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Robert Toy
11-12-2006, 09:05 AM
Landmark case!

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,228736,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,228736,00.html)


*sigh*
dclary
11-12-2006, 09:55 AM
Billy, remember this Judge's name. He's on my hotlist for Supreme Court nominees when we hit Pennsylvania Avenue.
Jongfan
11-12-2006, 09:57 AM
What a great use of the tax dollar !
Opty
11-12-2006, 10:05 AM
Yeah, but what's a Gordita qualify as?
Bartholomew
11-12-2006, 10:06 AM
What a great use of the tax dollar !

Settling disputes? How is this a waste?

Furthermore, the Superior Judge actually did the right thing.

I'd say it was a tax dollar wisely entrusted--the Superior Judge was clearly competant in telling Panera to shove it.

The fact that the dispute had to go to a Superior Judge, on the other hand, is pathetic.
Bartholomew
11-12-2006, 10:07 AM
Yeah, but what's a Gordita qualify as?

Gordita...? A small, chubby woman?
dclary
11-12-2006, 10:47 AM
The judge's ruling was "2 pieces of bread" = sandwich and "1 piece of tortilla" <> sandwich, Sporky.

Now, given that my making this exact same argument about marriage, one would imagine that Panera would call this anti-burrito tortillaphobic stereotyping, and then there'd be lawsuits and attempts to bring a referendum on 1 tortilla equalling a sandwich and then state governments would try to pass constitutional amendments declaring "A sandwich = 2 pieces of bread."


But as it is, a gordita, being just a single piece of fried pita bread, is still going to qualify as not-a-sandwich.

What concerns me more is the middle ground hybrid of wraps... under this ruling they are no longer sandwiches, and have lost their legal right to sandwich status.
Bartholomew
11-12-2006, 10:55 AM
What concerns me more is the middle ground hybrid of wraps... under this ruling they are no longer sandwiches, and have lost their legal right to sandwich status.

Armed Rebellion! Now!

FOR THE ONE-SLICE SANDWICHES!

INTO THE FRAY!!!
MacAllister
11-12-2006, 10:59 AM
Ah, but Deek--what if you're still using two slices of bread, but one slice of bread is rye instead of white? It's still a sandwich, then, right?
dclary
11-12-2006, 11:05 AM
Yes. There are no laws in the book about inter-grainal sandwiches.
dclary
11-12-2006, 11:06 AM
In fact, one of my best friend's sourdough has a bad case of orowheat fever.
Bartholomew
11-12-2006, 11:17 AM
Ah, but Deek--what if you're still using two slices of bread, but the bread is rye instead of white? It's still a sandwich, then, right?

No. Wheat and White bread should never mingle. And the marriage of these should be illegal.

Sandwich segregation! Forever!
Unique
11-12-2006, 04:33 PM
Settling disputes? How is this a waste?

Furthermore, the Superior Judge actually did the right thing.

I'd say it was a tax dollar wisely entrusted--the Superior Judge was clearly competant in telling Panera to shove it.

The fact that the dispute had to go to a Superior Judge, on the other hand, is pathetic.

My brain is too tired to be original so may I borrow yours, Bart?

The fact that Panera wanted to limit consumer choices and was so greedy as to want to do it lost them considerable respect in my opinion.

Personally, I never thought of them as a sandwich shop. I thought they were a bread shop that happened to create sandwiches to go with their coffee.

Someone tell me they don't make their own bread so I can lose all my respect for them.
Robert Toy
11-12-2006, 04:51 PM
My brain is too tired to be original so may I borrow yours, Bart?

The fact that Panera wanted to limit consumer choices and was so greedy as to want to do it lost them considerable respect in my opinion.

Personally, I never thought of them as a sandwich shop. I thought they were a bread shop that happened to create sandwiches to go with their coffee.

Someone tell me they don't make their own bread so I can lose all my respect for them.
Sorry, they do bake their own bread L - Actually the dough is made in 17 different plants and distributed to the individual outlets.

More questions:

Does this ruling mean that Subway Sandwiches are not really sandwiches?

What will be the new name for California Pita Sandwiches?

Can a sandwich shop use Monk’s bread or Nun’s Buns in a public space like a mall?
Christine N.
11-12-2006, 04:58 PM
What about the open-faced sandwich? What does this mean for him?
TheGaffer
11-12-2006, 05:45 PM
Does this ruling mean that Subway Sandwiches are not really sandwiches?

That part depends on whether there are "edible" clauses in the definition of sandwich. If a sandwich does not have to meet any particular standards of whether it is worth eating, then yes, what Subway serves are indeed "sandwiches," insomuch as they're two slices of bread (or a roll sliced in half, that is) with fillings.
Unique
11-12-2006, 06:06 PM
That's funny, Gaffer.

What I find most striking is that I've had subs in Subway that were most excellent and I've also had them where they were barely adeqate. You must live close to the 'barely' adequate model.
greglondon
11-12-2006, 06:24 PM
Panera Bread is the moron here.
The judge just had to explain to the moron that it is a moron.
robeiae
11-12-2006, 10:14 PM
What happens next year when the Mexican place decides to go after some new business by offering pre-made Cuban sandwiches?
Robert Toy
11-12-2006, 10:17 PM
What happens next year when the Mexican place decides to go after some new business by offering pre-made Cuban sandwiches?
Not a problem, by next year we will be friends with Cuba and lift the restrictions on pre-made sandwiches.
DeborahM
11-12-2006, 10:25 PM
Gordita...? A small, chubby woman?

Culinary, Bart. Think culinary!
Robert Toy
11-12-2006, 10:30 PM
A Gordita could also be a hard headed woman:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/11/11/shot.in.head.ap/index.html
Bartholomew
11-12-2006, 10:46 PM
Culinary, Bart. Think culinary!

We're going to eat her!? That's Barbaric!

...

Oh, you mean... oh! <BLUSH>

Wrong... er... wrong forum.
DeborahM
11-12-2006, 10:49 PM
We're going to eat her!? That's Barbaric!

...

Oh, you mean... oh! <BLUSH>

Wrong... er... wrong forum.

There you go again, Bart! Think food! :roll:
Bartholomew
11-12-2006, 11:54 PM
There you go again, Bart! Think food! :roll:

I know exactly where your perverted train of thought as stopped.

This should be moved to the erotic SYW forum so that I can deviate further.
MattW
11-13-2006, 03:35 PM
I'm George W Bush and I approve this message: Tacos Rule!




BYW- How do I get to be a culinary historian?
C.bronco
11-13-2006, 11:16 PM
What about the open-faced sandwich? What does this mean for him?

That would be ironic if an open-faced sandwich were ruled to be a non-sandwich item! I believe that open-faced sandwich is included in the sandwich family because it has the potential to be a "closed-faced" sandwich; it is simply incomplete.
WDS
11-14-2006, 05:48 AM
I love sandwiches! :D That is all.
Dawno
11-14-2006, 06:10 AM
Did anyone else know that there was a job as a (see bold - I gave the whole quote for context) ""I know of no chef or culinary historian who would call a burrito a sandwich. Indeed, the notion would be absurd to any credible chef or culinary historian."

Wraps are a big thing here - they're basically sandwiches but put in a low carb wrap (like a tortilla but made differently - lavosh I think they call it) Now those are definitely competing with sandwiches...that would have been a more interesting case.

And commercial disputes of this nature are about sums of money that would mean it would go to a Superior Court judge rather than a muni judge so I don't think it was something that got appealed to him, rather that it was the proper jurisdiction in the first place.