Fox news runs with "ham-sandwich" parody

[Bravo]

The backstory: Last week in the town of Lewiston, Maine, a group of Somalian Muslim middle school students were the subject of a cruel prank (http://www.sunjournal.com/story/209092-3/LewistonAuburn/Somalis_others_reflect_on_hightension_week_in_comm unity_relations/) when their peers placed a ham steak next to them in order to personally offend the students. School officials filed a report because the students considered the act to be a hate/bias crime.
This actual story was then spoofed by a parody site (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/224065/student_leaves_ham_sandwich_on_lunch.html) called Associated Content, which made up quotes and details, such as the school’s intention to “create an anti-ham ‘response plan.’”
On Tuesday, Fox & Friends reported these parody quotes and details as actual news. Poking fun at the students, hosts asked whether ham was “a hate crime…or lunch?” and showed screen shots of ham sandwiches, starving Somalians, belching, animal noises, and mock “reenactments” of the incident. Ironically, the hosts assured viewers several times, “We’re not making this up!”


http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/27/fox-parody/#comments

what's even more crazy then fox using online "sources" for a story like this, are the rants fox news watchers emailed in:


"Leaving your sandwich on a table is now a crime in Maine?" one e-mail asked. It continued, "This child did nothing illegal in placing his sandwich in front of several intolerant people that will kill YOUR students for sitting at the same table let alone placing a sandwich next to them."


http://www.sunjournal.com/story/209231-3/LewistonAuburn/Ham_report_stirs_mess/

[Tiger]

gevalt

[RumpleTumbler]

God doesn't care if anyone eats ham.

Fundamentalists are dangerous in any religion.

Ham is safe when cooked properly.

FoxNews is whacked but so is CNN etc. etc.

[Bravo]

God doesn't care if anyone eats ham.

Fundamentalists are dangerous in any religion.

Ham is safe when cooked properly.

FoxNews is whacked but so is CNN etc. etc.

um.........

....

okay.

:Shrug:

[billythrilly7th]

seriously.worst.thread.ever

[Bravo]

did you watch the video?

its funny.

[RumpleTumbler]

I desired to see it but didn't see the link in your post. Not that you were asking me. I'll go back and look again.

edit......

I found it.

Ham is not a toy. :roll:

Anti-Ham response plan. :roll:

[brer]

Yeah, so fox is guilty of doing a "Dan Rather," huh?
Get it? A "Dan Rather."

[billythrilly7th]

did you watch the video?

its funny.

I'm staying with a friend and the computer doesn't have any speakers.

:(

Okay...I'll hold off on serously.worst.thread.ever and just go with worst.thread.ever until I see the video with sound tonight at a different friend's.

[Bravo]

I desired to see it but didn't see the link in your post. Not that you were asking me. I'll go back and look again.

edit......

I found it.

Ham is not a toy. :roll:

Anti-Ham response plan. :roll:

thank you

billy can learn a thing or two from you.

[Bravo]

Yeah, so fox is guilty of doing a "Dan Rather," huh?
Get it? A "Dan Rather."

:Shrug:

[brer]

Recently, before Dan Rather "retired," he did an expose on Bush. D.R. tried to pass off some "recreated" documents that were obtained from a dubious source. Unfortunately for D.R., the "recreated" documents used a type of font that wasn't around when that document was supposedly created.

[robeiae]

:Shrug:Why are you confused, Bravo?

The only difference is that Rather took his "facts" from someone he knew was biased and less than trustworthy, while Fox & Friends producers merely made a mistake--a gi-normous, hilarious mistake, but still a mistake.

[Bravo]

no i got it.

i was only confused about the lame "Get it? A Dan Rather" part.

i used the shrug instead of channeling my inner opti by wondering aloud why the poster thought he should explain what that meant.

that was passive aggressive of me. :(

[Joe270]

This is too funny.

I love it when the guy says, "I hope we're not getting duped."

I hope the parody writer was an AW member.

[brer]

no i got it.

i was only confused about the lame "Get it? A Dan Rather" part.

i used the shrug instead of channeling my inner opti by wondering aloud why the poster thought he should explain what that meant.

that was passive aggressive of me. :(
Well, I'm the original poster. I put in the second line because Dan Rather has pulled some real good ones in his career, and people reading my post might not know which one I was referring to. Like there was the time he had the network have some dead time because he was out somewhere complaining about how his news program was being delayed because of some sports program.

