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01-20-2004, 12:42 PM

I have just stepped outside to let off some steam. I hope you don't mind.


(Clears throat.)


How are you feeling today?

01-20-2004, 12:52 PM

What a healthy way to let off steam. I wish I had thought of that this week before eating a whole medium pizza in three hours and crying my eyes out thanks to hormones, other issues, and FINISHING MY DAMN BOOK! Sorry to shout that, but wow, that was tough. I am resisting the temptation to drive to the grocery store tonight to pick up Krispy Kremes. Whoever invented those is evil. They are great stress relievers until it comes time to zip up my pants.

I finally have time to curl up with your Outwitting Book, and I see you have a section on writing while managing family responsibilities. Boy, do I need that. I feel like SCREAMING! Too much going on, not enough hours in the day, blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, waaaaaaaaaaaah,

Since you asked, I am feeling OVERWHELMED, AND WANT MORE RESPECT AND PAY AS A WRITER. I WORK SO HARD!! Writing for its own sake is AWESOME, but when we work for pay we should get a little more, dontcha think? OK, thanks for reading my rant. I hope I am not the only one. If only the sun would poke its head out--it's been over a week now!


01-20-2004, 11:06 PM
I might earn some frequent screaming miles on this thread.

I will explode later

01-21-2004, 12:29 AM
Oh, dear, Jenna, what ever is the matter?

aka eraser
01-21-2004, 01:27 AM
I have a hunch we'll find out once she's tuckered herself out a bit.

01-21-2004, 06:51 AM
Maybe. But I'm not tuckered out yet!


(Shakes fists at ceiling.)

(Sinks back into chair.)

Alison, thank you for ranting with me. :grin YEAH! WE DESERVE MORE RESPECT! AND WE SHOULD BE RICH! We don't get any paid vacations! We don't get holiday bonuses! Where would the world be without writers? Cavemen! We'd all still be cavemen! And everyone would drool a lot!

*I will do my best to fill you in on this, the most ridiculous and most stress-inducing event of my writing career, when I can write about it without wanting to use caps and exclamation points all over the place. In the meantime, come rant with me! It doesn't even have to make sense! You don't even need proper punctuation!

01-21-2004, 06:54 AM
P.S. Congrats to Alison for FINISHING HER DAMN BOOK! :star

01-21-2004, 07:13 AM
note to self: don't make Jenna mad


01-21-2004, 09:06 AM

I presume the details will follow?

01-21-2004, 10:53 AM
I just hope she doesn't go running around waving her arms about shouting, "Danger, Will Robinson, aliens approaching." ;)

01-21-2004, 11:41 AM


01-21-2004, 06:59 PM


FM St George
01-21-2004, 07:21 PM
*readies tar and feathers for appropriate targets*


01-22-2004, 04:45 AM
I have a few targets myself today--idiots, fools, know it alls--me condescending--me?? Hey the whole lot of them, let's hang them from the ceiling by Velcro and watch them flip-flap their arms and legs while they fear of falling face first in the cat box!


01-23-2004, 08:30 AM
Jen is noticeable by her silence. Still ranting, I wonder? Fill us in Jen--we're all your greatest supporters and want to 'sic em' to the bad guys!

Ready and waiting


01-23-2004, 09:22 AM
Jen, this reads like an agent inserted a knife in your back, then the publisher twisted it. :teeth And now the cats are licking up all that blood that leaked out.

I would kick those cats out the window....:tongue

01-24-2004, 05:22 AM
You guys and gals are the best. :grin

Everything worked out OK, but just made me sick in the process.

In short, agent accepted a deal on my behalf with Publisher A a couple of weeks ago without informing me.

He did so because Co-Author gave him the go-ahead (also without informing me) after having a meeting that no one told me about.

Meanwhile, I was negotiating with Publisher B at Co-Author's request. They offered us a good deal, I asked Co-Author, and we agreed that it was better than what Publisher A was offering.

So we accepted Publisher B's offer, then found out that Publisher A had already started marketing work on the title because they were told that we accepted their offer.

I'm angry because Publisher B is a friend of mine and I felt ridiculous having to go back to him to say, "Oops! We already accepted a different offer!" He was amazing and had *also* immediately started marketing work on the book, and was so enthusiastic about it.

If that didn't make sense, the condensed version is that I wound up having to screw over a friend because no one was being honest with me about what "we" had already promised someone else. They let me look sneaky and bad with both publishers-- though, to their credit, agent and co-author apologized profusely and took the heat for it.

The past few days were full of frantic phone calls, miscommunications, and generally trying to untangle this mess and figure out which publisher we were going to wind up screwing. Neither choice would have left me feeling good. I'm a woman of my word and I expect the people I work with to be the same.

aka eraser
01-25-2004, 01:57 AM
That would sizzle my bacon too. :teeth

01-25-2004, 03:05 AM
Note to self: Remember what Yarms said about making Jenna mad.

Second note to self: File away Jenna's problem for future reference. Good reminder that things can go awry at anytime.

Third note to self: Don't delete those spam ads for valuim. May need 'em when dealing with agents in future.

Tish Davidson
01-25-2004, 06:37 AM
What I don't understand is if you are represented by an agent why are you involved in negotiations with publishers at all. True, you could be very annoyed with your agent who didn't get you the best deal, but why would you personally get involved with negotiations with another publisher if you have an agent. This all seems very odd and confusing. After all, the purpose of having an agent is to place the book with a publisher and negotiate the best contract possible. If you're doing it yourself, why pay them the 15%?

01-25-2004, 11:47 AM

Sorry, just felt like letting loose

01-25-2004, 11:13 PM
Wow, Jenna, what a snafu. No wonder you were screaming. Sympathies.

- Victoria

01-27-2004, 04:10 AM
What I don't understand is if you are represented by an agent why are you involved in negotiations with publishers at all.

Hi Tish. We hadn't officially signed with the agent yet, and he didn't want to bother with the other publisher. He spoke to them once, determined the advance would be lower than what we were already offered, and dropped it. I asked co-author what he wanted to do. Since Publisher B is a friend of mine, co-author asked me to contact him directly to negotiate... so I did, never knowing that anyone had already said "yes" to publisher A.

01-27-2004, 05:33 AM
Geeezzz,they can do that?? Thats pretty sucky!..:teeth Did someone say,'cats'.???? How many dozen do ya want??? I will ship!! Buy two,get one preggy female free!!!(lil dawg pond humor)
PS-Didja see the new krispy Kreme??? "Key lime".....oh my....:grin Hang tough Jen,now I know why Ill never write a book.....:\ Carybelle

Tish Davidson
01-27-2004, 07:55 AM
Ah, clarity. Thanks Jenna. You still going to sign with the agent?

01-29-2004, 05:31 AM
Tish, I'm with him for this book. We still don't have a contract, though, and I do have another agent (we have an interesting, nonexclusive arrangement), so I'll see how it goes before deciding how to go with future books.

