Quick! What is Commercial Fiction?

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Think non-literary. Maybe Da Vinci Code, John Grisham novels, Clive Cussler, etc. It is usually something fast-paced, easy to read, and something you might like to read on a plane. Bottom line: lots of people will read it and make you lots of money :)
 

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It's young adult Fantasy.

Why shouldn't I send them out like a mad man? Why not twenty instead of ten?

I don't want to screw this up.
 
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Jack_Roberts said:
It's young adult Fantasy.

Why shouldn't I send them out like a mad man? Why not twenty instead of ten?

I don't want to screw this up.

Because there are only a handful of really good agents for any type of novel, and you're using them all up at once, and probably with teh same basic query letter and synopsis. If it doesn't work, you're screwed.

The real question is why not one instead of ten? Find the right agent, target your query at her, and if she says no, then hope she tells you why. If she does, you can then make any changes you agree with in the query/synopsis, and in the manuscript, before very carefully targeting, researching, and sending a tailor-made query/synopsis to the next agent.

Sending out shotgun queries is a good way of collecting rejections in record time, but it's a poor way of finding a good agent.
 

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Young Adult Fantasy is not usually commercial fiction. Harry Potter is the exception not the rule and even then when it was first marketed it was targeted to young adult/children. My suggestion is to go to the bookstore and see where your novel fits in and then check to see which agent handled those types of books. Jamesaritchie is right on...it is not useful to query without thought.
JMHO
 

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Commercial

Read the various bestseller lists. That's where you find commercial fiction. If an agent or editor looks at your manuscript and sees $$$$$ instead of words, that's commercial fiction.
 

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Believe me. Only query a few at a time. It didn't listen to this advice at first, and I eliminated many of my possibilities. Plus, I lost track of some of my queries. Uh oh. For my next book, I am going to rank agents on a list and send out five queries. For each reject, I'll send out another. I'll also keep track of when I sent, if I got a response, etc. on the list.
 

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ORION said:
My suggestion is to go to the bookstore and see where your novel fits in and then check to see which agent handled those types of books.
JMHO

Always check the Acknowledgements to see if the author thanks his agent. Sometimes he does. Send your query to THAT agent, telling him how much you enjoyed the works by the author he represents, and how your book is similar (though, not a carbon copy).

If that doesn't work, google the author's name and "agent" to see if it's mentioned somewhere on the web. Sometimes it is.

But shotgunning the same query letter to hundreds of agents at a time can only result in hundreds of rejections that all read the same.

allen
 

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the line is blurred once the book becomes a best seller and many literary fiction crossed over and suddenly they are commcial becasue they are on the new york times list, so maybe we should look at intention since this is the agent phase when they ask to see commercial fiction - meaning the book is written specifically to be sold for mass market and not just to win literary awards - john grisham writes commercial but john updike writes literary but both are on best seller lists
 

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I see a parallel with Hollywood. There are the serious movies such as Lost in Translation and The Hours which probably won't bring in the crowds, but might win an Oscar. They are produced for reasons of prestige more than money; and if they do get that Oscar, they'll bring in the money too.

In spite of this, I know of many books that have failed to find publishers because they were described as 'falling between two stools'.

Literary fiction is the kind of stuff that might win a Pulityer or a Booker or a Whitbread. And then they become bestsellers.

That's me. My last book fell between two stools. My former publisher turned it down becuse it wasn't commercial enough, a reputable literary publisher turned it down and said I should look for a "more commercial" publisher. What's a girl to do?
With my next book I went all out for commercial.
 

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Philip64 said:
This is quite true. I would only add that there are a growing number of so-called 'cross-over' titles that don't fall neatly into either the old 'literary fiction'/'commercial fiction' pigeon-holes. Everyone agrees that Tom Clancy and Danielle Steele write commercial fiction, and that John Updike and Saul Bellow write literary fiction; but between those clear poles there is a vast swathe of territory that could be seen as either literary or commercial, depending on your criteria. Of course, the intelligent answer is not to pigeonhole books at all, which, I'm glad to say, bookshops increasingly do not. These days you will often find 'chic lit' nestling on a table next to the latest offering from Philip Roth. And why not? A glance at page 1 of either title will make the difference pretty clear.

In my personal experience a novel is described as 'literary' by publishers who want to buy it (i.e. cheap, because, being literary, it cannot expect a big audience); and subsequently 'commercial' when those same publishers are trying to sell the book to retailers (i.e. it is clearly going to have mass appeal so they should stock it in large numbers).

In spite of this, I know of many books that have failed to find publishers because they were described as 'falling between two stools'. This drives authors wild, because they know that there is a big market out there for books that combine pageturning qualities with substance (political, philosophical, historical, journalistic whatever). But in reality, while the 'two stools' argument is palpable bunk, I have come to the conclusion that it is often wheeled out as a more polite way of saying 'this book is not badly written, but it did not engage me on any level.'

Bookstores have a lot of power, but there's no way on earth not to categorize and pigeonhole books, and even if someone found a way, I doubt very much many people would like it nearly as much as they think they would.

Bookstores have always placed widely divergent books on the same table, simply because a widely divergent readership walks by that table, and you want to hook as many as possible.

The simple truth is that the majority of readers want books categorized, labelled, and pigeonholed. Ths is why publishers and bookstores do so. It makes finding what they want a heck of a lot easier for most readers.

"Literary" is a real thing, not just somethng publishers want to buy cheaply.

Reading teh first coule of pages may tell you how well the book is written, but it doesn't tell you anything at all about whether it's the kind of book you enjoy most.

Authors know a lot of things about what will sell and what won't. Unfortunately, most of what they know isn't true.
 

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Another question to ask yourself in determining if your text is commercial is "who's the target reader?" If your target readership is a smaller group, you may be less commercial and more straight genre or straight literary. This is not to say that genre and/or lit can't be commercial, but considering when your potential house is looking at it and ask "what kind of readership can they anticipate?"

Another marker is looking at what's selling. Look at Publisher's Marketplace and scan the last 6-12 months of deals. What's selling? To whom? What sort of advances? Which agents are selling what you're writing? This sort of research helps narrow in what you need for selecting agents, houses, and/or where you fit in the marketplace.

NOTE: You can do a one month membership to PM for abt $20. You can do your research, then cancel before the next billing cycle if money is an issue. I found it invaluable when composing my query letter & list.

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Oh, & FWIW, I sent my queries out in staggered batches of 10. I did my first round of 10, waited 3 weeks and did a second batch. The agent I chose to sign with was in the first batch, but I ended up with an offer out of batch 2 at the same time. Start a file wherein you keep detailed records of who has it, what date, their RT, etc. When you're working with that large of a group, it's essential to keep an eye on all the details.
 
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