[WarrenP]

Reminds me of when not too long ago one of the other news (sorry I forgot who) guys took a story from The Onion and ran with it. Funny...

[SpookyWriter]

Reminds me of when not too long ago one of the other news (sorry I forgot who) guys took a story from The Onion and ran with it. Funny...I was kinda of hoping my story would get picked up by Fox. I think my story needs to be heard by the world.

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i10869

[Joe270]

Pretty good there, Spook. I'd love to submit something there. Right now, I gotta finish my rewrite. Perhaps something about secret CIA prisons in Hackensack.

[SpookyWriter]

Pretty good there, Spook. I'd love to submit something there. Right now, I gotta finish my rewrite. Perhaps something about secret CIA prisons in Hackensack.Speaking about the CIA, did ya hear?

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s3i10986

[McDuff]

FoxNews is whacked but so is CNN etc. etc.

I love how the response to examples of shoddy journalism is "meh, ALL our journalists are that bad, whatchagonnado?" Like, doesn't the death of standards in journalism across the board bother you even slightly? Even a teeny little bit?

[SpookyWriter]

I love how the response to examples of shoddy journalism is "meh, ALL our journalists are that bad, whatchagonnado?" Like, doesn't the death of standards in journalism across the board bother you even slightly? Even a teeny little bit?Nope. Because bad journalism makes the world paranoid and helps horror writers sell their stories based on the events that bad journalist have portrayed to the public.

Wheeeee! Go FoxNews!

[RumpleTumbler]

I love how the response to examples of shoddy journalism is "meh, ALL our journalists are that bad, whatchagonnado?" Like, doesn't the death of standards in journalism across the board bother you even slightly? Even a teeny little bit?

It's just a reflection of where I am. I used to spend hours a day reading and watching the news. It was mostly right wing news. I then became suspect of what I was seeing and started watching left wing news for comparison purposes. Then I mixed it up a bit. I did this for a long time and came to conclusion that there is no such animal as "fair and balanced" coverage from either outlet. The love of power and money corrupts everyone it seems. I hate dishonesty and so I just quit watching it altogether. I watch a little bit of local news in the morning when I'm getting ready for work and that is about it these days. Right or wrong I've simply taken it out of my life for the most part at least for a while.

[Joe270]

I love how the response to examples of shoddy journalism is "meh, ALL our journalists are that bad, whatchagonnado?" Like, doesn't the death of standards in journalism across the board bother you even slightly? Even a teeny little bit?

The sad thing here, McDuff, is you recognize this problem, I recognize it, most viewers do as well.

But the journalists themselves don't recognize the problem. They have become too arogant, fail to check facts, push their own agendas, play up for ratings, etc. Geraldo Rivera and his ilk won.

I keep hoping integrity will show up again in journalism, but it doesn't seem to matter anymore.

[McDuff]

So we can't win, might as well play the next Metal Gear Solid and hope that nobody does anything that we might need to know about, eh? Thank God that nobody in government would ever do anything unethical that might need an honest reporter to uncover it!

...


What? Richard who? Nixon? Never heard of him. You're just making shit up now!

[Bravo]

I then became suspect of what I was seeing and started watching left wing news for comparison purposes. .

there are no "left-wing" wing news channels.

[McDuff]

There's Comedy Central.

[RumpleTumbler]

there are no "left-wing" wing news channels.

That's silly. The majority of news outlets lean to the left.

[TheGaffer]

This is too funny.

I love it when the guy says, "I hope we're not getting duped."

I hope the parody writer was an AW member.

These were the same people who did a report on "Communists for Kerry," which they were "assured" was a real existing group. Of course they turned out to be one of those 529 groups and a Bush fundraiser.

[TheGaffer]

Well, I'm the original poster. I put in the second line because Dan Rather has pulled some real good ones in his career, and people reading my post might not know which one I was referring to. Like there was the time he had the network have some dead time because he was out somewhere complaining about how his news program was being delayed because of some sports program.


And what is that an example of, other than the fact that he has an ego?

[TheGaffer]

That's silly. The majority of news outlets lean to the left.

Here we go again. Have you been watching the news lately?

[RumpleTumbler]

Here we go again. Have you been watching the news lately?