02-17-2004, 09:32 AM
Jenna, you ain't gotta put up wid shoddy treatment! You want I should break some bones for ya? Signed, Peaceful

p.s. Sans contract, the agent may have had apparent authority to represent youse guys, but not actual authority. It sounds like a casual sort of transaction, but that is really no excuse; what he/she did was wrong. The agent, contrary to what all agents are expected to do, did not observe boundaries. Your word was not on the line, his/hers was. You could ratify his/her bad move if you wanted, and it seems you did, probably because you're just so dang nice. (See Rtly's Rule, above!) And there may well be other factors that influence your decision.

Still, when it so befalls that friends suffer such indignities as this, I weigh all the legal, economic, social, and even spiritual grounds for such things happening and invariably arrive at the identical reaction, nuanced though it be with the multifarious variables of time, intellect, space, and emotion: RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! I WANT TO CRUSH SOME TRACHEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Signed again, Peaceful

Betty W01
05-23-2004, 03:02 AM
Jenna, just found this thread and am bummed for you, despite it being late.

Now, since you started it:


If you know me, you'll know what that one was for. If not, it's ok. I'm better now. Really. I think.

Betty W01
05-28-2004, 06:43 AM





Spoke too soon. Firefighting can be frustrating work...

I'm OK now. Or will be, after a good night's sleep and a slug of something alcoholic.

06-04-2004, 11:19 PM
:head :head :head :head :head :head :head :head

:teeth :teeth :teeth :teeth :teeth :teeth

:ack :ack :ack :ack :ack :ack :ack :ack :ack


:bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang


>: >: >: >: >: >: >: >: >: >: >: >: >: >: >: >: >: >:


:evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil


:smack :smack :smack :smack :smack :smack :smack


:huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh



I feel better now. :hug

MacAl Stone
06-08-2004, 03:44 AM

I freakin' HATE, LOATHE, and DESPISE my freaking day job!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Lori Basiewicz
06-10-2004, 04:22 AM
I'm sooo tired. My knee hurts. I just want to sleep. Can I go home yet? Do I HAVE to set my alarm and get up in the morning? I don't want to walk down the stairs and scoop the litterbox. And did I mention my knee hurts? I really, really need to get some sleep.

Okay, I think I'm done for now.


06-11-2004, 05:32 AM
I'd just like to send a message to the person(s) who recently rejected my short story....


I feel MUCH better. Thanks for the thread, Jenna!

06-11-2004, 07:59 AM
Just got an overdue rejection letter (after, like, 3 months?) -- the usual form letter saying, "oh, we just couldn't take any more clients... blah blah"

Like I really care...

aka eraser
06-11-2004, 08:25 PM
I think, as Chunky has so aptly demonstrated, that the important thing is that we learn to deal with rejection in an appropriately-mature manner.


Betty W01
06-11-2004, 08:59 PM

:head :head :head :head :head :head

The person who first said, "No good deed goes unpunished!" probably tried to help a writer....

and to the poor ignorant soul who just rejected my latest piece of genius...


06-15-2004, 02:30 AM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


...thank you.

06-15-2004, 11:40 PM


Feel better.

My review is out -- even though I was a day late.

And I got a rejection letter, only that I sent the query about 6 months ago!


06-16-2004, 10:47 AM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LIIIIIIIIIIIII IIIIFE


Lori Basiewicz
06-16-2004, 11:58 AM
Bad day?

06-16-2004, 01:30 PM
What better place to send a brief message to my dear younger brother.

"Keep in mind, I know where you live." :evil

Betty W01
06-16-2004, 08:02 PM
Spoken like a true (and scary) older brother.

Signed with much approval by older sister

Lori Basiewicz
06-16-2004, 08:20 PM
I see BH is on the boards this morning.


06-16-2004, 09:29 PM

I wanna Know WHO thought inlaws were a good concept!!!


*pulls hair frantically*

(I know this is a place to vent frustrations in regards to writing but... AAAHHH! She' blocking my creative energy!!)
:head :bang :head :bang :head :bang

Betty W01
06-17-2004, 02:52 AM
Poor baby. Get Ray to send them a pizza....

Meanwhile, remember that no matter how annoying they are, you owe the existence of your sweetie to them, so try and put up with them as patiently as you can... and get your revenge by writing them into your next horror short story. As victims.

Lori Basiewicz
06-17-2004, 06:39 AM
And if the man-eating pizza doesn't work, you could always send your own poor little innocents to them and enjoy the peace and quiet while your distractions annoy one another?

Betty W01
06-17-2004, 08:39 PM
Lori, what a truly evil mind you have.

I like that about you. :rollin

06-17-2004, 09:21 PM
Lori, that's the best idea I think I've ever heard!!!

Truly a master plotter of evil if I've ever seen one.


06-17-2004, 10:59 PM
Of course, wait until your little innocents learn everything from the evil doers.... you'll have many years of hell...

Lori Basiewicz
06-18-2004, 05:20 AM
Ah, yes, Ray, but then, when her in-laws complain about their behavior, she can just don her best innocent expression and say, "Really? You think that? Funny, they always reminded me of you."

06-18-2004, 08:37 AM
LOL! And she doesn't even have children.

Lori, that is priceless.

06-28-2004, 01:32 AM
You heard it here first:

On the day I left for my honeymoon, an editor e-mailed to ask if I'd like to co-write/ghostwrite a book with Celine Dion. But she got my autoresponder saying I'd be out until June 30th and assigned it to another writer because time was of the essence.



06-28-2004, 01:49 AM

I'll scream with you...


06-28-2004, 02:14 AM
Not only will Ruth scream with you, Jenna, she will use her superpowers and secret identity Ray to kidnap the other writer, and in his/her absence, YOU shall be Celine's rightful author.

Kicking super-villain a$$ must be great fun.

MacAl Stone
06-28-2004, 02:29 AM
:head :head :head
:head :head :head


:bang :ack :(

okay. I think I'm over it. carry on. (you REALLY don't wanna know what that was about. I wish I didn't.)

06-28-2004, 02:32 AM
Oh, Mac... :hug

Betty W01
06-28-2004, 03:20 AM
Mac, who do you need for us to hurt? Just give us a name and directions. We'll be there before the lumps on your head turn black and blue. (You'll have to guess which one of us is who...)


Betty W01
06-28-2004, 03:27 AM
I'm so sorry to hear you lost out on that chance!! On the other hand, someday you can tell your grandkids all about the big break you gave up because of your overwhelming love for Grandpa Anthony. (Exaggerate - they'll never know the difference!)

Better luck next time.

06-28-2004, 10:13 AM
Celine who?

(c'mon, we all need a new attitude here! Even quixotic ones.)

MacAl Stone
06-28-2004, 07:54 PM
hmm--sorry to hear about the Celine Dion book, Jenna. . .but maybe it'll free you up to write a book with/for someone MUCH cooler and more interesting.

We could ask Betty if Michael Bolton's done a book yet. . .:ha :rofl :ha

Betty W01
06-29-2004, 03:52 AM
Oh, ha ha, she retorted.

