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People text people via cell phone all the time. So how come "texted" looks so wrong? Can I use that in my novel, or should I draw out the description of using the phone's text message function? The scene before mentions a text message the MC has received, so it's not like the reader won't know what it means. It just looks wrong.
(The novel is in past tense, so no suggesting I switch the sentence to present tense so the verb can sound better :tongue )
blacbird
02-18-2007, 08:44 AM
Because it's a "verbation" of a noun. It is wrong. But try to stop it.
caw
Carmy
02-18-2007, 09:03 AM
Fax is also a noun but we accept faxed as a legitimate word.
blacbird
02-18-2007, 10:40 AM
Fax is also a noun but we accept faxed as a legitimate word.
Not me. For that matter, I don't even accept "fax" as a legitimate word.
caw
Adagio
02-18-2007, 10:47 AM
Not me. For that matter, I don't even accept "fax" as a legitimate word.
caw
Oh, heavens, now what should I do? I used "faxed" in my WIP. What's the alternative? It's a fax machine. Doing what?
BottomlessCup
02-18-2007, 10:52 AM
Enallage is a legitimate tool of expression and communication.
Language evolves.
That goes double when you're talking about new technologies and ideas, like say, texting.
We need a word for the concept. "Texting" is a good one.
Done.
blacbird
02-18-2007, 11:55 AM
We need a word for the concept. "Texting" is a good one.
"Writing" is another one.
caw
Mud Dauber
02-18-2007, 05:12 PM
I've seen "text messaged" as past tense used in print and that looks fine to me.:Shrug:
BottomlessCup
02-18-2007, 06:57 PM
"Writing" is another one.
caw
I disagree.
With that usage, 'writing' would be too imprecise. The word already has multiple meanings and, IMO, sending a brief text message is not one of them.
It's unreasonable to expect a language created hundreds of years ago to satisfy the needs of modern day, without changes and additions. Expecting a 'legitimate word' to describe a concept that's only a few years old is silly.
New thing = new word.
Why is that 'wrong'?
benbradley
02-18-2007, 07:37 PM
I disagree.
With that usage, 'writing' would be too imprecise. The word already has multiple meanings and, IMO, sending a brief text message is not one of them.
It's unreasonable to expect a language created hundreds of years ago to satisfy the needs of modern day, without changes and additions. Expecting a 'legitimate word' to describe a concept that's only a few years old is silly.
New thing = new word.
Why is that 'wrong'?
A new word for a new thing (laser was new when I was much younger) is fine, and so is loading an old word with a new meaning (though I admit using "Writing" for sending a text message may not be a good example). Both happen all the time.
Here's an interesting 'usage note' on a historically contentious word:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/finalize
I recall Stunk&White arguing against such "verbalizing" of nouns, perhaps even mentioning the word finalize, and I'll stick to what they wrote generally, but not when the overwhelming tide goes the other direction. As that country song says, time marches on.
Mud Dauber
02-18-2007, 08:04 PM
I recall Stunk&White arguing against such "verbalizing" of nouns, perhaps even mentioning the word finalize, and I'll stick to what they wrote generally, but not when the overwhelming tide goes the other direction. As that country song says, time marches on.
Like "Let's go garage-saling"? :D
I'm a big fan of "verbalizing" nouns, even those that aren't used as nouns in common speech (like "text" & "fax" are), in my characters' speech (probably Joss Whedon's fault), and since I've been writing in first person, I've been guilty of it in the narrative too, when my MC would have done so. But since this was a word that people in the real world use as a verb, I just can't understand why it looks so wrong in the past tense, but fine as "text" or even "texting."
"Text messaged" is an interesting suggestion, & looks better to me, though I would not have expected that.
maestrowork
02-18-2007, 11:34 PM
I'd use "text messaged" or "messaged." But I agree that English evolves. We faxed, and now we text. But please, don't say SMS'ed. SMS is a noun, not a verb.
LOL, I don't even know what SMS is.
Jamesaritchie
02-19-2007, 01:32 AM
I disagree.
With that usage, 'writing' would be too imprecise. The word already has multiple meanings and, IMO, sending a brief text message is not one of them.
It's unreasonable to expect a language created hundreds of years ago to satisfy the needs of modern day, without changes and additions. Expecting a 'legitimate word' to describe a concept that's only a few years old is silly.
New thing = new word.
Why is that 'wrong'?
I don;t think there's anything wrong with a new word for a new thing, but it is a slippery slope. "Texted" I'd let pass, simply because it is so common that like it or not, it's probably with us to stay, and because realism demands you use the same language the real world uses.
But for the most part, verbalization of nouns is the mark of the semi-literate, and some truly horrible ones have come along over the years. Fortunately, most have vanished as swiftly as they came. It's nearly always bad writing, poor use of language, and does horrible things to the language.
Sometimes, however, you just have to go with what works at the time, what's in common usage at the time. Sadly, "texted" is one of these times.
Chumplet
02-19-2007, 02:27 AM
Using 'messaged' or 'messaging' would be doing the same thing that was done with 'texted'. Its a verbalized noun. I say, go with the flow. Use it! If the editor doesn't like it, let him or her think of another word. I don't think it's a deal breaker, anyway.
BTW, I'm using 'videographer' in my MS. Not a real word. I think it was invented by a local television station when they made video camera operators double as on-air commentators.
scarletpeaches
02-19-2007, 02:30 AM
I'd use "text messaged" or "messaged." But I agree that English evolves. We faxed, and now we text. But please, don't say SMS'ed. SMS is a noun, not a verb.
Text used to be a noun, too.
maestrowork
02-19-2007, 05:04 AM
Using 'messaged' or 'messaging' would be doing the same thing that was done with 'texted'.
According to the dictionaries, "message" is also a verb.
It seems only The American Heritage dictionary lists "text" as a verb in the explicit context of "sending a text message."
Aeryn
02-19-2007, 06:17 AM
IMHO, 'texting' is just warming up as a new usage - and will be thoroughly accepted and comfortable to the eye in a few years time. It jars my eye, though I use it myself in conversation, email, and errr...in texts. I think that 'text messaged' is worse, being longer and thuddier. ;)
beezle
02-19-2007, 06:23 AM
I don't have a problem with it. A new word for a new medium. It's what I writed heaps of the time.
A.M. Wildman
02-19-2007, 06:28 AM
LOL, I don't even know what SMS is.
SMS is cell carrier terminology for what you call text messaging.
It stands for Short Message Service.
blacbird
02-19-2007, 10:00 AM
I like the wedge marks on clay tablets, myself.
caw
scarletpeaches
02-19-2007, 10:02 AM
I'm such a mobile phone whore.
I have textual intercourse with anyone who contacts me.
beezle
02-19-2007, 10:06 AM
Kinky.
Sandi LeFaucheur
02-19-2007, 02:24 PM
BTW, I'm using 'videographer' in my MS. Not a real word. I think it was invented by a local television station when they made video camera operators double as on-air commentators.
This is the entry from Ask Oxford:
videography: noun the process or art of making video films. — DERIVATIVES videographer noun.
Penguin Queen
02-19-2007, 06:41 PM
SMS is cell carrier terminology for what you call text messaging.
It stands for Short Message Service.
This has evolved into a German verb now: SMS --> simsen.
Ich simse
Du simst
Er/sie/es simst
Wir simsen
Ihr simst
Sie simsen.
Not sure whether it's made any dictionary yet, but ppl use it. :tongue
Carmy
02-19-2007, 09:54 PM
Language evolves.
I think this says it all -- write the way people speak, at least in fiction. If you're writing your Master's thesis then it won't work.
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