Go back to post 23. :)

[TheGaffer]

The sad thing here, McDuff, is you recognize this problem, I recognize it, most viewers do as well.

But the journalists themselves don't recognize the problem. They have become too arogant, fail to check facts, push their own agendas, play up for ratings, etc. Geraldo Rivera and his ilk won.

I keep hoping integrity will show up again in journalism, but it doesn't seem to matter anymore.

As a journalist I can say it does exist, in areas.

There are a few writers for the Washington Post; Bill Moyers; the New Yorker, a lot of print publications (I can't say I can count the NY Times right now). The TV and cable shouters definitely don't really qualify in this area, so I can agree with that much, and with the need for TV news to make money now, standards have indeed been compromised. And the media in Washington DC certainly doesn't qualify, so drunk with power as they are, but if you think they're all pushing a left-wing agenda at this point in time, you're just not paying attention.

But the right-wing would push the "liberal media" line even if they had everyone in their back pocket as they do Fox News - it's their stock in trade, it's their way of suggesting the world is against them no matter what they say, regardless of what facts may suggest with regard to one story or another. Dan Rather's scoop on the Bush documents doesn't really help, either.

[TheGaffer]

Go back to post 23. :)

Right, I see that, so how would you know, anyway?

[McDuff]

No, the media do lean left.

Of course, it's because the political discourse has defined "the left" to include most of what used to be the centre in the USA. I mean, fuck it, Hillary Clinton is a Left Wing Extremist in the Accepted Scale of Political Alignment, and Dick Cheney is a Moderate because, y'know, at least he's not Fred Phelps.

[Joe270]

Gaffer, I never said left. The OP here hits a right wing press.

All of them are equally bad. They push agendas, omit facts, or fail to confirm. I was a journalism major at the University of Texas for a couple years before I transferred to another school for my degree. This was in the early '80s.

Since I left, its all gone downhill.;)

[RumpleTumbler]

Right, I see that, so how would you know, anyway?

So in the last 4-5 months all the news outlets have gone to the right?

[TheGaffer]

Gaffer, I never said left. The OP here hits a right wing press.

All of them are equally bad. They push agendas, omit facts, or fail to confirm. I was a journalism major at the University of Texas for a couple years before I transferred to another school for my degree. This was in the early '80s.

Since I left, its all gone downhill.;)

You're right. You didn't say left. Sorry about that. Others did, but you didn't. I don't know that the problem is so much pushing agendas or omitting facts, but more it's the sensationalization, combined with the failure to ask probing questions and to avoid taking what our leadership says at face value. Simply writing down what someone in charge says and repeating it isn't journalism, it's stenography.

Anyway, obviously, it's because you changed schools. ;)

[Bravo]

No, the media do lean left.
.


the media leans left on social issues, but right on foreign policy and crime.

and our "left" on social issues would really mean "center" in europe

[McDuff]

If by "right" you mean "jump on any story that might have something to do with Bill Clinton's penis," no, that happened between 1994 and 2001. And the whole "parrot every White House line, no matter how ludicrous, as long as it mentioned 9/11" happened after that. Something of a sea-change in journalistic standards, as I recall.

Hey, what are we doing talking about ham sandwiches? Isn't there a blonde white lady gone missing somewhere?

[Bravo]

the bill clinton thing was domestic politics mcduff.

on foreign policy, the media tows the official line.

every. single. time.

that is.....

until american public support dips.

then it starts asking those hard questions.

[McDuff]

Bravo, you don't understand. "Left" is defined as "votes Democratic" so, no matter what the position of the Democratic Party is (say, for 8 years there could be a Democratic President with a very well publicised policy of 'triangulation' and 'centrism'. As an example.) if you have a group where the majority of people vote Democratic, that means it's to the left. This is why all biologists are functionally equivalent to Joe Stalin, and Defence Contractors are Conservative even if they're pro-choice homosexuals.

[Bravo]

lol.

[blacbird]

Recently, before Dan Rather "retired," he did an expose on Bush. D.R. tried to pass off some "recreated" documents that were obtained from a dubious source. Unfortunately for D.R., the "recreated" documents used a type of font that wasn't around when that document was supposedly created.

Uh . . . this is so not news.

caw

[Writer2011]

MMkay...