(He's way better looking than Dion, and although he may stick way too many notes into one word at times, at least he doesn't pound himself in the chest when he sings. Good thing Dion is so flat-chested, is all I've got to say. Or maybe that's why... )

06-29-2004, 11:01 AM
I'm holding out for:

Julia Roberts
Charlize Theron
James Marsters (Spike)
Joss Whedon (Buffy/Angel creator)
Brad Pitt

06-29-2004, 07:04 PM
oh, i've got a candidate for your next project if Cruise falls through, and this guy does his own stunts. of course, I only require a paltry 10% of the gross for finding him for you. :thumbs

Lori Basiewicz
06-29-2004, 10:18 PM
Does he bail out younger brother's who accidentally steal buckets of chicken from funeral homes? :)

Betty W01
06-29-2004, 10:20 PM
Hmmm... buckets of chicken... funeral home.... that story sounds vaguely familiar... what movie was that again??

06-30-2004, 01:00 AM
Joss Whedon would be very interesting - he must have a million stories locked up in his brain.

I'd hold out for Brad Pitt, though... :love

06-30-2004, 01:45 AM
I'll hold out for Charlise, too. And:

Catherine Zeta-Jones
Tom Hanks
Tim Burton
Halle Berry (meow)
Collin Ferell (just to cut out all the expletives)

Lori Basiewicz
06-30-2004, 01:45 AM
Ah, Joss Whedon, yes. Especially after how the network failed to properly market Firefly. I bet he has tons to say.

I love Firefly and can't wait for the movie to come out.

Betty W01
06-30-2004, 03:03 AM

Some of you may remember the book review from hell, which I had to revise four times before the editor was satisfied. Then, she passed it on to a co-editor. Nw, from this editor, I hear I need to cut it down again by almost half.



If this attempt doesn't do it, I swear I'm gonna pack the book up and send it back and let someone else figure out how to explain this danged thing in 300 words and still get all the needed info in.


MacAl Stone
06-30-2004, 03:15 AM
BWAhhhhahahah!!! --Betty, just cross out all the verbs...:jump

06-30-2004, 03:16 AM
Betty, what's the book?

Ohh, Tom Hanks! Good one, Ray, he's my favorite...

06-30-2004, 03:22 AM
Betty, I have the review written for you in less than 300 words:

It is a good book. I recommend it.

I can't even write a movie review with less than 500 words. I can't imagining reviewing a whole book (unless you don't offer any synopsis... still) in less than 300.

06-30-2004, 03:25 AM
After getting a rejection after more than two months:

Dear Author (it's a form letter, darn it):

Sorry about the delay (no s***).... Unfortunately, your work does not fit the need of our agency.

Something this impersonal after holding up my partial for two months?

:ack :ack :ack :ack :ack :ack :ack :ack :ack

06-30-2004, 03:52 AM
steal buckets of chicken from funeral homes

Dear Lord. I read this twice over and still thought it said "buckets of children from funeral homes," which was just so sick.

06-30-2004, 04:02 AM
steal buckets of children from funeral homes

That too, but it's my story, and I'm not telling.

Betty W01
06-30-2004, 04:55 AM
Hey, look, I found a picture of Paul!!


I'm pretty sure that's chicken...

Betty W01
06-30-2004, 04:57 AM
Actually, Ray, I don't recommend it completely, that's the problem. Grrr. How to point out its shortcomings and give examples of poor scholarship, in 300 words... excuse me while I go do some more thinking. :head

06-30-2004, 05:30 AM
Okay, Betty. Here's your short version.

It's bad. Very bad. Run away while you still have some semblance of sanity.

Betty W01
06-30-2004, 05:36 AM
I like it, Ruth! I may use it, if I can't come up with something a bit more... professional. Thanks. :head

06-30-2004, 09:10 PM
Betty, here's another one. Very professional, I must say:

In my professional opinion, this book has some merits, but it also has many flaws. I recommend part of it, but not all of it. p.s. If I had written it, I guarantee I'd have recommended it highly.

Betty W01
06-30-2004, 09:40 PM
Oh, man, Ray, why did I spend all that valuable time rewriting, when I could have just used yours? Too late, though; I did get it down to size, and managed to point out the serious concerns in the process. I sent it off late last night. Of course, the editor hasn't gotten back to me yet <crossing fingers> so we'll see.

06-30-2004, 09:49 PM

So, I'm trying to get some work done. Really I am. But this hunk o'junk!!!! AAAGGGGGHHHH!!!! The scrolly thingie is goin all wonky again. Stupid puter! I can't type cause the page keeps shifting around.

:bang :bang :bang

Where's that dang chainsaw when ya need it?

Betty W01
06-30-2004, 10:07 PM
Here, use this. Exercise and exorcism, in one fell swoop.

07-01-2004, 01:10 AM

When did they start playing these horrendous elevator music as the coffee shop at Borders?

And I forgot my mp3 player...


Betty W01
07-01-2004, 04:53 AM
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_6_34.gif"Feeeeeeeeelingsssssss, http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_6_34.gif
nothing more than feeeeeeeeelingssssssss..."http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_6_32.gif

Thank you... thank you... you're too kind.

<ducking, running>

MacAl Stone
07-08-2004, 01:11 PM

repeat slowly to yourself, Mac:

"I KNOW better...I KNOW better...WHAT was I thinking?!..."


07-08-2004, 02:21 PM
Betty, thats the most blatantly evil thing you've ever done to us.

Betty W01
07-09-2004, 01:42 AM

I'd like to thank all the little people who have made this moment possible... you know who you are.

07-09-2004, 04:09 AM
AAAAARGH! Why do I have a day job? I HATE having to sit in a crowded food court on my lunch break trying to write while a herd of teenage girls whine incessantly at the table behind me....

"like Billy is just like..you know, and like Bobby is like..you know..and..like he's just like..duh, and so is Eddie, like of course 'coz like he hangs out with Billy and Bobby...."


Now I'm going to have to use the search/replace function in my word processor to hunt down every 'like' in my story so I can put a gun to its head and make it convince me it needs to be there.

PS - Jenna, I'm truly sorry you missed out on doing that book.

07-09-2004, 05:10 AM
Just for you, CC:

www.allowe.com/sight/gags.htm?j=221 (http://www.allowe.com/sight/gags.htm?j=221)

07-09-2004, 05:23 AM
:rofl LMAO

07-09-2004, 05:38 AM
It's like really funny, like Mike.

Betty W01
07-15-2004, 04:27 AM
So, you know the computer my brothers rebuilt for me at school? Now the OS is too advanced to run the software I need to run to get the cataloging data export done.



Again. Starting again.



07-15-2004, 04:48 AM
I sympathize, Betts. Truly I do. :hug Can they reformat and put the proper version of the OS on for you? I know, even if they can, it still puts you behind.

Betty W01
07-15-2004, 10:06 AM
I hope so. But big brother has been out of touch, since his in-laws are here from England and the wedding is day after tomorrow. In other words, big sister's problem is waaaaaaaaay down on his list of things to worry about this week. So, we'll see. Later. Until then...


Oh, and can I add... political and religious ranting??


I'm done.


