing death from cancer or AIDS with sarcomas or even the painless hell of Alzheimer's, well, their soul must need the training.Ah, this must explain why there are babies born with defects or diseases who suffer horribly for a year or so, then die before they even reach the age of personal awareness. Their souls needed training. Talk about tough love.

[Bad Penny]

Tony snow is polite???

condescending. flippant. arrogant. curt, stuck on himself and batshit nuts...

but Polite?

[blacbird]

condescending. flippant. arrogant. curt, stuck on himself and batshit nuts...


. . . and still one of GWB's best appointments.

Try not to think too hard about that, bad for the soul.

caw

[TheGaffer]

He's a novice when compared to Ari Fleischer. Now that was a genius, that man. As much as I dislike just about everybody in the administration, I bow to his abilities.

[SarahinOhio]

He's a novice when compared to Ari Fleischer. Now that was a genius, that man. As much as I dislike just about everybody in the administration, I bow to his abilities.

Never before was someone able to say so little, and with such condescension, and never since.

:flag:

[TheGaffer]

Exactly.

[Jean Marie]

. . . and still one of GWB's best appointments.

Try not to think too hard about that, bad for the soul.

caw
Ditto.

I suppose consideration for a man who's dying is entirely out of the question. Even though it's a dignified thing to do. A classy thing to do.

Oh right, I must remember where I am.

Carry on.

[Jean Marie]

Exactly.
Amen.

[SarahinOhio]

Ditto.

I suppose consideration for a man who's dying is entirely out of the question. Even though it's a dignified thing to do. A classy thing to do.

Oh right, I must remember where I am.

Carry on.

You know, I really think Mr. Snow would prefer to be called someone "living with cancer."

And I doubt he's spending too much time on AW right now.

[Jean Marie]

You know, I really think Mr. Snow would prefer to be called someone "living with cancer."

And I doubt he's spending too much time on AW right now.
Ok, living w/ cancer.

You miss the point.

[SarahinOhio]

Ok, living w/ cancer.

You miss the point.

Is the point that we're supposed to tiptoe around a public man, a man who has thrust himself into the limelight to be the mouthpiece for a disgraceful administration, while he's still living, working, and not (as far as I can tell, though you never know with these Bushies) in the immediate vicinity?

Is that it?

[Jean Marie]

Is the point that we're supposed to tiptoe around a public man, a man who has thrust himself into the limelight to be the mouthpiece for a disgraceful administration, while he's still living, working, and not (as far as I can tell, though you never know with these Bushies) in the immediate vicinity?

Is that it?
Respect is what it's about.

Period.

Interesting point you made; respect only counts when the individual is in the immediate vicinity.

Wow, that says an awful lot about...well, I think you get the idea :) IMHO, that's an awfully sad commentary.

[SarahinOhio]

Respect is what it's about.

Period.

Interesting point you made; respect only counts when the individual is in the immediate vicinity.

Wow, that says an awful lot about...well, I think you get the idea :) IMHO, that's an awfully sad commentary.

You're right, I don't respect Tony Snow, with cancer or without. I think he'd be okay with that, too. I guess you're not.

But I am still reeling from your :).

[maestrowork]

You're right, I don't respect Tony Snow, with cancer or without.


That's okay. But there's a difference between "I don't respect the guy with or without cancer" and "I'm glad he has cancer." I'm not saying anyone on here has said that. Just wanted to point out the difference.

[SarahinOhio]

That's okay. But there's a difference between "I don't respect the guy with or without cancer" and "I'm glad he has cancer." I'm not saying anyone on here has said that. Just wanted to point out the difference.

Point taken.

[Bad Penny]

Ditto.

I suppose consideration for a man who's dying is entirely out of the question. Even though it's a dignified thing to do. A classy thing to do.

Oh right, I must remember where I am.

Carry on.

I call it typical narcissism. Classy would be him not telling everyone about it employing it cynically to his advantage.