[SC Harrison]

You people want the truth? You can't handle the truth, so here's this:

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/mccain_to_send_self_back_to

McCain To Send Self Back To Vietnamese POW Camp To Revitalize Campaign

PHOENIX, AZ—In what insiders say is an attempt to revitalize his flagging campaign and convince voters that he is still a straight-talking maverick, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) announced Sunday that he will subject himself to the same mental torment and physical abuse he endured nearly 40 years ago at the same Vietnamese camp where he was once held as a prisoner of war.

"On Saturday at approximately 2:40 a.m. I will fly over the capital city of Hanoi and have my plane's right wing blown off by a Russian missile," said McCain, adding that the force of the ejection from an aging A-4 Skyhawk should render him unconscious and break both of his arms and "preferably [his] right leg." "I will then be taken to a bug- and rat-infested cell where, with both nobility and grace, I will suffer the worst forms of human indignities."

"The fact is, Sen. McCain feels that he's changed somehow from the independent, eternally haunted outsider that he once was," the source said. "He hopes that revisiting the extraordinary horrors he endured so many years ago will reinstill in him the sense of purpose and commitment he is so respected for. And what better way to reignite the political fire within than by having sharpened rods of bamboo jammed under his fingernails?"

According to campaign documents released to the media, the visit will cost more than $10 million, most of which will go toward acquiring a Grushin S-75 surface-to-air missile, renovating McCain's cell to its exact 1970s-era condition, paying medical personnel to provide inefficient and cruel treatment, and hiring Vietnamese citizens to act as the Viet Cong.

"Just when you think McCain is down and out, he announces the most brilliant move we've seen in American politics in a generation," ABC political correspondent George Stephanopoulos said. "With [Rudolph] Giuliani beating him in the polls and [Mitt] Romney outpacing him in fundraising, McCain's only remaining advantage is that he successfully withstood atrocities beyond our comprehension. And to subject himself to those same unspeakable acts of physical violence at the age of 68 should dispel any doubt among voters that he's too old to be in the White House."

"I've always admired McCain, but he's disappointed me in recent months," Cincinnati resident Ben Krepps, 33, said. "After so many years in the political mainstream, he's gone soft. Maybe some long, cruel nights are exactly what he needs to get his head back into this race."


:)

[billythrilly7th]

That's silly. The majority of news outlets lean to the left.

Of course. All clear thinking people understand that.

It's a proven fact done with surveys of the media over decades and decades.

But some people have a real hard time believing that one's personal politics can get in the way of their reporting.

Those people believe that even though, I dont know... (example)37% of the media considers themselves liberal, 12% republican, and the rest neutral, that somehow the news will still balance out. It's the most amazing phenomenon of denial.

The same way Bush can't admit that Iraq isn't going well, for some reason this is like their own land of denial issue.

It just must be that if they admit that the news is liberal that somehow it takes the power away from their liberal issues.

"They're only reporting that way because that's the way it is."

To think that there could be a bias makes the weak minded liberal get all shaky and nervous.

"Maybe I'm not right. Maybe everything I believe is wrong."

So they have to stick with "There's no liberal media and everything that is said against republicans is deserved and fair and balanced."

It's quite amusing for the clear minded person to watch this little freak out they always have when liberal media is mentioned.

"There's no liberal media. Stop saying that. I can't hear you. It's all fair and balanced! Stop it! I can't hear you!! I'm right about everything and that's why they report it that way!! Stop it!! Waaaaaaaaaaaa..Fox news! Fox News!!!!"

[whistlelock]

This is why you have to pay attention to the language journalists use, all they have to say is, "it has been reported that..." then all they're telling you is that someone else said something.

so, they are in fact reporting accurate news. that news being, "someone said or did something that may or may not be true."

[McDuff]

Hey, I totally admit that the media is mostly liberal in America. I've said it a few times now, reality has a well known liberal bias. I mean, people can't help being liberals now. People who thought they were conservative 30 years ago and voted for Nixon and everything are waking up in the morning and going "hey, when the hell did I turn into a left wing extremist?" And it's not them that's moved, it's this gloriously rightward-moving political spectrum.

I mean, the "conservative" party is now the party of the wacky torture-everyone anti-science guys. It's the party of the Terri Schiavo circus and the most politicised DoJ in the history of the United States. You have to be off the fucking wall to not end up being at least sympathetic to the other guys in circumstances like that.