07-15-2004, 04:16 PM
My web host locked my account without telling me. I had entered a new credit card agfter my forst one got stolen, but you have to telephone them and tell them. Despite bboth there webpage and phone message saying you *don't* have to.


For £80 a year they could at least have emailed to tell me it was locked.

Betty W01
07-15-2004, 09:32 PM
Ummm, would you have gotten the e-mail?

Hey, little brother came over today and I now have sound on my computer, at least!!


07-15-2004, 09:39 PM

Why is my age constantly being thrown in my face? I know how old I am! I don't need people telling me I'm a moron because I'm in my 20's. I've also been a parent for 9 years! I'm pretty sure that somewhere along the line I've become a friggin adult!


07-15-2004, 11:39 PM
Spooky ... rest easy, young 'un. I know who/what you are talking about and you are displaying the greater maturity. You have defended your position passionately, but have not resorted to slurs or name calling.

:hug (I also understand it is REALLY frustrating)

07-15-2004, 11:54 PM

There, I did my name calling.

madeya ru
07-16-2004, 12:08 AM
Spook- I don't know you, and maybe I shouldn't say anything, but I've been following along (I just know what discussions to stay out of) and I think it's fair to say that you most likely became an adult when you went out on your own, at least when you had your first kid. May have been well before then. I know some 16 year olds who are more adult than some 60 year olds. Don't worry about the age thing. It's the opinions that are to be respected, whether agreed with or not. There are those of us who look beyond age (had no idea what your age was until stated) and respect what someone has to say, and there are those who can't see anything past their own long lived experience, you know, the whole I'm older than you so I know more.

Don't know if this was out of line, but you sounded like you needed a pep talk. Intellegence has nothing to do with age. And neither does maturity. Hang in there. You speak quite eloquently and those who count will respect your opinion, whether agreed or not.

07-16-2004, 01:41 AM
Thank you so much.:D I did not find it out of line at all. I appreciate the pep talk. It's nice to know there are people out there that can see beyond a silly number. Wisdom is from life experience, not a birthday.

Betty W01
07-16-2004, 02:55 AM
Spook, I know exactly how old you are (several years younger than what my oldest daughter would be right now), and find you mature beyond your years (or at least beyond what is commonly thought of as the wisdom you have by then). Aging is mandatory. Gaining wisdom is optional. You seem to be right where you belong. And you've earned the right to have - and express - whatever opinions you want!


Of course, I still don't know why anyone trusts you with sharp objects, but that's another issue.

07-16-2004, 09:22 PM


:head :head :head :head :head :head

Betty W01
07-16-2004, 09:47 PM
Don't know what's wrong, but remember your blood pressure, dude!

Here... http://deephousepage.com/smilies/chillpill.gifhttp://deephousepage.com/smilies/chillpill.gif

Now, take a deep breath, tap your heels together three times, and repeat after me: There's no place like home, there's no place like home...


07-16-2004, 10:34 PM
I feel better now. It was just money.

07-16-2004, 11:40 PM
Stupid Phones!!!!


Stupid Call Block!!!

I hate technology!!!!!!

:head :head :head :head :head

07-17-2004, 01:35 AM
Only our spooky would use a computer to complain about technology...have I told you how much you brighten up my days, spooky? :hug

07-17-2004, 04:21 AM

Oh, after the day I've had CC you have no idea how much I needed that laugh.

07-17-2004, 04:57 AM
Only too happy to help, spooky.

07-18-2004, 10:59 AM


That image of that giant purple bruise will haunt me for the rest of my days.

07-19-2004, 11:48 PM
I need to let off a little private scream here. Certain "people" keep misspelling a certain word that's going into one of my books even after I corrected the spelling and now I'm all paranoid that's how it'll be spelled in the final draft.



07-21-2004, 10:03 PM
>: Why? Why? WHYYYYY?!?!?!?!

Why is it that every time something good happens and you're all happy and giddy, something bad comes along to smack you right down?


:head :head :head :head :head :head

aka eraser
07-21-2004, 10:44 PM
Because God/Mother Nature/Fate/The Cosmic Muffin has a very puckish sense of humour.

I like the old Arab (I think) saying: Man plans. God laughs.

I'm sorry for ya tho spook. But now it's a good thing's turn to happen right?

We can hope. (Just don't plan.) ;)

07-21-2004, 10:57 PM
Good things will come to you, Spookie.

As for me....


I can't get this f&$%^#$%^# song out of my head.

(I guess Barb'd say, it's payback time!)

07-21-2004, 11:21 PM
Stupid Cosmic Muffin!! >:

07-22-2004, 12:41 AM
I'm in a cube, not working on my own stuff. That's how I am today. :ack

07-24-2004, 04:07 PM
Quick, guys, we need icepicks and hammers! Get westbye out of that cube! Stat!

07-25-2004, 12:32 AM

There are so many a**h**** in this world, especially on the internet.

Unbelievable. Whatever happens to human decency?


p.s. it has nothing to do with AW.

Betty W01
07-25-2004, 07:05 AM
how about a crying thread??


Why, God? WHY??????????????

Sometimes, life sucks. I'm sure He knows what He's doing, but I sure have not got a clue a good deal of the time.



07-25-2004, 08:44 AM
(*&^#$#$#@$#^%*&)(_(+)(*&*&^%$$#$@!^%$@*& and various other four letter words.

What a day!

I wrote, I trashed it, I wrote, I trashed it. YUCK on my muse!


07-25-2004, 09:37 AM
Send your muse over this way. I'm beginning to think a bad muse beats no muse.

07-25-2004, 11:45 AM
ME 2. I need a muse. Although I'd rather not have Bud touch me.

07-25-2004, 01:57 PM
Stupid car! One thing after another! Tires, battery, alternator, now who knows what? I can't take it!! Being broke sucks!! Stupid, stupid car!! AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHGH!!!

07-25-2004, 08:14 PM
Parked car, been parking it there for two years--AM today, sticker on it that says it will be towed. Somebody complained it was parked there--can't be parked in the same spot more than three days!

Only two new neighbors--across the street and next door across other street--both jerks--tell me:


Damn people and their mini power trips--now I remember why I hate living in town.


07-25-2004, 08:25 PM
Car towed. Because it was parked 2 inches into the yellow line. Wasn't blocking anything. Some jerk at the house on the residential street called the cops to tow it.

<gathering rocks and gasoline in my shed... >

07-26-2004, 01:40 AM

Don't know what you're crying about yet, but :cry and :hug . I'm praying for you...

As for car troubles...

Arrrrgggggh! (None for me this week, but ex-hubby and kids arrived home from holidays four days earlier than expected 'cause of a stupid hole in the radiator fluid reservoir. $130 bucks later...)

07-26-2004, 06:12 PM
It didn't work! I'm still in the cube! Aaaahhhhh!!!!

And Northeast drivers are absolutely insane!

07-27-2004, 12:06 AM
I don't even HAVE a car. But I *do* have a story...

I loaned my little brother my car some years back. He totaled it. AND ... nothing. THANKS A LOT, BRO!!! :grr

When my hubby was my honey, he normally parked his car in front of my house when he came to visit me. My STUPID neighbor decided one day that the car was parked in HIS spot (right next to MY driveway, in front of MY yard) and made a complaint. SHEESH!

07-27-2004, 12:14 AM
It didn't work! I'm still in the cube! Aaaahhhhh!!!!

Hang on, westbye! We're coming...

<sound of sirens in the distance>

And Dawn, I never loan my car to my bro...

I ended up driving him around on the weekend 'cause I won't break that rule ever since he was nineteen and the cops phoned me at one in the morning asking me to come pick him up. (He'd been picked up for drunk driving and my parents' car had been impounded.)

I told the cop he still had his feet... :teeth

07-27-2004, 08:17 AM
I hope you get a new and better one stone.

07-27-2004, 09:08 AM
I hope you get a new and better one stone.


I'm assuming you meant "soon" instead of "stone," but do you mean a new and better car, or a new and better brother...

(There's not much wrong with my car right now...) :b

07-27-2004, 01:11 PM
deleted. Troll alert.

07-27-2004, 01:20 PM

07-28-2004, 12:04 AM
Thanks, toto.

And Ruth: I would say "either one would work" but then I wouldn't be able to see his kids anymore.

07-28-2004, 06:00 AM
Ah, cars! A couple of years ago, this kid would come into our neighborhood and park his car blocking half my driveway so I couldn't get in or out. When I went to him and asked him not to do that anymore, his undershirt-wearing beer-guzzling buddy starts getting all indignant:

"What's your problem? You're not goin' anywhere."

Like this dirtbag knows what I'm doing at any given time. I had to duck his spittle while trying to talk to the person who actually drove the car.


07-28-2004, 12:09 PM
CC, seems to me they know too much!


07-28-2004, 08:44 PM
And Ruth: I would say "either one would work" but then I wouldn't be able to see his kids anymore.


I have one bro who hasn't talked to the family in over a year ('cause Mom wouldn't give him any more money). Sis-in-law is a bit pissed at him though, so when other bro gets married next week, she and my nephew will be there, even if my brother isn't.

This is the screaming thread, so...


That's for all the screwed-up families out there... :ack

(Now I feel better.)

07-28-2004, 08:46 PM
I won't tell you what my sister-in-law did then...


07-28-2004, 08:47 PM
Maybe it's time for another Heathen Horde story.

07-28-2004, 10:07 PM
Or my wedding story. Then again, maybe Ruth doesn't wanna hear about the wedding day from hell right now.


:bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang

:head :head :head :head :head :head

07-28-2004, 10:16 PM
EECK!!! I couldn't even TALK on my wedding day! How's THAT for a horror story??

Or that the wedding cake was late.

Or that it rained -- on an OUTDOOR WEDDDING!!!! :cry

07-28-2004, 10:55 PM
Let's see what weddings and clowns does to the ads.

07-29-2004, 02:21 AM
OK, this kind of pissed me off.

After waiting for over 2 months (the agent requested the partial for an exclusive read!) I kindly sent a letter to her, asking for status. She sent back a form letter saying:

"We receive so many submissions it is impossible for us to send individual responses."

Huh? You REQUESTED my material and I included an SASE... don't you think it's a courtesy to reply using that SASE after certain time has passed? I'm wondering if she even opened the package and read the material!

Not an agent I'd like to deal with anyway.


07-29-2004, 06:28 AM
"We receive so many submissions it is impossible for us to send individual responses."
Maestro, to paraphrase the great John Cleese: It's people like them what causes unrest.

07-29-2004, 06:37 AM
Yeah, I mean that's why this "business" is frustrating. If only everyone does their part. If you ask for an SASE and say you'd respond without 2 to 6 weeks, then by all means follow through. All it takes is for an intern to stuff a form letter in the SASE and drop it in the outbox. 5 seconds top. How much work is that? Even I can do 200 of those in half an hour, and I'm an idiot.


07-29-2004, 08:16 AM
Not an agent I'd like to deal with anyway.

Or me.

So send her a polite letter telling her that her exclusive read time is over, and go on to the next one on the list...

And write another book.

And off topic: I was going to start a gripe thread 'cause I was feeling kind of low, and a few of you guys (you know who you are) cured it. Thanks for the laughs.

07-29-2004, 10:09 AM
Ruth, :hug

Betty W01
07-30-2004, 06:53 AM
My columns are due day after tomorrow, and I only have one done so far due to an unexpected death and my computer going whopper-jewwy on me all day today.



07-31-2004, 04:28 AM
I just got a nasty boo boo on my hand, it hurts :cry

07-31-2004, 01:26 PM
Let's see what weddings and clowns does to the ads.

Yup, Dave. There are wedding ads....

Betty W01
08-03-2004, 01:36 AM
I reviewed a dear friend's restaurant and it was published today - under someone else's byline by mistake!! They'll run a correction next month, but for now, it looks like someone else wrote it!




08-03-2004, 03:33 PM

Note to self: When you're closing a document with your day's work in it, and the program asks if you want to save your work, click on the YES button!

08-03-2004, 10:44 PM
Oh, HConn! That one made me hurt for you. :hug

And now, it' my turn to Aaaahhhhhggggg!!!!!

Why won't my brain function? One measly, lousy sentance is all I ask! Just one little itty-bitty story! Please? Purdy Please? Brain, do you hear me? Maybe you need a jolt?

:head :head :head :head

08-03-2004, 10:56 PM
Write a list, spook. That's what I'm doing. (Wake up, brain! Wake up! *nudge, nudge*)

And, HConn, that's just awful!! :head

08-03-2004, 11:42 PM
Uh, I actually feel quite fine right now. Oops, uh, I mean, ARGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

*Slinks away quietly*

08-04-2004, 04:41 AM


I feel for you.

08-05-2004, 03:49 PM
Akuma, :ha

There aren't enough ARGGHHHs enough in the world for my week. I'll just say there are no more Chips Deluxe Peanut Butter Cup cookies in my house... that's how much arghing was being done around here.

And HConn, :ack ! So sorry.

08-06-2004, 03:30 AM
The last 6 months have been hell for me--run off a BB, because I don't outline. My insurance has doubled in cost because the HR dept has somehow turned me into part time--had my car wrecked, fractured my ankle, had a gun pointed in my face in a robbery, major computer crash, teen being an ass, attack of the killer fleas (gotta love Texas and hot wet weather this year) plumbing going to hell as well as a major roof leak, one of 6 cats had to have emergancy surgery (350 bucks) hubby served in Iraq gets home gets out of Army--no one will give him a job, now there is something wrong with that!

It is the never ending year of arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

08-06-2004, 07:23 AM


08-06-2004, 10:51 PM
:ack Shawn, you could be on to a best-selling drama there.

:hug Sorry to hear about your run of bad luck. Just know you aren't alone. We're here for ya. And, thank goodness for this thread. It's nice to have a place to vent when necessary.

08-08-2004, 11:04 AM
thanks folks, it is nice to be able to scream every so often and not have people look at you as if they should call the guys in Little white coats and put you in the pink room. :jump


Betty W01
08-09-2004, 03:00 AM
Shawn, please tell your Army husband, "Thank you!" for me. And you're right, there's something wrong with a veteran not being able to get a job...