[TheGaffer]

That says it pretty well.

[RumpleTumbler]

IHOP this morning.

I had 3 eggs scrambled with HAM, 3 pancakes, hash browns.

My daughter had a HAM melt. That's Texas Toast with HAM and scrambled eggs with cheese. She also had fries doused with seasoned salt and a side of link sausage.

I guess God is stoking the fire for us right now as we speak.

[Joe270]

I guess God is stoking the fire for us right now as we speak.

Yep, and he's roasting a fat pig with an apple in its mouth over it.

[SpookyWriter]

Yep, and he's roasting a fat pig with an apple in its mouth over it.Isn't there something about sleeping with a virgin I keep reading about? Hmmm...how do I get a piece of that action?

[Joe270]

Nope, I'm not getting dragged into the 72 virgins thing, I'll get banned for sure.

[SpookyWriter]

Nope, I'm not getting dragged into the 72 virgins thing, I'll get banned for sure.Would you settle for one?

http://www.cuttingedgestyling.com/sitebuilder/images/rosie-odonald-213x271.jpg

[Joe270]

What? Rosie O'Donnel? Pass.

[McDuff]

What do you mean the Terri Schiavo circus?

You do know that Sunny Von Bulow is still alive. She went into a coma in 1981. So rich people get to live out their lives despite their vegetative state and irreversable brain damage?

The Terri Schiavo "circus" was a serious issue for a reason.

Terri Schiavo didn't have a brain left. The Federal Government got involved to an unprecedented degree with what should have always been a private matter between a family. They did so because it was seized upon as a political issue, first by Randall Terry -- an extremist right winger if ever there was one -- and then by various people at all levels of the GOP establishment, some of whom blatantly if accidentally admitted (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32554-2005Apr6.html) to using the issue for political advantage. Bush, DeLay and Frist -- especially Frist -- lost metric tonnages of credibility, not least because this was probably one of the few times that the normally public-savvy GOP had so seriously misjudged popular opinion on the issue.

There are many serious issues related to Terri Shiavo. They had nothing to do with the case. The case was a media circus gone badly awry, and it was 100% pure GOP from top to bottom.

[McDuff]

IHOP this morning.

I had 3 eggs scrambled with HAM, 3 pancakes, hash browns.

My daughter had a HAM melt. That's Texas Toast with HAM and scrambled eggs with cheese. She also had fries doused with seasoned salt and a side of link sausage.

I guess God is stoking the fire for us right now as we speak.
The Jews don't really believe in the literal firey Christian Hell, so I think you're safe.

Tomorrow you can have a steak, though, and then you'll be reincarnated as a cockroach.

[blacbird]

I wonder what Faux Nooze would do if somebody offered good solid Christian kids a dog-meat sandwich.

caw

[McDuff]

Bird of Prey claims Conservatives Hate Puppies!

You heard it here first!

[Joe270]

No, no, no. It's a baby seal meat sandwich, hand tenderized.

[SpookyWriter]

Bird of Prey claims Conservatives Hate Puppies!

You heard it here first!
Not quite, sir. BoP is just playing the dead hand he was dealt.

http://www.scsc.k12.ar.us/2002ArkNatHist/Projects/ArnoldL/Images/Armadillo_dead_a02.jpg

[Joe270]

Why did the Texas chicken cross the road?

To prove to the armadillo it could be done.

[SpookyWriter]

Why did the Texas chicken cross the road?

To prove to the armadillo it could be done.
Why'd the Democrat cross the road marked "Cross at risk of Impeachment"?

Because they never swallow a lie.

[Bartholomew]

Bird of Prey claims Conservatives Hate Puppies!


Well, yeah, and he's right. To even join the Sacred Order of Conservative Nutjobs, you have to have a puppy-burning pit on the (1400 acres minimum) land that you own.

...wait, was that a secret?

Crap, sorry guys.

[BottomlessCup]

Reminds me of when not too long ago one of the other news (sorry I forgot who) guys took a story from The Onion and ran with it. Funny...

Yeah. It was the Beijing Evening News with a story that Congress was going to move out of DC unless they got a new facility. (Source. (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2002/06/08/MN129538.DTL))

The best part was that they were unwilling to back down on it and offer a correction. They were all, "You can't prove it's not true."