08-10-2004, 09:29 PM
I sooooo agree. These are men and women honoring our country by putting their lives on the line for us. The least we can do as a country is offer them a job and good medical coverage when they've completed their duties.

Thank you to all the men and women of the Military for making our country safer for my children.

:clap :clap :clap :clap :clap

08-11-2004, 12:22 AM
You think it's hard for a veteran to get a job? My dad can't even get benefits.

08-11-2004, 01:22 AM
Dawn, I know what you mean there. My father-in-law is a veteran, served in Korea. He's in his early 70's and though he does get VA assistance, it's poor. They are so understaffed they don't have the resources to help out the veterens for months. (His wait time for scheduled appointments usually runs about 3 to 4 months.)

08-11-2004, 04:16 PM
People who leave their dogs to bark all night should be [content deleted to avoid self-incrimination].

08-11-2004, 08:20 PM
Beaten severely.

08-12-2004, 03:02 AM
Or people who take their dog to YOUR lawn and let them do their business there but won't clean up after the dog...


08-12-2004, 10:19 PM
We are dealing with the no health care issue right now. What a crock. And we were supposed to get a final allowance to move us back to our state of residence as well--have not seen that either adn they have a million reasons why. Sheesh.

And the barking dog--I'd like to beat one of our neighbors as well--bark bark bark all night, all day non stop--let the dang dog in the house for Pete's sake!


08-13-2004, 04:46 AM
I had a neighbor dog like that once. Try throwing dog food (if you have it) over the fence. Hopefully, the dog will spend its time hunting for the food as opposed to barking.

Betty W01
08-13-2004, 07:09 AM
Mark York is back and EZ'ing me again.





08-15-2004, 09:22 AM
Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie (http://zapatopi.net/afdb.html) for protection on those days when screaming is not enough :ssh

08-15-2004, 10:08 AM
:rofl :ha :rofl :ha :jump

I need one of those--I could wear it to work!


08-15-2004, 10:29 AM
With or without the added "accoutrements" Shawn? Just make sure you keep the shiny side out. :thumbs

08-15-2004, 01:48 PM

I think I shall send one to everyone who's considering sending a manuscript to PA...

08-15-2004, 08:14 PM

I know a few people who could use one...

08-16-2004, 12:34 AM
No joke: Those things are actually quite effective in keeping the satellite from reading your mind!

MacAl Stone
08-16-2004, 12:23 PM
yeah! What Greenwolf said! I have one, it's changed my life...:jump

08-16-2004, 04:24 PM
if it keeps authors who did not read the submisson guides from sending you stuf you don't want to see, or if it keeps kids from interupting you while writting:


"I'm writing."




"Mother is writing." Mom continues to click keys.


"OKAY--what do you want?" Keys stop clicking, mom draws attention completely away from story and loses train of thought.

"ummmmm . . . ."


"Ummmm . . . ."


"You're writing." Child begins to shuffle away.

"Come back here, you will tell me why you needed to interupt me."

"My sister looked in my room door." This from an almost 17 yr old about his 10 yr old sister who has to walk past his room to get to hers.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rr

08-17-2004, 10:34 AM

08-17-2004, 08:50 PM
keeps booting me!!!!


How am I supposed to get anything done here?

Dawn, mine is a toddler (4 1/2):

"Mom. Mom. Mom. Answer me. Mom. Mom. Mommy..."

"Go watch cartoons. I'm almost done."

"But, I'm hungry. Mom. I'm hungry."

"In a minute."

Child falls dramatically onto the floor in a crumpled heap.

"But, I'm gonna starve." Sobbing commences until I evacuate the keyboard area.


aka eraser
08-17-2004, 11:58 PM
LOL spook. It's annoying now but it's material down the road. ;)

eraser<---who shamelessly uses his kids in his writing

Betty W01
08-18-2004, 08:24 AM
20 yo who wants to tell you all about his crappy job - when you're writing.

18 yo who needs to use the phone RIGHT NOW, although you're on-line sending a manuscript out.

DH, who is home for lunch and wants your company (and a sandwich, please. And some iced tea. Oh, and can you get me some chips?)

GF who always seems to need to whine about something while you're in the middle of finishing a piece on deadline. But if you refuse to answer the phone, it might be one of your kids. Or one of your elderly parents. And she's ficking impossible to get off the phone short of hanging up on her.

DD's friends, who keep calling, ringing doorbell, and otherwise disturbing me. She's asleep, of course.


08-18-2004, 10:01 AM
^^ This is why I write at night at 1:00am when everyone else in the family is sleeping, and thinks I am, too.

08-18-2004, 10:05 AM
An animal sanctuary with current residents that number 16 horses, 3 mules, 1 donkey, 4 dogs, assorted cats, 5 cows, a 14 year old two-legger, a long-suffering husband, and the need to keep up an outside job to help support it all - and I wonder why I write late at night and never seem to get enough sleep?

08-18-2004, 11:53 PM
Macalic: If only I could do that! My daughter is a big night owl.

But, y'know, mornings can work too. Seriously! You'd be surprised at how creative you can be when you're half awake.

There is actually a thread for writing parents in the Office Party room. And, ahem, a book I did *cough, cough* BURNING THE MIDNIGHT OIL: How We Survive as Writing Parents *cough, cough* that talks about this, too.

08-26-2004, 09:06 PM

:head :head :head :head :head :head

Okay, much better. Now, back to editing...

ps. Dawn, your book's on my list along with Jenna's. :)

08-27-2004, 02:17 AM
Whew....glad that's over! :grin

Lori Basiewicz
08-27-2004, 02:58 AM
Rough day, LJ?

08-27-2004, 03:49 AM
Lori: One of those rollercoaster days. :ack :grin :ack :grin :ack :grin :ack :grin

Lori Basiewicz
08-27-2004, 05:35 AM

08-27-2004, 06:30 AM
Prozac, anyone?


08-27-2004, 06:53 PM
I could use a shot of Xanex followed by an antibiotic IV drip.
(I've got a soar throat this morning. >: )

*Chants: I don't have time to be sick. I'm not getting sick. I don't have time to be sick.*

aka eraser
09-01-2004, 03:30 AM
What's the worst thing that can happen to a writer that is non-health or family-related?

I'll tell you.

My hard drive died.

Expired. Non-resuscitable. It is NOT pinin' for the fjords. It is NOT restin'. It is an ex-hard drive. It has joined the choir celestial. It bit the big megabyte.

It has taken with it hundreds, nay, thousands of email addies and bookmarks; over two thousand songs, hundreds of photos and lots of miscellaneous stuff I don't even want to think about right now.

I DID back up my writing but never figured out how to back up email addies.

So. I'm writing this on Son #1's machine. I'm getting a new drive installed but probably won't have it until tomorrow. I hope those of you who subscribe to my Baron It All column will be patient. I did write out (in longhand) most of those addies a few weeks ago. I don't think I'll have the issue out this Thursday though. Maybe Friday or Saturday.

If anyone needs to get in touch with me please use my website addy for the next day or two (frank(at)frankbaron.com).

ARRRRRGGGGH!! :bang :head

Lori Basiewicz
09-01-2004, 03:48 AM
Oh, Frank. That is probably the most frightening thing I've read in a long time. Are you sure this doesn't belong in the Horror forum?

09-01-2004, 04:00 AM
Yikes, Frank! (chunky slaps a blank CD into the drive and starts burning right away) Sorry to hear that.

For future reference re: e-mail addresses ... depending on the program you use, you should be able to 'export' your address book as a comma-delimited or database file. Outlook will also let you send contact info as v-cards that Outlook on another machine can read. Other programs might be able to read v-cards as well, but I've never used them with anything but Outlook.

09-01-2004, 04:14 AM

:hug I hear ya, buddy.

Weren't computers invented to make our lives easier? :bang

Dang things!

09-01-2004, 02:38 PM
Oh, Frank. I am so, so sorry.


That... just... sucks. I can't even think of anything consoling to say. Have you gone for a second opinion? There are some real specialists in data recovery who can work wonders on lost stuff. Look up "data recovery" online. I once had people restore files I thought for SURE were gone.

09-01-2004, 06:54 PM
Ditto what Jenna said. Data recovery can be pricey, but worth it if you have important stuff on there.


09-01-2004, 09:24 PM
One of the best data recovery places out there:

Ontrack (http://www.ontrack.com/)

I've used their hard disk analysis tools and they are very, very good. Helped me catch a failing drive on a server before it went belly-up. I was able to get a replacement drive installed without any interruption to our business. Like the others mentioned, though, data recovery can be very expensive, so you'd have to weigh the cost/benefit ratio.

aka eraser
09-02-2004, 12:05 AM
Thanks for the sympathy and suggestions folks. It helps. Especially the pity. :)

I did investigate the cost of data-recovery specialists and it was way too prohibitive for me.

I got the new drive, have re-set up my email accounts and am beginning to s-l-o-w-l-y put the pieces back together. It's kind of like having a brand-new library but all the shelves are empty.

Am working on the one-step-at-a-time approach so it doesn't get too overwhelming.

Thanks again. :D

09-02-2004, 06:28 AM
Hey Frank.

I have a whole bunch of useless files I'd be happy to email to you so that your bookshelves won't look so empty . . .


09-02-2004, 06:54 AM
I'll share the spam email I've received this week. ;)

aka eraser
09-02-2004, 08:11 AM
Gee, you guys are the best!

<eraser dabs a tear, accidentally kicks Tom and Dave in the butt as he heads for another whiskey>


09-02-2004, 08:21 AM
Slide pulls back with a distinctive metal clink. A very loud .50 cal metal clink. Waits for apology before accidentally releasing hammer. ;)

09-02-2004, 03:57 PM
There is a word that I say when I am feeling stressed.

You can say it alone or with others.



Say it like five times in a row. You will feel better.

Or work it into a sentence. "I just jogged ten miles. I hoobastank." or "Check out the hoobastank on her rear. It's very hoobastanky." or "Put your right foot in, put your right foot out, put your right foot in and hoobastank. You hooba hooba hoobastank until you hooba hooba stank. That's what it's all about."

09-03-2004, 01:01 AM

I'm inviting you to my next party. :party


09-03-2004, 04:29 AM
Rotten luck, Frank. My commiserations.


09-06-2004, 08:37 PM
WOW.... here I thought I was crabby!

If I get drunk again and start surfing I'll bring my bitching to this board.<img border=0 src="http://www.absolutewrite.com/images/EmoteHeadbang.gif" />

09-08-2004, 02:03 AM
I just now found this thread and have been looking for a place to vent. So here goes:

For two weeks I had my 3 and 4 year old nieces staying with me. Kind of a protective thing, because one had been abused by her grandfather. Because I had so many things going on at the time, my mother also came to stay to "help" me. Dear old mom may be on the verge of Alzheimer's. So you can only imagine that instead of two to babysit I now had three.

My son does a home-school/private school program so all of his lesson plans are done by (you guessed it) ME. He works part time and goes to school part time and does homeschooling so I do a fair share of carting him around. Have a kennel and we have three litters of brand new cocker spaniel puppies (anybody interested), totaling sixteen puppies. Have two pups that are about three months old in the house at the current time because we are waiting for the new kennel to have a place to put them. Of course they absolutely refuse to be house broken for me. Which has to be done before they go into the kennel anyway. Have my regular house dog (all 60 pounds) running around the house being jealous all the time.

Dr. put me on a new med for my diabetes, and every time I turn around my sugar bottoms out and I am sick and weak.

Mom being as helpful as possible, went out on my porch a week ago and her hip broke. She did not fall and break it, she did not twist it or anything. Was just standing there and it broke. Of course yours truly is the power of attorney and I have had to go and pack up her apartment, because she can no longer live alone. And I have had scores of papers and bills to go through because of the Alzheimer's thing (did not realize how bad until I lived with her for two weeks).

I am in the middle of revising my first mss and apparently my brain is on vacation because I make the dumbest mistakes. My phone rings off the hook because I have four bros and sisters that think they have to give me their opinion or else want to know what all I am doing but none of which offers to help with all the dirty work.

I am petitioning Washington to add four more hours to the day and three more days to the week, just so I can get everything done, anybody else with me?


Okay I feel better now. Back to work.


aka eraser
09-08-2004, 02:46 AM
Ouch Tammy. You make a crashed hard drive seem like a blessing.


One short-short story I wrote (that also evaporated, now that I think of it) involved a person detailing his list of life's problems to God, explaining that his plate was just too darn full and asking for help to lighten his load.

God said: "Sure. Here's a bigger plate."


You'll get through this Tammy. Don't wait for those bros and sis' to offer help. Ask them. Heck, demand it. Hopefully they'll come through for you.


09-08-2004, 03:06 AM
Thanks Frank, I know I can always count on you to be understanding.



09-08-2004, 06:46 AM
And remember, you have all those four-legged dishwashers running around to help you. Just don't tell anyone your secret. ;)

09-08-2004, 08:30 AM
Oh, Dave.

:hug Tammy,

Keep your stick on the ice.

And we'll be here if you need to vent some more.

09-09-2004, 03:03 AM
Tammy, I hear ya! (I've got a horde myself and somedays Calgon just doesn't cut it...)

So, from one mom/wife/daugher/housekeeper/gopher/misc. titles I forgot to another, here's a super-industrial :hug

(ps. don't forget to breathe every once in a while.)

09-09-2004, 04:48 AM
Thanks everyone. I think I am just calling it quits tonight. I am going to bed with a good book and locking my door. I am letting the answering machine get the phone and for a little while I will be on the planet Mars. (Reading the book "Red Mars")

After that I am taking two sleeping pills and sleeping till noon tomorrow.:grin

I have already done my duties for the day. I have been at it since early this morning. I am not even going to work on my mss tonight. This is one evening I am going on strike, so I can get back on the horse tomorrow.|I So much to do....:(


09-09-2004, 07:48 AM
Take care of yourself, Tammy. Locking the door and reading a good book make a great start to that.