[Anthony Ravenscroft]

So, let's get back to the OP, here.

A bunch of kids sit together because of their religious/ethnic similarities.

They also group-up because they have the feeling they're a potential target for ridicule & abuse.

A bunch of the other students put something in their chosen (if mutable) space that is about as "funny" as, say, the penis from a cadaver would be to most of you, or your teenage kids.

And there's idiots in charge of a chunk of the "serious news" in this country who think it's worth spending thousands of dollars on a parody.

And there's idiots here who think it's funny.

(And there's fools here who think that FOX News & CNN are just two more examples of The LibRuhl Jew-Run Commie Media, which is so boneheaded that I'd need a thesis to even begin unpacking the dense-packed moronicity.)

Okay, so I guess it'd be just as funny if those kids had been, say, Jewish? A joke's just a joke, right? No harm, no foul?

[Bravo]

So, let's get back to the OP, here.

A bunch of kids sit together because of their religious/ethnic similarities.

They also group-up because they have the feeling they're a potential target for ridicule & abuse.

A bunch of the other students put something in their chosen (if mutable) space that is about as "funny" as, say, the penis from a cadaver would be to most of you, or your teenage kids.

And there's idiots in charge of a chunk of the "serious news" in this country who think it's worth spending thousands of dollars on a parody.

And there's idiots here who think it's funny.

(And there's fools here who think that FOX News & CNN are just two more examples of The LibRuhl Jew-Run Commie Media, which is so boneheaded that I'd need a thesis to even begin unpacking the dense-packed moronicity.)

Okay, so I guess it'd be just as funny if those kids had been, say, Jewish? A joke's just a joke, right? No harm, no foul?

i have absolutely no clue what youre saying here.

[Anthony Ravenscroft]

i have absolutely no clue what youre saying here.
And I'd guess that very few of us are surprised.

[Bartholomew]

And I'd guess that very few of us are surprised.

Be nice.

Your point is about as clear as mud; whatever you're getting at, I'd just go ahead and say it, were I you.

Unless you're trying to say that it wouldn't have been picked up by Fox if it had been a Jewish kid in the parody...?

[Anthony Ravenscroft]

Okay, I'll save the snappy (& fairly obvious) comebacks, & reprise with

Would "everyone" been thinking it was just as "funny" if the kids had been Jewish?

[McDuff]

I thought it was pretty clear. Would this have been considered to be a HIGHLARIOUS thing if people had put ham on the Hasidic kids' table? Because, y'know, very similar dietary restrictions there kids.

It should never have been a parody (because of the "power equation" which makes comedy funny: if you make fun of somebody stronger than you it's satire, if you make fun of somebody weaker than you it's bullying) and the parody shouldn't have been reported on for the same reason.

It's as racist as it gets, really. But who'd ever admit that?

[Bravo]

And I'd guess that very few of us are surprised.

Okay, I'll save the snappy (& fairly obvious) comebacks, & reprise with

Would "everyone" been thinking it was just as "funny" if the kids had been Jewish?

it looks like im making you a better writer.

youll thank me later for this.

good luck.

[Joe270]

I think Anthony and McD lost track. The posters, IMHO, were yanking Fox New's chain, not making light of the children in the original story. The whole thread was about Fox getting outfoxed, not picking on kids.

[McDuff]

Sure, the OP was yanking Fox News' chain.

This post wasn't.

IHOP this morning.

I had 3 eggs scrambled with HAM, 3 pancakes, hash browns.

My daughter had a HAM melt. That's Texas Toast with HAM and scrambled eggs with cheese. She also had fries doused with seasoned salt and a side of link sausage.

I guess God is stoking the fire for us right now as we speak.


Also, I operated a light switch after sunset on a Friday! I bet YWVH is totally pissed! (see, it's a funny joke because I'm mocking someone else's religion!! get it! I mean, it's not funny in and of itself, but Judaism is weird and by pointing that out we can totally laugh at it! It's observational comedy! Ah, you guys are no fun.)

[Bartholomew]

Okay, I'll save the snappy (& fairly obvious) comebacks, & reprise with

Would "everyone" been thinking it was just as "funny" if the kids had been Jewish?


No. I still wouldn't give a flying f--cough--iretruck. :)