09-11-2004, 04:40 AM
Well, here is the situation, now. The nieces are back with their mom, who is no longer living with her parents. Their grandpa has been turned into children's services. So they are safe and sound.

Mom has had surgery and is doing rehab exercises and will be going to a nursing home until recovered. We have emptied her apartment, paid up her bills, and got her squared away.

I no longer have 16 new puppies, the number is now 20. I still have two young ones and my big dog in the house but hubby was kind enough to build a gate so they can be locked into the laundry room now and then for peace and quiet.

I am able to start concentrating on my writing again.:clap :jump :snoopy

I am still trying to read that book "Red Mars" and believe me when I say NOW I understand about having too much narrative (TELL) and not enough excitement (SHOW). I may need to work on it but OMG at least I did not write an over 500 pg book like that.:head :head I am never going to finish that stupid book...

Well, folks that's about it. Thanks so much for all the support and friendship.:kiss :hug


“Today is the best day. Yesterday is gone forever. Tomorrow will never arrive.” ~ David Wolfe

09-11-2004, 07:17 AM

I'm really glad to hear that your mom and nieces are doing better now.

I'll keep praying... :hug

09-11-2004, 09:44 AM


“Today is the best day. Yesterday is gone forever. Tomorrow will never arrive.” ~ David Wolfe

Chaoc Kazdul
09-13-2004, 09:05 AM
ARRRGHHH [EDITED as par request]
(I can scream here, right?)

09-13-2004, 09:12 PM
(I can scream here, right?)

Yep. As loud as you want, chaoc. And if you tell us what the problem is, we'll even scream with you... :b

Anyhow, this always helps... :hug

09-13-2004, 09:15 PM

Now that I've read the other thread, I know what you're screaming about. Double hugs, buddy.

I hate it when that happens. (I now open a second window to view the thread while I'm replying, instead of scrolling back.)

09-14-2004, 06:37 AM
I hate waiting for hurricanes. It is so darned nerve-wrecking!

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09-14-2004, 04:45 PM
Elonna, Do you mind if I wreck my nerves along with you???

:eek EEEKKK!!!! :eek

I woke at 4 a.m. to watch the weather. I'm 30 miles north of Morgan City! We live in a mobile home... I think I'm workin' up an ulcer. :(

Signed, Nervously Nibbling Nails

09-14-2004, 06:21 PM
please do WordSoup, didn't know you were so close to me. I think we are leaving this afternoon. Please stay safe.

aka eraser
09-14-2004, 10:56 PM
Y'all stay safe! That's an order. :teeth

09-14-2004, 11:20 PM
Elonna, (and anyone else in Mother Nature's path) take care also !
:hug :clover

09-14-2004, 11:48 PM
I will be praying for all of you. I hope your homes and everything will be safe.:hug :hug


“Today is the best day. Yesterday is gone forever. Tomorrow will never arrive.” ~ David Wolfe

09-16-2004, 05:35 AM
We made it to Cincinnati. Though rains from Ivan are supposed to come this way Saturday, is so supposed to be gone by Sat afternoon.

09-16-2004, 05:40 AM
Don't look now, but there's a glacier coming from the other direction. ;)

09-16-2004, 05:56 AM
Dang, I knew I should have gone to Denver ;)

Chaoc Kazdul
09-16-2004, 06:09 AM
The "worst" weather we've ever had to deal with was a couple feet of snow.

So my neighbours seem to think... Personally, I love the stuff.

aka eraser
09-16-2004, 09:42 AM
Blizzards are yawn-material here too. Ice storms are worse. Hurricanes are exceedlingly rare (in southern Ontario) but I have vague recollections of Hurricane Hazel which hit in 1955 (I think) and left many people dead.

I recall the wind moaning but I was safe inside my great-grandmother's cardigan sweater.

She did up the buttons around me. :)

Chaoc Kazdul
09-17-2004, 04:12 AM
Ahhh another southern ontarian; that may explain weather similarities.

For the most part, the weather is pretty boring. It can be a bit more exciting if you happen to live along side one of the lakes.

09-18-2004, 12:07 AM
Blizzards are yawn-material here too.

Unless you live in Toronto. They need the army to handle more than a foot or so of snow... :grin

09-18-2004, 12:50 AM
They need the army to handle more than a foot or so of snow
Wimps. Half the folks out here in the Rockies pass the snowplows while driving to work. A foot deep snowfall is the only thing that slows us down to the speed limit.

Granted, half of us have SUV's you could drive a skidoo under.... :grin

Chaoc Kazdul
09-18-2004, 03:08 AM
Yeah that was a highly critized move when they called in the army.

The snow plow often misses our road, so we usually get it with the bobcat.

09-19-2004, 03:25 AM
They usually shut down the entire state of Alabama if there's even the possibility of an inch or two of snow. :smack

09-19-2004, 03:27 AM
"I recall the wind moaning but I was safe inside my great-grandmother's cardigan sweater.

She did up the buttons around me."

Frank, that would make a wonderful story. Ever written it up?

09-19-2004, 03:38 AM
I recall the wind moaning but I was safe inside my great-grandmother's cardigan sweater.

She did up the buttons around me.
That is a nice image, Frank.

PS -- how many of us have seen someone like this guy (http://www.safetycenter.navy.mil/photo/archive/photo108p.htm) driving around?

09-19-2004, 03:49 AM
I would NOT want to be driving behind him!


aka eraser
09-19-2004, 05:50 AM
I've written bits and pieces of things that might eventually be knit into a memoir; not that specific one though...til now. ;)

<eraser makes a note>

09-20-2004, 06:59 AM
That must be the same guy who backed into my friend's van one day at the Y.

We were loading our toddlers into the van after swim lessons, and this guy backs up into us. Not content with hitting us once (I wonder if he wondered what was blocking his way?) he went forward a bit, then backed up again.

Needless to say, by the time the cops arrived, his back window was nice and clear.

I wonder if he was charged with destroying evidence?


09-24-2004, 11:36 AM
And what a lovely title that would be. :)

aka eraser
09-24-2004, 09:51 PM
<eraser makes another note>

Thanks Anne! :thumbs

09-25-2004, 06:05 AM
I don't really need to scream right now, but after 8 hours, I'm still a bit shook up...

At noon today, I was coming home from the grocery store. Stopped at a red light -- I was the third car in line. The car at the front of the line stopped, signalled a right turn, then turned (this is allowed in Ontario) -- right into a cyclist (who wasn't wearing a helmet and who was eating a piece of pizza as he was cycling). I heard the car hit the bike, I watched the boy tumble up onto the hood of the car.

He wasn't actually hurt, but if he'd ended up on the pavement instead of the car, if the car had been going a little faster...

On second thought:


Please, please, please drive carefully folks!

09-25-2004, 08:21 PM
Yikes, Ruth!! Oh, the possibilities of what could have happened give me cold chills. And I'm sure witnessing it did shake you up, probably for hours!! Good grief...

09-25-2004, 08:34 PM
:hug Ruth